[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good grief! Angry white racists truly are a plague in this country. I do believe they are a minority, but man, are they loud and toxic! It's a good thing that so many of these incidents are getting recorded and exposed. No more hiding that rotten element.

Where is the evidence that he is a racist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.

Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.

Um, there is a video.

DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.

[Anonymous]

Round up the suspects, dress them alike in the biker's outfit and let the three people he attacked identify him in a line up. Someone knows who he is and his family is protecting him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Round up the suspects, dress them alike in the biker's outfit and let the three people he attacked identify him in a line up. Someone knows who he is and his family is protecting him.

Are you calling on the police to do this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those teal/blue taped handle bars are pretty distinctive. I'm sure some of the bike enthusiasts could also identify his bike. He was wearing bike shoes, had other bike gear on, someone should be able to ID this guy.

He’s had all week to disassemble and ditch the bike (and all the equipment he was wearing). Nobody in their right mind would still have that bike in their possession after this went viral.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t affixing flyers to trees in a protected park littering? Are these woke college students planning to come back and remove the soggy paper and tape? The environment matters, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.

Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.

Um, there is a video.

DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.

And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t affixing flyers to trees in a protected park littering? Are these woke college students planning to come back and remove the soggy paper and tape? The environment matters, too.

Cheeseball Republican in the house! Welcome!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.

Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.

Um, there is a video.

DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.

And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.

Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)

[Anonymous]

CNN reporter on Twitter that there is an arrest in process now. No name yet.

Three counts of second degree assault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.

Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.

Um, there is a video.

DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.

And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.

Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)

They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t affixing flyers to trees in a protected park littering? Are these woke college students planning to come back and remove the soggy paper and tape? The environment matters, too.

So because the environment matters, a teen should be knocked to the ground by a vigilante cyclist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t affixing flyers to trees in a protected park littering? Are these woke college students planning to come back and remove the soggy paper and tape? The environment matters, too.

Cheeseball Republican in the house! Welcome!

You have no idea how bad it can really be - the mob mentality is pretty bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.

Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.

Um, there is a video.

DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.

I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.

And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.

Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)

They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.

Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.

[Anonymous]

The police would be wise to check out bike shops in the area. I guarantee they know him. Any avid biker would frequent a bike shop for regular maintenance.