Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving Wayside out of Churchill helps with utilization. How else will they get Churchill below 100%?

Yes, the whole point of Crown is to get the capacity issue under control at the HS (and to some extent MS).

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

RM has Derwood, King Farm, Woodley Gardens, College Gardens, West End...plenty of $1M homes outside of RPES.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

So move Cold Spring to RM.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

RM has Derwood, King Farm, Woodley Gardens, College Gardens, West End...plenty of $1M homes outside of RPES.

RM has half of King Farm currently.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving Wayside out of Churchill helps with utilization. How else will they get Churchill below 100%?

Move some elementary school to Woodward 😂

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that a few decades ago Ritchie Park families went BALLISTIC when they were moved from Wootton to Richard Montgomery because they were almost all walkers and then were bussed instead.

But the board is like hmmm, let’s move Wayside to Wootton and not even consider Ritchie Park right up the street and convert them back to walkers, tells you everything you need to know about how f’d up this entire thing is.

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I am shocked how many of these plans have walkers less than 1/2 mile (way less than the 2 mile) getting bused to other high schools.

I honestly thought they were going to clean up a lot of congestion and all of these plans make it worse for almost every high school.

The biggest shock is that 2 of the 4 options keep the Rio area bused all the way to Wootton instead of walking across Fields to attend Crown HS. Dumbest thing I’ve seen.

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Do people not realize the importance of neighborhood schools. Especially with sports, clubs, walkers, ride sharing, and attending evening school events. And for families that they don’t have a friend living 10 miles away?

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Rio apartments/condos “have” to stay at Wootton to keep the demographics balanced.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that a few decades ago Ritchie Park families went BALLISTIC when they were moved from Wootton to Richard Montgomery because they were almost all walkers and then were bussed instead.

But the board is like hmmm, let’s move Wayside to Wootton and not even consider Ritchie Park right up the street and convert them back to walkers, tells you everything you need to know about how f’d up this entire thing is.

+1

I am shocked how many of these plans have walkers less than 1/2 mile (way less than the 2 mile) getting bused to other high schools.

I honestly thought they were going to clean up a lot of congestion and all of these plans make it worse for almost every high school.

The biggest shock is that 2 of the 4 options keep the Rio area bused all the way to Wootton instead of walking across Fields to attend Crown HS. Dumbest thing I’ve seen.

The other two options are even dumber as so many elementary schools/middle schools have to split articulate. But agree all options are dumbest ever. Can MCPS be competent once?

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Anonymous wrote:Rio apartments/condos “have” to stay at Wootton to keep the demographics balanced.

Not when they put a brand new high school literally across the street.

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Anonymous wrote:Rio apartments/condos “have” to stay at Wootton to keep the demographics balanced.

This is why the elementary boundaries are the ones that need to be re-drawn. Part of Fallsmead is across the street from Wootton and part is across the street from Crown. The elementary school boundaries should all be redrawn and then there will be more sensible high school allocations.

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Anonymous wrote:The irony that a few decades ago Ritchie Park families went BALLISTIC when they were moved from Wootton to Richard Montgomery because they were almost all walkers and then were bussed instead.

But the board is like hmmm, let’s move Wayside to Wootton and not even consider Ritchie Park right up the street and convert them back to walkers, tells you everything you need to know about how f’d up this entire thing is.

+1

I am shocked how many of these plans have walkers less than 1/2 mile (way less than the 2 mile) getting bused to other high schools.

I honestly thought they were going to clean up a lot of congestion and all of these plans make it worse for almost every high school.

The biggest shock is that 2 of the 4 options keep the Rio area bused all the way to Wootton instead of walking across Fields to attend Crown HS. Dumbest thing I’ve seen.

While I'm not a big fan of split articulation, I do see the argument for moving the Fallsmead triangle since they can walk to Crown. What worries me is that if they move the Fallsmead triangle to Crown, that could mean they are choosing one of their pro-split articulation options (options 2 and 4) that also involve things like breaking up Lakewood to send a small group to Crown that most definitely cannot walk there. I'm wondering how much they see these options as grouped together such that making one change will imply others, particularly for schools currently in the same cluster like Fallsmead and Lakewood.

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Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

RM has Derwood, King Farm, Woodley Gardens, College Gardens, West End...plenty of $1M homes outside of RPES.

RM has half of King Farm currently.

The half with the pricy single family homes.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travilah and dufief should go to QO and Kentlands should go to Crown with all the other City of Gaithersburg schools.

That is very logical. North Potomac, Travilah, and Darnestown go to Ridgeview / QO. The City of Gaithersburg schools go to Lakelands / Crown. Falls Grove and Ritchie Park to Wooton.

Not gonna happen.

FG is close to Crown. RPES bring upper income to RMHS if FG moves to Crown.

FG is actually closer to Wootton but only about 1/2 a mile. But unless they take out Travilah or Dufief the traffic would be terrible on the one lane Wootton Parkway.

I think they just need to move Horizon Hill neighborhood to the very undercrowded Cold Spring ES so they can be walkers and leave the rest of RPES going into RM. But moving Wayside to Wootton before considering Ritchie Park, which half would be walkers to Wootton, is a terrible idea

They are not gong to change ES boundaries no matter how much people keep wishing for it.

Pulling Wayside past 3-4 other ES that go to other MS/HS to a further high school is terrible. Just move all of Ritchie Park to Wootton then. Half of them can walk to Wootton.

At least make it make sense.

There are four factors that they will look at, one of which is demographic mix. Moving RPES to Wootton goes against the demographic mix for SES. It's pulling an UMC out of RMHS, which they won't do.

BTW, I live in the RPES cluster. They won't move us. I'd be shocked if they do.

Besides Twinbrook, all the other feeder schools to RM are MC and UMC. And they are considering moving FG and King Farm out which are the two priciest neighborhoods that go to RM. So they don’t care that much. And moving Wayside instead of RPES makes Wootton more Asian and more money. So all against their demographics. So stop using that. Walkers and less buses and traffic in this county, should be the highest priority anyway.

FG goes to RPES. I would not call KG area UMC. The wealthiest ES is RPES. Look at the FARMS rate of the ES feeders to JWMS. RPES has a very low FARMs rate compared to the rest of the ES.

They are not going to pull RPES out of RMHS. That's a pipe dream. Again, I live in that cluster.

RM has Derwood, King Farm, Woodley Gardens, College Gardens, West End...plenty of $1M homes outside of RPES.

RM has half of King Farm currently.

The half with the pricy single family homes.

Nope. Pricey single family homes — both detached and attached — on both sides of the neighborhood.