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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

Non of the kids already in high school are switching schools.

You are either misinformed or intentionally lying. Go listen to Ricardy Anderson's comments at the School Board meeting last night.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

My son is a ninth grader who may be rezoned. His father and I both work full-time jobs that require us to be in the office 5 days a week. He does not drive, nor do I plan on getting him a car. None of his friends drive because they are in ninth grade and will be taking the bus. He wants to stay at his current school, with his current friends, and stay in his current sports teams. We are a real family who will be impacted by this. Please keep your 'opinions' about who is affluent enough to make this work to yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

Do you think this policy only affects kids in a WSHS neighborhood?

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

My son is a ninth grader who may be rezoned. His father and I both work full-time jobs that require us to be in the office 5 days a week. He does not drive, nor do I plan on getting him a car. None of his friends drive because they are in ninth grade and will be taking the bus. He wants to stay at his current school, with his current friends, and stay in his current sports teams. We are a real family who will be impacted by this. Please keep your 'opinions' about who is affluent enough to make this work to yourself.

+1. It's like there are people who intentionally stick their heads in the sand. Maybe they are just shills for Reid and the School Board, or perhaps they are incapable of acknowledging that they are supporting something that is so obviously discriminatory and anti-equity. Either way they suck.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

Non of the kids already in high school are switching schools.

You are either misinformed or intentionally lying. Go listen to Ricardy Anderson's comments at the School Board meeting last night.

And when she asked Reid this very question, "will you provide transportation to juniors and seniors to stay at their current high schools," Reid had to look it up. And then had to admit that no, they would not provide transportation. And no one else on the school board seemed to care. These people are truly heartless. They basically said it only affects a few thousand kids so no big deal.

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Sorry, no bussing is the right decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, no bussing is the right decision.

Sorry, no unnecessary boundary changes is the rightest decision.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

Do you think this policy only affects kids in a WSHS neighborhood?

No, but she was arguing about WSHS ("you want to sacrifice other kids so your kid doesn't have to go to Lewis"was her overall statement) so I responded specifically about the LB/WSHS rezoning.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, no bussing is the right decision.

Is your child being rezoned?

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The school board is fine with allowing certain groups of students (i.e. middle schoolers, rising 10th - 12th) to remain at their current schools so why would they have an issue with allowing those students to be bused from a pickup spot that remains associated with their previously assigned school? It still creates an hardship for those families but at least it lessens the impact.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

My son is a ninth grader who may be rezoned. His father and I both work full-time jobs that require us to be in the office 5 days a week. He does not drive, nor do I plan on getting him a car. None of his friends drive because they are in ninth grade and will be taking the bus. He wants to stay at his current school, with his current friends, and stay in his current sports teams. We are a real family who will be impacted by this. Please keep your 'opinions' about who is affluent enough to make this work to yourself.

Have you thought about asking the school board if the grandfathered WSHS kids from that Sangster neighborhood can just catch the bus from one of their friend's neighborhoods?

That would seem like the easiest, most bydget friendly solution.

You might have better luck with that request than getting a dedicated additional bus to go to your neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

My son is a ninth grader who may be rezoned. His father and I both work full-time jobs that require us to be in the office 5 days a week. He does not drive, nor do I plan on getting him a car. None of his friends drive because they are in ninth grade and will be taking the bus. He wants to stay at his current school, with his current friends, and stay in his current sports teams. We are a real family who will be impacted by this. Please keep your 'opinions' about who is affluent enough to make this work to yourself.

Have you thought about asking the school board if the grandfathered WSHS kids from that Sangster neighborhood can just catch the bus from one of their friend's neighborhoods?

That would seem like the easiest, most bydget friendly solution.

You might have better luck with that request than getting a dedicated additional bus to go to your neighborhood.

That is a possible option. But in many cases it would just be extending the route of an existing bus into previously designated boundaries and not an entirely different bus.

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Anonymous wrote:We voted these clowns in. The very clowns who decided to jam us with an unnecessary comprehensive boundary study resulting in thousands of our kids suffering mental health trauma being forced to move schools, with the only justification that we hadn’t done it in 40 years (which is misleading in and of itself).

We all need to remember how they gave little thought to how to implement these changes and have really set the county back and wasted so much of FCPS employee time and resources on an unnecessary course with only negative outcomes. They could have actually tried to improve the school experience, but instead just wasted their time for years at this point shuffling our kids around like pawns.

Screw them.

The kids are moving with all of their classmates from ES, they know kids at the new school through that grouping. They probably know other kids at the new school through activities. They will be fine. Kids move every year for family reasons, jobs, changing houses, and the like. The vast majority are just fine. Moving with a hundred or so kids that you know from ES is not traumatic. And kids in their HSs right now won’t have to move.

I suspect that the kids who will struggle are the kids of parents who are flipping out. Or that the kids who are moved and have a normal teenage hiccup will lead to parents blaming redistricting.

I agree with the underlined part.

An interesting side note, every year, including this one, there are multiple discussions on our town Facebook page over whether AAP kids should attend the center middle school at the bext school over (very similar except it is a 7th-12th secondary school) or remain at the Local Level 4 middle school and continue to our neighborhood high school.

There are always dozens and dozens of parents posting how it is soooo easy socially to transition between the secondary AAP program and the stand alone middle school/high school, because the kids all know lots of kids at both schools (true even for non AAP kids at both schools) and because there is so much overlap between all 3 schools through community events, sports, scouts, performing arts, etc.

The same statements are made every year when this topic comes up. I completely agree that the school communities do overlap quite a bit, especially through sports and activities. The kids at the middle school, secondary and high school all know mamy kids from each pyramid.

But the neighborhood that is getting rezoned to that secondary school is flipping out and claiming the opposite is true, as the main argument against their split feeder being eliminated.

It is kind of interesting to see those completely opposite arguments playing out online simultaneously.

Sounds like you’re fine with other kids getting moved from West Springfield to Lake Braddock, so long as they aren’t your kids. This is the consistent theme - other kids can cope, but leave mine alone.

Every year the AAP question comes up. And every year, the overwhelming response is that either option is great because the kids have tons of friends at each of the 3 schools, and there is so much social and community overlap between the schools.

These discussions have been going on with the exact same comments since AAP was added to Irving over 10 years ago. The discussion is always the same each year, that the schools are very close socially so attending either school or both schools is really easy socially.

It is just interesting to see that annual Irving/WSHS/LBSS discussion occur under the context of the rezoning fight, when the main arguments against rezoning to Lake Braddock with most of their classmates and friends, are the complete opposite to the common knowledge and experiences expressed each year in the community at large and the annual online middle school AAP discussions.

Even if you are completely against rezoning, it is impossible not to see rhe irony of these two very contradictory positions, occuring simultaneously under the shadow of rezoning.

It's a different calculus when you're talking about effectively forcing some kids already in high school to switch schools. Do you really not see that? Or are they useful sacrificial lambs across the county, as long as you're not redistricted to Lewis?

They are not forcing kids to move if they have started HS.

Learn to read. They are effectively forcing kids whose families can't arrange for their transportation (and there are more of these families than they acknowledge) to switch schools starting next fall. Including HS kids.

Most if not all of the kids in that WSHS/LB neighborhood have their own cars or friends with cars, or a parent who can transport them.

It is a fairly affluent area

My son is a ninth grader who may be rezoned. His father and I both work full-time jobs that require us to be in the office 5 days a week. He does not drive, nor do I plan on getting him a car. None of his friends drive because they are in ninth grade and will be taking the bus. He wants to stay at his current school, with his current friends, and stay in his current sports teams. We are a real family who will be impacted by this. Please keep your 'opinions' about who is affluent enough to make this work to yourself.

Have you thought about asking the school board if the grandfathered WSHS kids from that Sangster neighborhood can just catch the bus from one of their friend's neighborhoods?

That would seem like the easiest, most bydget friendly solution.

You might have better luck with that request than getting a dedicated additional bus to go to your neighborhood.

I've made many recommendations to the board that would not incur additional costs. I have only got form letters back saying that no decisions have been made (including no decisions on the maps themselves).

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Anonymous wrote:The school board is fine with allowing certain groups of students (i.e. middle schoolers, rising 10th - 12th) to remain at their current schools so why would they have an issue with allowing those students to be bused from a pickup spot that remains associated with their previously assigned school? It still creates an hardship for those families but at least it lessens the impact.

We saw over and over again during Covid that the school board doesn’t want to hear or consider any creative solutions to anything. No alternative solutions to transportation for high schoolers affected by boundary changes. No outdoor classes or classes with windows open for ventilation. No this no that. It has to be exactly the same as it always was, no changes.

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My kid is a rising 9th grader so they would move if we were re-boundary … there is no grandfathering