Boundary Review Meetings
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Anonymous
Fortunately, FCPS has data on commute times from Gambrill to Franconia/Springfield Mall. There’s a connector bus stop that services that area and it runs like clockwork. Hunt Valley to Lewis is completely doable. |
Anonymous
Yeah, that bus is not crossing the mixing bowl to Lewis. |
Anonymous
you mean down the parkway and making the left to drive past Best Buy? thats not the mixing bowl. |
Anonymous
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I've gone back and forth reading both the 9/24 slide deck and Reid's summary of the meeting.
I think this is what I come away with: 1. The next-round "Scenario 4" maps were presented to the BRAC for feedback. These maps are not being shared with the general public yet. 2. In connection with the proposed "Scenario 4" changes, the slide deck hones in on specific changes still associated with Scenario 4 that would result in the biggest increases and reductions in travel distance and time. It is possible that Thru did not highlight some changes with larger impacts on distance if that was offset by a lesser or favorable impact on time. If people know for sure that a prior change would have resulted in a significantly greater travel distance compared to their current commute, and it wasn't included in the 9/24 presentation, they can be cautiously optimistic - but not sure - that it's been dropped and won't be part of Scenario 4. 3. The BRAC was asked to provide further feedback on Scenario 4, and that feedback didn't have to be limited to feedback on the transportation analysis. 4. The focus on the transportation analysis at this stage of the process is weird, but may have been deemed necessary to shore up FCPS's argument that it's complying with Policy 8130. 5. The revised Scenario 4 maps will be released on October 10th, and will continue to generate a lot of feedback. |
Anonymous
Their commutes still aren't as long as most of the kids on the far west end of the county. Some kids are making long drives to Westfield, Oakton, and Langley. |
Anonymous
Well, sure, but people chose to live in more populated or less populated areas. And distance and travel time are not the same thing around here. |
Anonymous
That's ironic, since there's a large contingent saying KAA needs to be a neighborhood school to reduce the commutes of kids to Westfield and Oakton. The Langley families with longer commutes take that on voluntarily and kids aren't being moved out of Langley every 4-5 years. |
Anonymous
You are right. And, the "delta" of 12.82 minutes means that what is currently less than a ten minute drive is -at best- a thirty minute drive twice a day. And, that is likely in a car, not on a school bus. KAA needs to be a traditional school. A magnet would be ridiculous. And, KAA would likely be a five minute drive. |
Anonymous
I can't follow your math. Wouldn't the delta suggest that a current 10-minute drive would become a 22 or 23-minute drive, not a "30-minute drive at best"? They aren't factoring KAA into any of this at all. That part of the county could have to deal with boundary changes resulting from (1) the county-wide review, (2) the opening of KAA, and (3) the downsizing of the AAP center at Carson in short order. By the time all that gets worked out they could be talking about the next county-wide review. If I were in charge, I would have prioritized Coates and figured out what the plans were with respect to KAA neighorhood boundaries and AAP centers before considering any other boundary changes. If that meant delaying other changes for a few years during a period of declining FCPS enrollments, so much the better. |
Anonymous
I'm PP and drive that route (66) frequently. It takes 20 minutes at best in a car assuming no traffic. Do you really think it will take that on a school bus? Have you ever driven on I-66? At rush hour? Go there for evening activities--again at rush hour? Go pick your child up from after school activities? They are using google maps' time. That is hopeful, at best. |
Anonymous
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why Langley people are fine with that longer commute… KAA is interesting because I think you have people zoned for Westfield and maybe South Lakes who would rather be moved to KAA, people zoned for Chantilly who are probably neutral, and people zoned for Oakton who are split between not wanting to move due to a perceived decline in quality and wanting to move so their kids can go to a smaller and closer HS. |
Anonymous
Not PP but the school busses do get to use the express lanes. Have passed several during my morning commute. |
Anonymous
Reid is clearly in over her head. I think a number of thoughtful posters on here could have managed this entire thing better-for free! |
Anonymous
So you are basically asserting they are under-estimating the increase in commuting time associated with at least one of the earlier proposals (i.e., to move a small part of Chantilly to Oakton). Got it - I don't have an independent view on who's right here, just an understanding that the area in question is much closer to Chantilly and that no one from Chantilly was asking to be reassigned before this all started. |
Anonymous
I'd add that there are a few BRAC members who also could manage this better, but they are repeatedly rebuffed when requesting information. It's the biggest debacle I've ever seen come out of FCPS in terms of the sheer incompetence of both planning and execution. Apart from Ryan McElveen, who seemed to grasp early on this was beyond the competence of those currently running FCPS to pull off, and perhaps Ricardy Anderson and Melanie Meren, who appear to have come around to understanding what a gigantic mess this is, every current School Board member and Reid should lose their jobs. Certainly neither Ilryong Moon nor Rachna Sizemore-Heizer should get elected to the Board of Supervisors when they are complicit in this shit-show. |