Fairfax County GT/AAP Appeals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:20:59- I would say in but but were the other scores?

NNAT 126 (95%); Cogat 97, 87, 49 (crazy anomaly?)

[Anonymous]

I love this thread b/c is so crazy! Child has in IQ of 130 and does not qualify for the AAP program? That is not really true, right??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love this thread b/c is so crazy! Child has in IQ of 130 and does not qualify for the AAP program? That is not really true, right??

could easily be true. What's the problem? Specifically?

[Anonymous]

Because an iq of 130 is exceptional and is a better indicator than assessment; NNAT or CogAT. So, yes, an iq of 130 is what belongs in aap. Only 2% of the population has an iq of 130 and above. Fcps should only accept Wisc. Scores and do away with assessments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:second grade teacher in a center school. i would say that most everything i read here is wrong. about gbrs, wisc, cogat, and nnat. parents are so worried and other parents are so full of misinformation...

I often wonder who all these people are who make pronouncements about what scores you need and what it takes to get in.

Some sound very authoritative, and may actually be on the selection committee or affiliated with the AAP office but, of course, can't say so.

Some I suspect are paid testers. Would you go to a barber and ask if you need a haircut? Just suspicious of stuff like "oh that's good pp, but what you really need is a WISC. And the people at GMU are very inexperienced and just scary to little kids."

And some are just gadflies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because an iq of 130 is exceptional and is a better indicator than assessment; NNAT or CogAT. So, yes, an iq of 130 is what belongs in aap. Only 2% of the population has an iq of 130 and above. Fcps should only accept Wisc. Scores and do away with assessments.

why? Who says? See above post.

[Anonymous]

Under Virginia law, a gifted child is "special needs" (I know, crazy) and thus entitled to "services" aka AAP. Therefore if your child qualifies by IQ it is discriminatory under the Disability Discrimination Act to refuse services that are needed. So write that appeal! and GL.

[Anonymous]

Thanks PP. 8:24, aap is supposed to be for kids who learn differently. Kids whose iq is in the too 2% are whom app is intended. by default, if you ha e an iq of 130 you do, in fact, learn differently from kids with an iq of 100. It really isn't brain science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Under Virginia law, a gifted child is "special needs" (I know, crazy) and thus entitled to "services" aka AAP. Therefore if your child qualifies by IQ it is discriminatory under the Disability Discrimination Act to refuse services that are needed. So write that appeal! and GL.

Depends on who gave the test and whether it is supported by any other information in the student's file. There are a number of kids with 130+ IQs doing just fine in base schools around here. (I know of 3 right of the top of my head). Kind of difficult to argue a child's needs aren't being met based on that one data point.

[Anonymous]

Really? The NNAT and CogAT are not iq gets, so unless the parents paid for the Wisc. the iq is actually unknown. Note, unlike the NNAT and CogAT, a 130 on the Wisc. is actually represented by only 2% of the population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Under Virginia law, a gifted child is "special needs" (I know, crazy) and thus entitled to "services" aka AAP. Therefore if your child qualifies by IQ it is discriminatory under the Disability Discrimination Act to refuse services that are needed. So write that appeal! and GL.

Depends on who gave the test and whether it is supported by any other information in the student's file. There are a number of kids with 130+ IQs doing just fine in base schools around here. (I know of 3 right of the top of my head). Kind of difficult to argue a child's needs aren't being met based on that one data point.

+1. Somebody making some sense around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really? The NNAT and CogAT are not iq gets, so unless the parents paid for the Wisc. the iq is actually unknown. Note, unlike the NNAT and CogAT, a 130 on the Wisc. is actually represented by only 2% of the population.

so why doesn't the state law or AAP guidelines say 130 IQ and you're in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? The NNAT and CogAT are not iq gets, so unless the parents paid for the Wisc. the iq is actually unknown. Note, unlike the NNAT and CogAT, a 130 on the Wisc. is actually represented by only 2% of the population.

so why doesn't the state law or AAP guidelines say 130 IQ and you're in?

Have you read the state law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really? The NNAT and CogAT are not iq gets, so unless the parents paid for the Wisc. the iq is actually unknown. Note, unlike the NNAT and CogAT, a 130 on the Wisc. is actually represented by only 2% of the population.

so why doesn't the state law or AAP guidelines say 130 IQ and you're in?

Have you read the state law?

It doesn't say 130 IQ and your in.

[Anonymous]

I doubt a 130 IQ is the top 2% of students in Fairfax. A 130 IQ child is bright but no usually so or so out of the norm that s/he can't happily learn in general ed. The dc who need AAP are usually much brighter.