APS - School Shifts in the Fall?

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I'm in APE and all I can say is I don't blame you personally for what has happened. I don't know you. I blame APS leadership for lack of vision. There are some extreme members in APE, in AEM and in SR who post crazy stuff. We try to moderate. Sometimes we do better than others.

DP, not a teacher, but could you please try harder? I know my kids' teachers are working incredibly hard to educate my kids, and every time I hear someone from APE announce that schools are closed, I want to scream. School is happening. Not 5-day in-person instruction, but kids are getting educated.

(I am very happy to think about how hard you'll all be working from now on to ensure that kids at lower SES schools get all the advantages your kids get, and your commitment to making sure that APS prioritizes students' mental health in the years to come. So thank you for that.)

DP who is not a member of APE. If reading posts in the APE Facebook group is that upsetting, why not unfollow the group?

[Anonymous]

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I'm in APE and all I can say is I don't blame you personally for what has happened. I don't know you. I blame APS leadership for lack of vision. There are some extreme members in APE, in AEM and in SR who post crazy stuff. We try to moderate. Sometimes we do better than others.

DP, not a teacher, but could you please try harder? I know my kids' teachers are working incredibly hard to educate my kids, and every time I hear someone from APE announce that schools are closed, I want to scream. School is happening. Not 5-day in-person instruction, but kids are getting educated.

(I am very happy to think about how hard you'll all be working from now on to ensure that kids at lower SES schools get all the advantages your kids get, and your commitment to making sure that APS prioritizes students' mental health in the years to come. So thank you for that.)

DP who is not a member of APE. If reading posts in the APE Facebook group is that upsetting, why not unfollow the group?

Not to mention the awful and unmoderated vitriol of AEM.

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Anonymous wrote:Recall SB lady is posting on AEM today. Very ballsy!

You seem very invested in trying to derail this discussion.

I'm all-in on the discussion. I do think though it's funny that no one has ever commented on the actual screenshots - the SB recall.

What is Turner's position on the SB recall? Let me guess - you'll skip right over that one again.

It's called deflection. And APE is very good at it.

Why are you attacking APE? Did you read The above? They stated that MT already spelled out her position on the SB recall buried in a AEM thread. If you want to read it, it is there. Scroll up. But I'm sure it's easier for you to attack APE.

She did not. Or if she did she deleted it.

I went back and read through every single post on that dumb thread.

No it was explained in the thread here. Sorry I wasn't clear. I just went into AEM and did a quick search for her name, his name & recall and found it. Cutting and pasting here for you.

BE: thanks for your questions. APE has on several occasions noted that there is no "APE lawsuit," and I've posted in this forum about it as well. As a candidate for School Board, I support measures which would return APS to in-person instruction for more days this school year, for those families and children who need/want it. I don't support measures that don't advance that cause, and you may count in that category the lawsuit and the recall. Finally, as several have already noted, neither the lawsuit or the recall are backed by APE (nor the Republican party to my knowledge, though I'm a Democrat).

Yes Miranda said she doesn't support the recall. But she is on the Steering Committee of APE and EHN's post said APE is considering a recall of Board members. It didn't say "I" or even "we." It said APE.

Of course they all want to run from it now that they got exposed and it looks bad....

and really what chance did they have to recall anyways?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Recall SB lady is posting on AEM today. Very ballsy!

You seem very invested in trying to derail this discussion.

I'm all-in on the discussion. I do think though it's funny that no one has ever commented on the actual screenshots - the SB recall.

What is Turner's position on the SB recall? Let me guess - you'll skip right over that one again.

It's called deflection. And APE is very good at it.

Why are you attacking APE? Did you read The above? They stated that MT already spelled out her position on the SB recall buried in a AEM thread. If you want to read it, it is there. Scroll up. But I'm sure it's easier for you to attack APE.

She did not. Or if she did she deleted it.

I went back and read through every single post on that dumb thread.

No it was explained in the thread here. Sorry I wasn't clear. I just went into AEM and did a quick search for her name, his name & recall and found it. Cutting and pasting here for you.

BE: thanks for your questions. APE has on several occasions noted that there is no "APE lawsuit," and I've posted in this forum about it as well. As a candidate for School Board, I support measures which would return APS to in-person instruction for more days this school year, for those families and children who need/want it. I don't support measures that don't advance that cause, and you may count in that category the lawsuit and the recall. Finally, as several have already noted, neither the lawsuit or the recall are backed by APE (nor the Republican party to my knowledge, though I'm a Democrat).

Yes Miranda said she doesn't support the recall. But she is on the Steering Committee of APE and EHN's post said APE is considering a recall of Board members. It didn't say "I" or even "we." It said APE.

Of course they all want to run from it now that they got exposed and it looks bad....

and really what chance did they have to recall anyways?

MT is on steering, EHN is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Recall SB lady is posting on AEM today. Very ballsy!

You seem very invested in trying to derail this discussion.

I'm all-in on the discussion. I do think though it's funny that no one has ever commented on the actual screenshots - the SB recall.

What is Turner's position on the SB recall? Let me guess - you'll skip right over that one again.

It's called deflection. And APE is very good at it.

Why are you attacking APE? Did you read The above? They stated that MT already spelled out her position on the SB recall buried in a AEM thread. If you want to read it, it is there. Scroll up. But I'm sure it's easier for you to attack APE.

She did not. Or if she did she deleted it.

I went back and read through every single post on that dumb thread.

No it was explained in the thread here. Sorry I wasn't clear. I just went into AEM and did a quick search for her name, his name & recall and found it. Cutting and pasting here for you.

BE: thanks for your questions. APE has on several occasions noted that there is no "APE lawsuit," and I've posted in this forum about it as well. As a candidate for School Board, I support measures which would return APS to in-person instruction for more days this school year, for those families and children who need/want it. I don't support measures that don't advance that cause, and you may count in that category the lawsuit and the recall. Finally, as several have already noted, neither the lawsuit or the recall are backed by APE (nor the Republican party to my knowledge, though I'm a Democrat).

Yes Miranda said she doesn't support the recall. But she is on the Steering Committee of APE and EHN's post said APE is considering a recall of Board members. It didn't say "I" or even "we." It said APE.

Of course they all want to run from it now that they got exposed and it looks bad....

and really what chance did they have to recall anyways?

MT is on steering, EHN is not.

+1. EHN used to be on the steering committee but quit, so she really doesn’t speak for them anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi. I'm an APS teacher who found DCUM from AEM. I never comment anywhere, but when you're anon, you can be anyone, right?

APE's worst members are my nightmare and keep me up at night. They first blamed me for school facilities not being open. For me somehow being lazy when I've been working 60+ hour weeks. And now, that school aren't five days a week on a normal bell schedule, I'm somehow to blame too. I'm an easy target, because I'm the one in APS they interact with most.

But I want to say something to the Smart Restart group too. You don't represent me either. I'm vaccinated, and happy to be back in my classroom and to see everyone again. I care for your children and want all of them to succeed. I'm a better teacher in person. I worry about my virtual kids though, especially the ones that are not engaged. I know some of my colleagues don't feel the same way about returning to facilities, but the way you ram your message down AEM's collective throats turns many of the people in my school off too.

I'm sorry I saw that Twitter page. I'll try to forget it now. That person, whoever it is, speaks for nobody at all. What an embarrassment.

All I can say to both parent groups and everyone in the middle is to please dial it back. You're making me and many of my colleagues miserable. All of you.

I’m another APS employee who agrees that SR does not speak for me. I don’t go to AEM anymore. It seems like most of the really obsessive teachers have left the APS educators group and are maybe in SR or another group now.

+1000. Add another APS staff person who is tired of SR speaking for me. I'm fine with our school's arrangements of lunch and mitigation. Thanks for the air cleaners though.


So weird to think that teachers are not a monolith.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I'm in APE and all I can say is I don't blame you personally for what has happened. I don't know you. I blame APS leadership for lack of vision. There are some extreme members in APE, in AEM and in SR who post crazy stuff. We try to moderate. Sometimes we do better than others.

DP, not a teacher, but could you please try harder? I know my kids' teachers are working incredibly hard to educate my kids, and every time I hear someone from APE announce that schools are closed, I want to scream. School is happening. Not 5-day in-person instruction, but kids are getting educated.

(I am very happy to think about how hard you'll all be working from now on to ensure that kids at lower SES schools get all the advantages your kids get, and your commitment to making sure that APS prioritizes students' mental health in the years to come. So thank you for that.)

I’m also a DP and I agree that the anti-teacher comments on APE FB group are very off-putting. But to be fair, many of us are so far beyond the end of our ropes. Schools haven’t been open. I get that they are now, a little, but it took a year of them being closed for the vast majority of kids. I’m not saying that teachers aren’t working hard, but for me, it’s been a very disappointing and disillusioning time to be an APS parent. I can’t work from home, never have and never will, and this year I have done more to teach my kids than I would in any normal year.

I also agree that the lawsuit brought by one APE member has its issues but APS had to settle one lawsuit in 2020 (pre-covid) and based on their treatment of kids with IEPs this year, more are coming. I wish either school board candidate would talk more about how APS is going to function with a fraction of its prior budget (or how they’re using federal funds if that’s where things are coming from now).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great. I don't have to put in more work, because that Twitter account did it for me. Not a smart look to come back to harass more APE members.

Look at the followers list. Most, if not all SR members. 'Nuff said.

I can't find it

Agree, I'm not on twitter, so I can't see who follows and who the account is following. It's obviously an account made by BE, however, and I find it hysterical he turned it back on and is pretending it's not him because someone screen-shoted it.

This makes no sense. He was obviously fine sharing it under his own name on AEM so why would he put it under an anon account?

Whoever the twitter person is wants to be anonymous.

+1

I'm pretty sure the style of posting will be narrowed down pretty quickly from AEM / SR folks. She/he should be ashamed.. maybe their kids can give them some schooling on morals.

[Anonymous]

LOL, the Twitter account has been locked down again. Their bravado didn’t last long...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm in APE and all I can say is I don't blame you personally for what has happened. I don't know you. I blame APS leadership for lack of vision. There are some extreme members in APE, in AEM and in SR who post crazy stuff. We try to moderate. Sometimes we do better than others.

DP, not a teacher, but could you please try harder? I know my kids' teachers are working incredibly hard to educate my kids, and every time I hear someone from APE announce that schools are closed, I want to scream. School is happening. Not 5-day in-person instruction, but kids are getting educated.

(I am very happy to think about how hard you'll all be working from now on to ensure that kids at lower SES schools get all the advantages your kids get, and your commitment to making sure that APS prioritizes students' mental health in the years to come. So thank you for that.)

I’m also a DP and I agree that the anti-teacher comments on APE FB group are very off-putting. But to be fair, many of us are so far beyond the end of our ropes. Schools haven’t been open. I get that they are now, a little, but it took a year of them being closed for the vast majority of kids. I’m not saying that teachers aren’t working hard, but for me, it’s been a very disappointing and disillusioning time to be an APS parent. I can’t work from home, never have and never will, and this year I have done more to teach my kids than I would in any normal year.

I also agree that the lawsuit brought by one APE member has its issues but APS had to settle one lawsuit in 2020 (pre-covid) and based on their treatment of kids with IEPs this year, more are coming. I wish either school board candidate would talk more about how APS is going to function with a fraction of its prior budget (or how they’re using federal funds if that’s where things are coming from now).

right there with you PP. APS leadership is the problem here, not teachers
(signed - APE member)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL, the Twitter account has been locked down again. Their bravado didn’t last long...

ZOMG. It feels like we're watching someone have a meltdown. Really sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi. I'm an APS teacher who found DCUM from AEM. I never comment anywhere, but when you're anon, you can be anyone, right?

APE's worst members are my nightmare and keep me up at night. They first blamed me for school facilities not being open. For me somehow being lazy when I've been working 60+ hour weeks. And now, that school aren't five days a week on a normal bell schedule, I'm somehow to blame too. I'm an easy target, because I'm the one in APS they interact with most.

But I want to say something to the Smart Restart group too. You don't represent me either. I'm vaccinated, and happy to be back in my classroom and to see everyone again. I care for your children and want all of them to succeed. I'm a better teacher in person. I worry about my virtual kids though, especially the ones that are not engaged. I know some of my colleagues don't feel the same way about returning to facilities, but the way you ram your message down AEM's collective throats turns many of the people in my school off too.

I'm sorry I saw that Twitter page. I'll try to forget it now. That person, whoever it is, speaks for nobody at all. What an embarrassment.

All I can say to both parent groups and everyone in the middle is to please dial it back. You're making me and many of my colleagues miserable. All of you.

Parent here who wants to say something to you too. Teachers who are now vaccinated no longer seem to care about the kids who are back in buildings without the protection you have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, the Twitter account has been locked down again. Their bravado didn’t last long...

ZOMG. It feels like we're watching someone have a meltdown. Really sad.

And Arlington is, in the end, a small community.

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Anonymous wrote:Great. I don't have to put in more work, because that Twitter account did it for me. Not a smart look to come back to harass more APE members.

Look at the followers list. Most, if not all SR members. 'Nuff said.

I can't find it

Agree, I'm not on twitter, so I can't see who follows and who the account is following. It's obviously an account made by BE, however, and I find it hysterical he turned it back on and is pretending it's not him because someone screen-shoted it.

This makes no sense. He was obviously fine sharing it under his own name on AEM so why would he put it under an anon account?

Whoever the twitter person is wants to be anonymous.

+1

I'm pretty sure the style of posting will be narrowed down pretty quickly from AEM / SR folks. She/he should be ashamed.. maybe their kids can give them some schooling on morals.

Of course you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great. I don't have to put in more work, because that Twitter account did it for me. Not a smart look to come back to harass more APE members.

Look at the followers list. Most, if not all SR members. 'Nuff said.

I can't find it

Agree, I'm not on twitter, so I can't see who follows and who the account is following. It's obviously an account made by BE, however, and I find it hysterical he turned it back on and is pretending it's not him because someone screen-shoted it.

This makes no sense. He was obviously fine sharing it under his own name on AEM so why would he put it under an anon account?

Whoever the twitter person is wants to be anonymous.

+1

I'm pretty sure the style of posting will be narrowed down pretty quickly from AEM / SR folks. She/he should be ashamed.. maybe their kids can give them some schooling on morals.

I'm curious too but not enough to put any energy into it. When you start talking about analyzing style of writing, you sound unhinged. (maybe you are?)