Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

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Anonymous wrote:The Supreme Court has asked for a response to the government's appeal and has stayed the court order. Response is due tomorrow. Which should be pretty easy, just refile the same doc with changed headers. They can also add in some arguments addressing the novel arguments that the government has [attempted to] raise on appeal. If they are feeling generous.

I wonder how many amici briefs the Supreme Court will receive tomorrow?

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SCOTUS just paused the midnight deadline.

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It's not terribly surprising that the Supreme Court would want to seriously take this up with responses etc. But due process is so easy. They could have left it to the 4th Circuit.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, so let's go with the PP's premise that mistakes will be made. WHY is the administration ACTIVELY fighting to rectify the error?

+1 exactly, if it’s mistake, bring him back, give him his due process and deport him without sending him to prison.

I’m guessing it’s because dude is already dead or has been seriously injured. There’s no reason not to try to get him back. We do prisoner exchanges all the time.

He is not a prisoner

He’s being held in a prison. He’s a prisoner. Sorry you don’t like reality

He is in a prison in his OWN country. If we do a swap, do we keep him in prison here?

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

See, this is exactly what I’m afraid of. People who hear snippets about deportation and crackdowns, but never the whole story. They’re grateful for enforcement of immigration laws and think, great, we’re making some progress! They hear about one, single administrative error and think, oh well, that’s just the cost of doing business, nothing’s perfect.

This administration is more about theater than justice or protection of American citizens. They’re putting on a show and they want to shock and awe people. Look how tough we are! Look at these results! They said they were going to round up the worst of the worst first. They said you have to get the bad guys first. 75% of these men not only had never been convicted of anything in the US, but they’d never even been arrested for anything. Our government can’t produce any evidence of wrongdoing for 3/4 of them, but we’ve labeled them terrorists and sent them to CECOT, which houses the *actual* worst of the worst from El Salvador.

You think Mr. Garcia’s case was an administrative error, but don’t care because he’s probably MS-13, and hey, nothing’s perfect, but make no mistake: this administration is not striving for perfection and falling short just short of it. They weren’t going after the worst criminals. They harvested low hanging fruit and called it a success. They’re putting on a show for you and they’re completely indifferent to the actual results. All they’re looking for is the public thinking they’re accomplishing something. It’s the exact same approach they’re taking to every governmental agency. They’re not cutting out waste; they’re funneling it in different directions. They’re not increasing efficiency; they’re dismantling the very framework that makes the bureaucracy run. But none of that matters because we see them shaking things up!

He may well be putting on a show, and I’m not convinced that this is the best and most efficient way of doing things, but the numbers at the border don’t lie. Like it or not, it’s working.

What were the numbers before these infamous plane trips?

This theater was not needed. It is only needed now to threaten all Americans with possible unreviewable exile. In "error".

This guy is not and never was American. He is a citizen of El Salvador. He is back in El Salvador.

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The fact that more people are not upset by this really makes me lose a lot of faith in our humanity.... I mean I see a few posts on social media but literally no one I know is outraged by this

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I think the guy is dead and that is why the administration is fighting so hard to keep him there

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Anonymous wrote:SCOTUS just paused the midnight deadline.

balls and strike, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that more people are not upset by this really makes me lose a lot of faith in our humanity.... I mean I see a few posts on social media but literally no one I know is outraged by this

I agree! I don’t know how anyone in this admin sleeps at night! To think if this happened to one of one’s own, how unjust, unacceptable, infuriating…!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the guy is dead and that is why the administration is fighting so hard to keep him there

They are not fighting to keep him there. They have zero right to demand ANY country send one of its citizens to the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

See, this is exactly what I’m afraid of. People who hear snippets about deportation and crackdowns, but never the whole story. They’re grateful for enforcement of immigration laws and think, great, we’re making some progress! They hear about one, single administrative error and think, oh well, that’s just the cost of doing business, nothing’s perfect.

This administration is more about theater than justice or protection of American citizens. They’re putting on a show and they want to shock and awe people. Look how tough we are! Look at these results! They said they were going to round up the worst of the worst first. They said you have to get the bad guys first. 75% of these men not only had never been convicted of anything in the US, but they’d never even been arrested for anything. Our government can’t produce any evidence of wrongdoing for 3/4 of them, but we’ve labeled them terrorists and sent them to CECOT, which houses the *actual* worst of the worst from El Salvador.

You think Mr. Garcia’s case was an administrative error, but don’t care because he’s probably MS-13, and hey, nothing’s perfect, but make no mistake: this administration is not striving for perfection and falling short just short of it. They weren’t going after the worst criminals. They harvested low hanging fruit and called it a success. They’re putting on a show for you and they’re completely indifferent to the actual results. All they’re looking for is the public thinking they’re accomplishing something. It’s the exact same approach they’re taking to every governmental agency. They’re not cutting out waste; they’re funneling it in different directions. They’re not increasing efficiency; they’re dismantling the very framework that makes the bureaucracy run. But none of that matters because we see them shaking things up!

He may well be putting on a show, and I’m not convinced that this is the best and most efficient way of doing things, but the numbers at the border don’t lie. Like it or not, it’s working.

What were the numbers before these infamous plane trips?

This theater was not needed. It is only needed now to threaten all Americans with possible unreviewable exile. In "error".

This guy is not and never was American. He is a citizen of El Salvador. He is back in El Salvador.

Yes, this guy is not American. But I am. Who is going to object if the Trump administration picks me up and sends me to a prison in El Salvador? Not you, it seems.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the guy is dead and that is why the administration is fighting so hard to keep him there

They are not fighting to keep him there. They have zero right to demand ANY country send one of its citizens to the USA.

Wrong. Do you have any thoughts in your head or do you just parrot what the alt-righties say?

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

See, this is exactly what I’m afraid of. People who hear snippets about deportation and crackdowns, but never the whole story. They’re grateful for enforcement of immigration laws and think, great, we’re making some progress! They hear about one, single administrative error and think, oh well, that’s just the cost of doing business, nothing’s perfect.

This administration is more about theater than justice or protection of American citizens. They’re putting on a show and they want to shock and awe people. Look how tough we are! Look at these results! They said they were going to round up the worst of the worst first. They said you have to get the bad guys first. 75% of these men not only had never been convicted of anything in the US, but they’d never even been arrested for anything. Our government can’t produce any evidence of wrongdoing for 3/4 of them, but we’ve labeled them terrorists and sent them to CECOT, which houses the *actual* worst of the worst from El Salvador.

You think Mr. Garcia’s case was an administrative error, but don’t care because he’s probably MS-13, and hey, nothing’s perfect, but make no mistake: this administration is not striving for perfection and falling short just short of it. They weren’t going after the worst criminals. They harvested low hanging fruit and called it a success. They’re putting on a show for you and they’re completely indifferent to the actual results. All they’re looking for is the public thinking they’re accomplishing something. It’s the exact same approach they’re taking to every governmental agency. They’re not cutting out waste; they’re funneling it in different directions. They’re not increasing efficiency; they’re dismantling the very framework that makes the bureaucracy run. But none of that matters because we see them shaking things up!

He may well be putting on a show, and I’m not convinced that this is the best and most efficient way of doing things, but the numbers at the border don’t lie. Like it or not, it’s working.

The numbers at the border and unlawfully sending a man back to the exact place he is not supposed to be are two separate issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that more people are not upset by this really makes me lose a lot of faith in our humanity.... I mean I see a few posts on social media but literally no one I know is outraged by this

I agree! I don’t know how anyone in this admin sleeps at night! To think if this happened to one of one’s own, how unjust, unacceptable, infuriating…!!!!!

+1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

Why did you Democrats create this open border sh*t show?

It turns out, governing is hard. MAGA is experiencing this but blaming Biden for it rather than turning their brains on and realizing that this is a large country with big issues and lots of laws to deal with lots of situations.

Ignoring all of it and saying "Deport 100 people, don't bother me with details about who they are or whether they are removable!" leads to disasters. As we see now.

DP. Problem is, it is a disaster but really only affecting a few people who are the deportee and their family members.
A few of these mistakes, maybe even a few hundred of these mistakes, are but a grain of sand in the Sahara, in comparison to the number of people who have been stopped from coming in at the border and/or lawfully deported.
Unfortunate but I do think the majority are ok with this as the cost of getting things done.

This is not the cost of getting things done if you expect competence. Do you? The mistake we have seen in the last three months are ASTONISHING. The lack of accountability is SHOCKING. Why do you accept such incompetence from our elected officials????

Because I know how extremely complex things are, and our systems work most of the time, but nothing can be perfect.
We accept those kinds of risks all the time. We drive on roads knowing there’s a small chance of getting into a fatal accident. We get medical treatments knowing there’s a small chance of something going wrong. But we don’t stay at home and do nothing because those risks exist.

Activists would have us believe we shouldn’t do any immigration enforcement because mistakes can happen, but pragmatists recognize that can’t be a reason to stay home and do nothing.

See, this is exactly what I’m afraid of. People who hear snippets about deportation and crackdowns, but never the whole story. They’re grateful for enforcement of immigration laws and think, great, we’re making some progress! They hear about one, single administrative error and think, oh well, that’s just the cost of doing business, nothing’s perfect.

This administration is more about theater than justice or protection of American citizens. They’re putting on a show and they want to shock and awe people. Look how tough we are! Look at these results! They said they were going to round up the worst of the worst first. They said you have to get the bad guys first. 75% of these men not only had never been convicted of anything in the US, but they’d never even been arrested for anything. Our government can’t produce any evidence of wrongdoing for 3/4 of them, but we’ve labeled them terrorists and sent them to CECOT, which houses the *actual* worst of the worst from El Salvador.

You think Mr. Garcia’s case was an administrative error, but don’t care because he’s probably MS-13, and hey, nothing’s perfect, but make no mistake: this administration is not striving for perfection and falling short just short of it. They weren’t going after the worst criminals. They harvested low hanging fruit and called it a success. They’re putting on a show for you and they’re completely indifferent to the actual results. All they’re looking for is the public thinking they’re accomplishing something. It’s the exact same approach they’re taking to every governmental agency. They’re not cutting out waste; they’re funneling it in different directions. They’re not increasing efficiency; they’re dismantling the very framework that makes the bureaucracy run. But none of that matters because we see them shaking things up!

He may well be putting on a show, and I’m not convinced that this is the best and most efficient way of doing things, but the numbers at the border don’t lie. Like it or not, it’s working.

What were the numbers before these infamous plane trips?

This theater was not needed. It is only needed now to threaten all Americans with possible unreviewable exile. In "error".

This guy is not and never was American. He is a citizen of El Salvador. He is back in El Salvador.

The point is that under Team Trump, Bondi, Noem and Homan could snatch up your kid, yes YOUR kid) and ship him off to El Salvador without any opportunity to show a birth certificate, passport, social security card, call you, without anything. And they could do so on the basis of his baseball cap and an anonymous allegation that he affiliated himself with a gang. And there would be nothing you can do about it, according to the government. That is a position you appear to be in favor of. So hug your kid and say bye.