Has Duran gone mad? (APS)

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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number


it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.


Literally any “consultant” working in the Federal IT or Defense space makes more than this to start. And they top out a lot higher than teachers, and rarely have multiple degrees, and people don’t denigrate their livelihoods, even though anyone can do that job, unlike teaching.


Thank you. I am a published writer, I am educated, and I excelled in my field. PP seems to think I’m demanding a six figure job with unlimited vacation but I am not, and what I am seeking, I’m qualified for. I will never understand the logic of treating the people in charge of educating your children as barely literate unemployable cretins.


It’s a twofold mindset. First, the wealthy mindset see teachers much like governesses, aka household staff. Slightly elevated from nanny/au pair, so you may eat at their table and not downstairs with the maids and butlers, but you aren’t one of them and never will be. Then you have the hillbilly mindset, who resent those with more education and who are jealous/resentful that other “ordinary” people who live in their same communities have what they see as much better jobs (better benefits/pensions/summers off) than them.

I think there are posters who fall into either category on this thread.

In most other countries, teachers are highly paid professionals and are revered and respected. Americans suck, generally. That’s why Covid is out of control and teachers are routinely sh** upon.
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It is going to kill hybrid if they open in January/early February. It’ll be like private school for rabid APE members! I guess the silver lining for teachers will be that huge numbers will likely defect from hybrid to DL. So in elementary it could mean they need another DL teacher or two at each grade level. And for MS and HS, fewer kids Lin person in your concurrent classes.
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I have not heard news of teachers dying of Covid from the areas where schools are open. Do we know what the Covid spread rates are for schools at this point and can make a determination of whether or not its safe to return?
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There’s no good data on spread because schools that are open (other than private) aren’t testing their populations. If lack of reported deaths is your metric, though, you are good. Some of us are a little wary of that. 🙄
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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good data on spread because schools that are open (other than private) aren’t testing their populations. If lack of reported deaths is your metric, though, you are good. Some of us are a little wary of that. 🙄


Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good data on spread because schools that are open (other than private) aren’t testing their populations. If lack of reported deaths is your metric, though, you are good. Some of us are a little wary of that. 🙄


Exactly.


So there is no data on spread in schools? How about teacher infection rates or something?
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Anonymous wrote:Wow this thread really jumped the shark.
Anyone have any additional info on whether they are pushing to reopen in February still?


They are. All local districts will send people back in January into early February


Still waiting for any support to all of these assertions.


Alexandria and FFX have already announced. I was at the APS where the date was determined (pre-determined?) so you can take that however you want.


Link? You seem to be the only one with this “information.”


DP. You must not have looked, because it took me about 10 seconds to find this FCPS return schedule:

https://www.fcps.edu/returntoschool
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I think there’s a whole thread on people doubting that Ffx will go through with their plan to bring people back in January.

I’m all for coming back, but why do it at the height of the pandemic? Literally every metric is either red or orange on the aps dashboard. This is insanity.
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Anonymous wrote:I think there’s a whole thread on people doubting that Ffx will go through with their plan to bring people back in January.

I’m all for coming back, but why do it at the height of the pandemic? Literally every metric is either red or orange on the aps dashboard. This is insanity.


Because the early data is showing very big red flags that distance learning isn’t working, especially not for disadvantaged/vulnerable students. For many of those students, they’d be better off cancelling this school year and figuring out a path forward to make it up than to continue with distance learning. Trying to get those students back in classrooms is the most feasible alternative.
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Except those aren’t the students opting for hybrid. Not in Arlington.
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See upthread. It’s the rich schools that disproportionately chose hybrid and the disadvantaged schools that dispropchose DL.
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Anonymous wrote:LMAO I do not make 80k. You just made up an arbitrary number of years and went with that number


it wasn't totally arbitrary- you said you had multiple degrees, and had several years of experience teaching. So I went with the 'masters plus 30 units' scale and assumed about 10 years of teaching experience.

But honestly- if you go with masters plus 30 units and assume 5 years of experience- you would be making about 63k, which would turn into 76k over 12 mos. I still don't know entry level jobs (outside of biglaw) that employee people at 76k starting out.


You don’t know jobs that pay 63k for people with multiple degrees and other work experience (because teaching is not my first and only job)? Lol ok


I've been teaching 13 years and have my masters plus 30 in APS and don't make that much either- we've had years of pay freezes/no step increases since I started teaching. My younger brother has a bachelors degree in computer programming and has been working just over a year- he makes more $$ than me.
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Anonymous wrote:See upthread. It’s the rich schools that disproportionately chose hybrid and the disadvantaged schools that dispropchose DL.


Exactly- I work in a Title 1 school and we have at least 3 grade levels that have more kids doing DL than hybrid.
Anonymous
Staff was told verbally (guessing this was intentional). Only know of ES phases: PK-K go back in January; 1st and 2nd February; 3rd through 5th in March.
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Anonymous wrote:There’s no good data on spread because schools that are open (other than private) aren’t testing their populations. If lack of reported deaths is your metric, though, you are good. Some of us are a little wary of that. 🙄


Exactly.


So there is no data on spread in schools? How about teacher infection rates or something?


In this area the only kids who have been back are small numbers of k-2 or sped or EL1 students. We have not had enough kids backto see but with the limited number we had in, we had quite a few cases
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