NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

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Anonymous wrote:I go back and forth wondering if the Democrats should frame it as abortion access or healthcare.
On the one hand, I think we need to destigmatize the word abortion because many miscarriages require an abortion to finalize the passing of the tissue. And it should not be something that we penalizing and burning people at the stake for. The other hand, it is 100% medical Care and a lot of people don't view it as that. I know my relatives didn't until all of this started coming out. So at least one good thing is I believe at least in my circles people are much more informed and understand how important access to medical Care during pregnancy is. Whether that be to help carry the pregnancy to term or to make a different decision. Ultimately, it should not be in the lawmakers and even my Republican family believes that.

It is medical care, absolutely. Lots of families who didn't understand this before are finding out the hard way in red states.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

Great idea. How are you going to enforce this position as policy?

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

Great idea. How are you going to enforce this position as policy?

Republicans want to police sex. Shocker.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.

I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.

Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.

Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.

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^ that was a +1

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.

I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.

Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.

Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.

That's the pro-choice position, in a nutshell.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

+1 A woman who knows she will experience full-blown postpartum depression and go berserk, will lose her job and have her children removed from her care will risk those serious consequences for unprotected sex?

Having sex is worth having a mental breakdown, losing your job and kids?

Or the woman could use a birth control method that is 99+% effective? Or her partner could have a vasectomy to ensure there is no pregnancy? Or both options? vasectomy and a 99+% birth control method? If a woman knows she has those risks to her health and livelihood and her existing children, why would she not do everything to prevent a catastrophic pregnancy? Women are fertile for decades. A woman will have how many pregnancies over the course of many years if she doesn’t use a contraceptive?

It’s not realistic to have those kinds of negative outcomes, known outcomes, and for a woman to not responsibly prevent pregnancy. Is the woman’s sexual partner aware she has those risk factors associated with another pregnancy and refuses to help her prevent pregnancy?

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

Great idea. How are you going to enforce this position as policy?

I’m not. I’m pro choice. I’m just saying that having an elective abortion because you accidentally got pregnant is disgusting. It would be nice if it wasn’t available as a back up to failed birth control. Or you “forgot” the condom altogether. Or were too tired and didn’t think you actually get pregnant this time. I find it morally repugnant.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

Great idea. How are you going to enforce this position as policy?

Republicans want to police sex. Shocker.

Any thinking individual would not want a woman to lose her job and children for sex when it’s possible to prevent pregnancy.

If the woman doesn’t care about her own existing children, mental health, and job, we as a society should do what? Ignore her impending catastrophic mental health crisis and put her kids in foster care?

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.

I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.

Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.

Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.

Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.

WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.

If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

There you go again with your “alternative sex” obsession again.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.

Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.

Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.

No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.

I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.

DP. And clearly you have no empathy for women in controlling relationships. Because, after all, they just need to refuse “PIV” sex and all will be well, right? Absolutely no repercussions to that decision, ever.

I know women whose husbands and significant others have sabotaged their birth control. I know 2 women who got pregnant after their husbands had vasectomies. But, all women need to do is just refuse to have PIV sex, and it’ll all go over just fine and dandy with their partners. What a joke.