Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is like something from The Onion:

Texas law enforcement official defends police inaction: 'They could've been shot'

https://www.rawstory.com/uvalde-2657403341/

Every new thing that is coming out about the police response is worse than what we knew before.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

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We need serious gun control. Including banning AR-15s.

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Republicans are insane. “Make schools into prisons, teachers into wardens, sacrifice children on the altar of gun lust but don’t come for our assault rifles” is not the statement of a serious people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

We need serious gun control. Including banning AR-15s.

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Republicans are insane. “Make schools into prisons, teachers into wardens, sacrifice children on the altar of gun lust but don’t come for our assault rifles” is not the statement of a serious people.

It is the statement of an industry that just wants to make a lot of money selling guns. Tobacco was kicked to the curb and assault weapons can be as well.

[Anonymous]

I don't know why this comment was deleted, but here's the article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/authorities-say-security-video-shows-the-back-door-of-texas-school-was-propped-open-by-a-teacher-just-before-the-gunman-attacked-the-school/ar-AAXNZqp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is like something from The Onion:

Texas law enforcement official defends police inaction: 'They could've been shot'

https://www.rawstory.com/uvalde-2657403341/

Every new thing that is coming out about the police response is worse than what we knew before.

They just released the 911 call transcripts. Children were still alive and calling for an hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is like something from The Onion:

Texas law enforcement official defends police inaction: 'They could've been shot'

https://www.rawstory.com/uvalde-2657403341/

Every new thing that is coming out about the police response is worse than what we knew before.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

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As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand how the police thought they were going to get away with lying about what happened. Hubris? Incompetence? Shield of accountability?

There is video from inside the school, police body cam video, personal cell phone video from the crowd, public interviews of witnesses and students, recordings of 911 calls, official logs of local, state, and federal law enforcement. I mean, what in the world were they thinking?

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Anonymous wrote:How, if in Texas everyone is ok with just buying an assault rifle at a local sporting goods store, do police not have a supply of them to bring to such a situation? Don’t they have those armored vehicles we bought them?
And couldn’t they have just gone to the same sporting goods store and picked up the same gun and rounds of ammunition as they leisurely drove to the school?

I am sure the truth of what happened is even worse than what the police are sharing, though it strains me to imagine how that could be at this point.

They had the weaponry. The did not have the tactical equipment to protect themselves. They still should have gone in

Why do we have a militarized police force that is too scared or unprepared to actually protect people when they need it.

Between these gutsy bad-ass heroes (pictured above) and, get this, "a proper perimeter fence" locked doors and "signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage" and we're all set!

Oh, wait...

There were no locked doors, nor a proper perimeter fence aimed at deterrence. Nor signs. There was no equipment at the scene. And yes, their actions were a problem. I’m more concerned that the gunman had such easy access in this day and age. Was he known to law enforcement. He did pass a background check so that didn’t work.

Schools aren't built like prisons. In general, they don't have proper perimeter fences, since students walk in from the neighborhood. Some schools lock doors but not all - upper schools with open campuses cannot lock doors. Locally, in the DMV, nearly all elementary schools lock doors but nearly all also have trailers that are unsecured.

The solution is not to put up higher fences. Think outside of your box.

And armed shooters aren’t the only thing we need to protect against. Locked doors and a single entrance are not so great if there’s a fire.

Single entrances? Who said that? Doors can open from the inside and remain locked to those from the outside. Good LORD, how do you NOT know this?

Texas Senator Ted Cruz suggested only 1 door in schools with a guard at it.

That’ll be good for fire safety.

You could have only one door for an entrance and the rest open from inside only. But it’s a dumb idea because the gunman could easily shoot the guard or smash a window. The guns are the problem.

The GOP might support increased grants and funding for police to train for active shooters. They’ll say the police simply weren’t prepared enough and need more guns and federal funds. That’ll do it!

Any school with lots of windows and doors is difficult to fully secure. Kids can prop doors open to let people in, teachers open windows when A/C or heat aren’t working properly, etc. I mention both of those scenarios because I’ve seen those happen countless times. Even in schools with only one ‘entrance’ and all doors ‘locked’ all the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the police thought they were going to get away with lying about what happened. Hubris? Incompetence? Shield of accountability?

There is video from inside the school, police body cam video, personal cell phone video from the crowd, public interviews of witnesses and students, recordings of 911 calls, official logs of local, state, and federal law enforcement. I mean, what in the world were they thinking?

They were trying to protect themselves. The person that made the choice and prevented a response was the same person giving out the initial information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.

Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.

Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.

Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow

The answer is always more guns, isn’t it?! When do we have enough guns? You aren’t much better than the shooter. You enable people like him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids should not go to school in a prison. That’s completely f**ked up. Who are you monsters?!


Ban guns! It’s so easy to fix.

+1

As someone who taught in a school that was fashioned like a prison I 100% agree. That does something to a child’s psyche that I would not want children to experience. Stop putting all of our burdens on our most vulnerable population. Adults don’t seem to want to make change or sacrifice anything for children.

Make those changes, but they take time. But in the meantime? Save the children. The door, according to MSN who referenced video, was left propped open. Teacher went out, got his/her phone to call authorities after the shooter crashed his truck and shot at funeral home personnel, went back in and sadly didn't shut the door. Not his/her fault, just an unfortunate circumstance.

Just think if he didn’t have a gun, we wouldn’t be having this discussion and burying a bunch of children.

If the teacher had a weapon in his/her car, got that instead of just a cell phone, shut the door and stood on the inside, or if there wa s an armed resource officer inside, it could have been different too.

We can both play the wish it was game. But that won't change a thing tomorrow. Again, even if there was a massive ban and buyback program, that takes time. There are things that can be changed today to protect kids tomorrow

How do you feel about "proper perimeter fences" that are "intended to deter"? Big fan?