“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

They already take a lot of crap and disrespect from the conservative men in their lives. They will just add this to the list and rationalize away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

Maybe plan on having kids earlier?

IVF isn't just for older wannabe mothers...your ignorance and callousness are showing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

+1

Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.

The Court was already damaged.

It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

We feel as if you are being hysterical and fear mongering. Because, that is exactly what you are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

I am the pp who are responding to - I have had 3 kids and didn’t need ivf so I have no skin in the game and don’t really care. Republicans (especially women) this is what you voted for. Burn this sh$t down - go for gold. Ban birth control and ivf. See how well that works for you.
One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

Maybe plan on having kids earlier?

IVF isn't just for older wannabe mothers...your ignorance and callousness are showing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

Maybe plan on having kids earlier?

IVF isn't just for older wannabe mothers...your ignorance and callousness are showing

I am the pp who are responding to - I have had 3 kids and didn’t need ivf so I have no skin in the game and don’t really care. Republicans (especially women) this is what you voted for. Burn this sh$t down - go for gold. Ban birth control and ivf. See how well that works for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

+1

Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.

The Court was already damaged.

It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.

Perhaps Congress should do their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Wow, did you come up with that yourself? It’s privacy:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women need to rise up against this. Men are the root of so many problems in this country.

Given that recent polling data from Pew suggests almost as many men (69%) oppose overturning Roe as women (70%), I suggest doing a little research and knowing who your friends/allies are before making sweeping assumptions and doing any "rising up."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

We feel as if you are being hysterical and fear mongering. Because, that is exactly what you are doing.

Really?

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

+1

Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.

The Court was already damaged.

It’s partisan and impacts the lives of Americans more than Congress does.

So, if the Court had decided (or decides ultimately) to uphold Roe, would you still be saying that it's damaged? Are you only saying this because the Court may issue an opinion with which you disagree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

We feel as if you are being hysterical and fear mongering. Because, that is exactly what you are doing.

It’s painful to watch you (you the group, not you as an individual) not realize how this affects you until it hits you dead between your eyes (or your daughter’s).

Many of you will be shielded as you were pre-Roe, but some of you will suffer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

They already take a lot of crap and disrespect from the conservative men in their lives. They will just add this to the list and rationalize away.

Many are fine about the American hierarchy. At these they’re not Black.