“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Oh Lordy no wonder the GOP keeps winning if this is the level of critical thinking we are dealing with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

I’m accepting it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Excellent summary. Exactly correct.

+1

Many people are too emotionally charged over the draft opinion to comprehend what it actually means, and to comprehend the damage that was inflicted upon the court by the leak.

[Anonymous]

In her own way, RBG chose life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ITA. The leaker needs to be identified and disbarred. Not sure any actual laws were broken, but this cannot go unpunished.

Unauthorized disclosures are generally illegal, but even for classified info, the sentences are usually pretty light relative to the damage.

The court is self governing and doesn't have rules about this. I am sorry, if one justice can participate in a coup against the country and not hasve to recuse themselves from related cases, then I don't GAF about this.

See how shattering norms and rules works?

I find it difficult to believe SCOTUS has no rules to protect its deliberative process.

I have heard former SCOTUS clerks say they were warned on the first day of the job that leaking opinions would not be tolerated and would end in dismissal and disbarment. So, I do believe they have rules.
Add to that the fact that no opinion has ever been leaked before.

This person needs to be identified immediately and dealt with. This is unacceptable.

So you’re more concerned with the leak than the fact that SCOTUS doing away with right to privacy? Good stuff.

Yes, I actually am. And, they are NOT doing away with the right to privacy if this report is accurate.
They are not even making abortion illegal. They are returning the decision to the people.... to be decided by the state officials elected by the people.

A breach such as this is actually an insurrection on the court. It is appalling and needs to be addressed immediately.

Oh Lordy no wonder the GOP keeps winning if this is the level of critical thinking we are dealing with.

DP, it's actual thinking as opposed to the plethora of emoting as seen so far on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they do overturn Roe v Wade. I don't think republicans have kept up with advances in genetic testing.

Be prepared to pay for child support for 18 years.

Plus more wives will die, if they have medical problems in childbirth. It's like they don't care or don't think it will happen to them.

This will only affect poor women, especially those of color.

This is what the conservatives want right?

More people on welfare! Hooray!

No, what conservatives want is more dead Black women.

As a black man who is a conservative, when I read white people write stuff like this anonymously it makes me uncomfortable.

You should be uncomfortable. You will behind the unnecessary deaths of many women, particularly those in low-income areas without access to safe abortions.

Black women have terrible health outcomes already, including maternal mortality. This will just contribute to more black women dying. Along with others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats RBG!! Your selfishness will also be part of your legacy.

- democrat

Hubris can indeed destroy someone’s legacy in one fell swoop. This delusional and stupid idea that she could somehow get to decide when to die will apparently live on to unwind much of her life’s work.

Unfortunately this poetic history lesson is coming at our expense.

The decision of RBG to deny Obama under a supermajority the opportunity to replace her (a two-time cancer and stroke survivor!) in favor of a pact with Clinton for optics is the most unintentionally evil thing she’s ever done. And I truly believe Hilary realized on 2016 election night she doomed women for generations with her hubris and push to literally break a glass ceiling in Javitts over everything else. She should have quietly retired in 2009.

Just stop, you disgusting misogynistic pig.

The Republicans 100% own this.

Blocking SCOTUS nomination.

Lying to Congress.

Unethical participation in rulings.

Shady backroom deals.


ALL of it falls on the amoral GOP.

Obama had the super-majority. Ginsburg knew exactly what the GOP was capable of but she decided to hang on for 3 years until Clinton could come into office and nominate another woman in a historic way. Oh well.

Amy Coney Barrett (the exact opposite of Ginsburg) wouldn't have been seated. The court would have been 4 to 4 and Roberts would have abstained.

ACB wouldn’t have been seated if she hadn’t lied to Congress. That’s on her.

[Anonymous]

Women need to rise up against this. Men are the root of so many problems in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

Too bad. This is what they fought for..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what an America without Roe will look like.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/upshot/abortion-without-roe-wade.html?fbclid=IwAR0y91eQGNT6PDe3p6m7HGvhcmH-CsfyTlgYg4pSoddiJJSlyQ6NsehlvZA

Here are the clinics that would close immediately due to trigger laws.

Very likely that trigger laws ban IVF in at least a dozen states this summer:

One of the legislative initiatives that has been undertaken by several states is a statute creating a trigger ban on abortion, wherein the Supreme Court striking down Roe would immediately result in an automatic complete abortion ban statewide.2 So far, twelve states3 have passed such trigger bans, and several other states are poised to follow and ban abortion entirely, should Roe be overturned.4 These trigger bans could have far-reaching, unintended (or perhaps completely intended) consequences not only for pregnant people, but also for those trying to prevent pregnancy through common methods such as birth control or the “morning after” pill.5 Additionally, the trigger bans may have significant impacts on those pursuing in vitro fertilization (IVF), as well as on the providers of such services.6

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/

Good bye, IVF.

Wonder how white republicans women feel about this

Maybe plan on having kids earlier?

[Anonymous]

the leaks are noting new...save your faux outrage