Choosing between VDA ECNL and FCV GA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is definitely a shortage of refs and especially high quality refs. Nothing like your DD working to play highly competitive soccer and have to deal with terrible ref calls. IMHO - refs allow a very physical level of play for girls soccer. A lot of games turn into rugby matches.

I wonder why theres a shortage? 🤷‍♀️

The job should come with a platinum membership to the ABC store.

[Anonymous]

Maybe a rating system? Higher rated refs get paid more. Each team gets one vote. Over time, trends will emerge and highlight the good ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe a rating system? Higher rated refs get paid more. Each team gets one vote. Over time, trends will emerge and highlight the good ones

How does that help with the shortage?

[Anonymous]

Parents just need to chill on the refs and let the coaches express their displeasure for any bad calls. Parents are the ones abusing refs. Never have I ever seen a call overturned or calls go the teams way, whose parents abuse the ref. I would not mind being a ref on my days off but forget it. Parents are just idiots. I Could not handle it without knocking someone out. VDA over FCV.

[Anonymous]

Which refs are better? FCV refs or VDA refs? Ha.

[Anonymous]

Good refs don't generally get yelled at over bad calls because they generally make fewer of them.

New young refs will make bad calls and parents and coaches will yell at them. While this is certainly not ideal, what these refs need to do is really be objective about the call they made and recognize and admit if they made a mistake.

If week after week you keep getting called out for the same missed calls the problem just may be you and you should look into the rule, your positioning or any reason you keep missing the call and why you keep calling the same thing the same way.

Just because you are a ref doesn't mean you made the right call and by the same token, just because 10 parents hoot and holler doesn't mean you made a bad call either. But a young ref needs to be open to be self reflective and correct mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents just need to chill on the refs and let the coaches express their displeasure for any bad calls. Parents are the ones abusing refs. Never have I ever seen a call overturned or calls go the teams way, whose parents abuse the ref. I would not mind being a ref on my days off but forget it. Parents are just idiots. I Could not handle it without knocking someone out. VDA over FCV.

You mean Loudoun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good refs don't generally get yelled at over bad calls because they generally make fewer of them.

New young refs will make bad calls and parents and coaches will yell at them. While this is certainly not ideal, what these refs need to do is really be objective about the call they made and recognize and admit if they made a mistake.

If week after week you keep getting called out for the same missed calls the problem just may be you and you should look into the rule, your positioning or any reason you keep missing the call and why you keep calling the same thing the same way.

Just because you are a ref doesn't mean you made the right call and by the same token, just because 10 parents hoot and holler doesn't mean you made a bad call either. But a young ref needs to be open to be self reflective and correct mistakes.

the young ref made two excellent calls and was admonished for doing so. That’s the point. They would still be blaming him at their next wine party if not vindicated by video.

[Anonymous]

Coaches need to do a better job and parents would complain less.

[Anonymous]

PWSI and VSA are VDA. There is nothing special about VDA. It’s the same below average coaching your DS or DD has gotten since they were U9. Only difference is the travel and costs. The boys side has lost most the talent due to the decision to go ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PWSI and VSA are VDA. There is nothing special about VDA. It’s the same below average coaching your DS or DD has gotten since they were U9. Only difference is the travel and costs. The boys side has lost most the talent due to the decision to go ECNL.

It's amazing how quickly VDA deletes posts. Can't stand the truth. In any case, word of mouth is far more powerful in the business world and that can’t be deleted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PWSI and VSA are VDA. There is nothing special about VDA. It’s the same below average coaching your DS or DD has gotten since they were U9. Only difference is the travel and costs. The boys side has lost most the talent due to the decision to go ECNL.

It's amazing how quickly VDA deletes posts. Can't stand the truth. In any case, word of mouth is far more powerful in the business world and that can’t be deleted.

Any coach, any sport, any league in the world is under same scrutiny. Either you win every game, or "something is wrong with you". You can never prove he is the reason a team lost and he can't prove he's the reason they won. His "great team" is winning... therefore, he's doing *literally* his job exactly as he should. He didn't take a super-team and tank them to mid-level, they are dominating. So, as for other teams, what do you expect? Every age group to be #1? I'm sorry... did I miss the ECNL webpage where one club has a #1 team in every age..? Darn. So, it would seem that you're DD is either playing all the time, exactly where she should, or you're gonna cry. There is zero harm to anyone. Girls are going to college. The best team in the area continues to show it. The teams only gained girls and those that left did so at their free will. Children, not pros. The coaches are doing exactly as they should. Sorry you had a bad experience, but watch out for VDA to continue to rise rise rise

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coaches need to do a better job and parents would complain less.

It's truly that simple. Big egos, on the other hand, do not die. He's not going to change, so good luck. 🍀

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PWSI and VSA are VDA. There is nothing special about VDA. It’s the same below average coaching your DS or DD has gotten since they were U9. Only difference is the travel and costs. The boys side has lost most the talent due to the decision to go ECNL.

It's amazing how quickly VDA deletes posts. Can't stand the truth. In any case, word of mouth is far more powerful in the business world and that can’t be deleted.

Any coach, any sport, any league in the world is under same scrutiny. Either you win every game, or "something is wrong with you". You can never prove he is the reason a team lost and he can't prove he's the reason they won. His "great team" is winning... therefore, he's doing *literally* his job exactly as he should. He didn't take a super-team and tank them to mid-level, they are dominating. So, as for other teams, what do you expect? Every age group to be #1? I'm sorry... did I miss the ECNL webpage where one club has a #1 team in every age..? Darn. So, it would seem that you're DD is either playing all the time, exactly where she should, or you're gonna cry. There is zero harm to anyone. Girls are going to college. The best team in the area continues to show it. The teams only gained girls and those that left did so at their free will. Children, not pros. The coaches are doing exactly as they should. Sorry you had a bad experience, but watch out for VDA to continue to rise rise rise

You're a complete moron. You are not a good coach just because one team in a club is performing well. And that's the crux of your problem: you believe that having one good team out of a whole club qualifies you as a great coach, it doesn't. That's exactly what happened at BRYC; yes, the 03 were excellent, but all of the other teams were destroyed. Girls were made to feel bad and told they were worthless, leaving us with nothing to rebuild on. Grow up and become a better coach, recognizing the genuine talent you have in the whole team, and stop pushing the girls away and start mentoring them how to play as a team.

[Anonymous]

No one is saying 'great coach', saying you can't give all the credit to a coach and can't give all the blame either. These are youth coaches lol. When a team is superior to every other team in the area, by far, you can claim a small win. Just reality. Observations as a parent here bud.. sorry your team struggles. Every club has great teams and crappy teams. Ebbs and flows.