Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.

Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

A settler colonial state never gave sovereignty to its colonized people without some type of pushback and usually it involved some massacres, genocide or other violent process.

Israel is the last remaining settler colonial state in the world originating from Europe.

And…you’re part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

Ah. You’re one of those.

So your theory is that we’re going to somehow force a nuclear-armed nation to (peaceably) accept its own demise?

What’s your plan to accomplish this? Unicorn magic?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

Ah. You’re one of those.

So your theory is that we’re going to somehow force a nuclear-armed nation to (peaceably) accept its own demise?

What’s your plan to accomplish this? Unicorn magic?

I would be happy with withdrawing all US funding, and seeing how Israel survives. Let them accept the own fate that the created.

But if you're a proponent of a two-state solution, what do you think of a Palestinian state acquiring nuclear arms? Or would they not be allowed to? Is one just in the possession, but not the other?

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

You can't force two people who hate/fear each other to live together. Name one state in MENA where Jews are treated well. It won't happen until the Arab world learns to treat Jews as equals.

Jews were living successful lives in numerous nations in the middle east, but the Zionist used violence, bombings and secret agreements with foreign governments to force them out because they didn't want to leave.

https://mondoweiss.net/2023/07/zionism-is-an-ashkenazi-thing-how-zionism-engineered-the-expulsion-of-iraqs-arab-jews/

The Mizrahi Jews are the most rightward leaning demographic in Israel. They have living memory of life as a minority in MENA, and it’s existential for them to never be a minority again.

The Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who comprise most of the Jewish left.

Doesn’t speak well to how the Jews were treated in MENA.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

Ah. You’re one of those.

So your theory is that we’re going to somehow force a nuclear-armed nation to (peaceably) accept its own demise?

What’s your plan to accomplish this? Unicorn magic?

I would be happy with withdrawing all US funding, and seeing how Israel survives. Let them accept the own fate that the created.

But if you're a proponent of a two-state solution, what do you think of a Palestinian state acquiring nuclear arms? Or would they not be allowed to? Is one just in the possession, but not the other?

Zero percent chance that pulling US funding would lead to Israeli acceptance of a 1 state solution.

However, as we’ve seen on multiple occasions, US leverage has led Israel to propose 2 state solutions. I strongly favor doing so again.

As for nuclear weapons, I’m opposed to ANY additional nations acquiring nuclear capability, so that’s a no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

They can stay. It just isn't hospitable there. You asked what we can do. We can't convince these governments to do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

Lebanon is able to successfully handle three religious sects by mandating the president is Christian, the prime minister Sunni Muslim, and the speaker of parliament Shia Muslim. That’s in their constitution.

Israel/Palestine also have three religions among them. It’s possible to have the same arrangement in a one state solution: Jewish president, Muslim PM, Christian speaker etc.

As for it being the “Jewish state”, it cannot be a Jewish state if it’s a democracy. It needs to make a state religion and hold elections like Iran if that’s the case

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Economist is hardly a pro-Palestinian publication. Quite the opposite. If it is saying the death toll is closer to 100,000, then that is saying something.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/middle-east-and-africa/2025/05/08/how-many-people-have-died-in-gaza

It’s not saying anything but they acknowledge they don’t know.

Right. Because Gaza is poor and has no heavy machinery or equipment, when buildings are bombed, bodies stay under the rubble for months. That’s why they don’t know the exact number of dead. It’s because there are so many bodies stuck under the rubble.

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

Even if it’s 1/2 of the reports (which I doubt)-that’s a whole lot of dead women and children in Gaza. Plus the foreign aid workers who the IDF accidentally killed as they tried to distribute food and medicine. So in your world the lives of 20k Palestinians are worth much less than 1,125 dead Israelis? There is a name for people who think that way….

I mean, the IDF targeted and bombed the World Central Kitchen workers THREE TIMES. The first strike didn’t kill everyone, so they got out of vans and fled and they were ALL ASSASINATED. And yet we as a loose group of Westerners did NOTHING to seek something like justice or even transparent answered for our nationals, who were there simply to provide food.

I used to be in these threads and the way pro-Netanyahu trolls live here just disgusts me. Nothing is enough. The goal is to kill all Palestinians in Gaza and pretend to have a moral high ground to have the US and other Western nations supply young soldiers, endless money and limitless weapons to Israel. Why? When is enough enough?

Unadulterated nonsense. This started with an evil act of terror on innocent civilians. It’s not pretending to have the moral high ground - no people capable of such atrocities as October 7 could have ever claimed it.

An evil act of terror that used pickup trucks and hot air balloons? Israel couldve stopped it and refused. They stopped missiles from Iran but couldn’t stop men without aircraft taking people by hand and foot? Israel couldve been at the Gaza border stopping the trucks Within seconds. Israel’s army commanders are also puzzled as to why Netanyahu put a pause to that.

Netanyahu wanted captives taken because he wanted a war to avoid going to jail or resignation.

Until Israelis face that truth, Hamas won’t be eliminated. Netanyahu wants them there

This.

Hamas is essentially an arm of Netanyahu's plan.

I find it insane that anyone thinks Hamas carried out the events of October 7th without complicity of the Israeli government.

They won’t admit it to us non jews but they know Netanyahu is a straight up loser. It’s kinda like the Palestinians who don’t want to condemn Hamas. Nobody wants to admit their guy is the jackass

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

The Arab countries should take them in. They have plenty of land and can build up to be stronger nations that can then be more equal with Israel.

Why should Palestinians be forced to leave their home and go elsewhere, in the first place? Because the zionists think god gave them the land thousands of years ago?

DP. No one should leave.

2 states. It’s way past time for the extremists on both f****** sides to accept this.

Israel will never allow a sovereign Palestinian state. Ever.

Carving up people into different religious nationalists doesn't work. The only solution is one state, no supremacy, and learning to live together.

This is an incredibly inane (and sadly oft-repeated) argument.

Your theory is that Israel is unwilling to live next to the Palestinians but somehow magically is MORE likely to accept a single state, where Jews are a minority and have to live under a Palestinian controlled government.

Daft.

Oh, I didn't say at all what Israel is "willing" to. Israel doesn't want either option - a unified 100% democratic state (called something other than 'Israel'), OR a two-state solution. Israel doesn't want anything that involves compromise or sharing or peace (for anyone but their own imported people).

Ah. You’re one of those.

So your theory is that we’re going to somehow force a nuclear-armed nation to (peaceably) accept its own demise?

What’s your plan to accomplish this? Unicorn magic?

I would be happy with withdrawing all US funding, and seeing how Israel survives. Let them accept the own fate that the created.

But if you're a proponent of a two-state solution, what do you think of a Palestinian state acquiring nuclear arms? Or would they not be allowed to? Is one just in the possession, but not the other?

Zero percent chance that pulling US funding would lead to Israeli acceptance of a 1 state solution.

However, as we’ve seen on multiple occasions, US leverage has led Israel to propose 2 state solutions. I strongly favor doing so again.

As for nuclear weapons, I’m opposed to ANY additional nations acquiring nuclear capability, so that’s a no.

And there's a zero percent chance Israel would shut down all the illegal settlements. Have you not been paying attention in the past year and a half, on Netanyahu's plans for Gaza?

We need to stop all funding. Israel hasn't been remotely interested in a two state solution for decades.

[Anonymous]

Both Netanyahu and Hamas will fall on their own swords with silent coups from the Israeli military and Mossad for King Bibi , and a cabal of Gazans will stand up and take out Hamas. Both groups have a history of frictions and party infighting anyway. Sinwar himself completed 10/7 as a coup against Hamas to take over control of it with his brother. The billionaire Hamas in Qatar didn’t know 10/7 was even going to happen because Sinwar was a lone wolf with his own guys.

Something similar to this has already happened in Israel and it was expedited last year when Biden spoke to Benny Gantz to piss Bibi off. Mossad considered joining the demonstrators to take out Bibi in 2023.

Eventually both Hamas and Netanyahu will lose their Vice grip on power due to internal power struggles. Both of their falls will happen at the same time just as their ascents did

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

Even if it’s 1/2 of the reports (which I doubt)-that’s a whole lot of dead women and children in Gaza. Plus the foreign aid workers who the IDF accidentally killed as they tried to distribute food and medicine. So in your world the lives of 20k Palestinians are worth much less than 1,125 dead Israelis? There is a name for people who think that way….

I mean, the IDF targeted and bombed the World Central Kitchen workers THREE TIMES. The first strike didn’t kill everyone, so they got out of vans and fled and they were ALL ASSASINATED. And yet we as a loose group of Westerners did NOTHING to seek something like justice or even transparent answered for our nationals, who were there simply to provide food.

I used to be in these threads and the way pro-Netanyahu trolls live here just disgusts me. Nothing is enough. The goal is to kill all Palestinians in Gaza and pretend to have a moral high ground to have the US and other Western nations supply young soldiers, endless money and limitless weapons to Israel. Why? When is enough enough?

Unadulterated nonsense. This started with an evil act of terror on innocent civilians. It’s not pretending to have the moral high ground - no people capable of such atrocities as October 7 could have ever claimed it.

An evil act of terror that used pickup trucks and hot air balloons? Israel couldve stopped it and refused. They stopped missiles from Iran but couldn’t stop men without aircraft taking people by hand and foot? Israel couldve been at the Gaza border stopping the trucks Within seconds. Israel’s army commanders are also puzzled as to why Netanyahu put a pause to that.

Netanyahu wanted captives taken because he wanted a war to avoid going to jail or resignation.

Until Israelis face that truth, Hamas won’t be eliminated. Netanyahu wants them there

This.

Hamas is essentially an arm of Netanyahu's plan.

I find it insane that anyone thinks Hamas carried out the events of October 7th without complicity of the Israeli government.

They won’t admit it to us non jews but they know Netanyahu is a straight up loser. It’s kinda like the Palestinians who don’t want to condemn Hamas. Nobody wants to admit their guy is the jackass

Plenty of Jews, including Israeli Jews, openly admit they hate Bibi. There were and are regular protests against him in Israel.