COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been three years, all schools have been back open for 2.5-3 years. Why are you still obsessing over it? If it was that traumatizing for you, seek mental health treatment.

Funny enough, its the people that took COVID seriously that need mental health treatment:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/people-who-stuck-by-uk-covid-rules-have-worst-mental-health-says-survey

I suspect it's more correlation than causation. Anecdotally, the people I know who were most freaked out about covid had pre-existing mental health issues, such as anxiety.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Even outdoor church services were shut down. This isn’t a convincing excuse for the hypocrisy we all saw.

Yup. The public health officials that supported the BLM protests with an open letter, specifically said in that letter that they were opposed to any other type of protests, such as ones opposed to the lockdown measures.

That's pretty much the definition of hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been three years, all schools have been back open for 2.5-3 years. Why are you still obsessing over it? If it was that traumatizing for you, seek mental health treatment.

Funny enough, its the people that took COVID seriously that need mental health treatment:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/people-who-stuck-by-uk-covid-rules-have-worst-mental-health-says-survey

I suspect it's more correlation than causation. Anecdotally, the people I know who were most freaked out about covid had pre-existing mental health issues, such as anxiety.

Maybe partly, but that doesn't change the lesson to be learned. Telling people that they should isolate themselves, avoid in-person interactions with people who might offer support, give up activities that involve gatherings, and give up their healthy activities (gyms, sports, church) was bound to be particularly damaging to people prone to anxiety and depression.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been three years, all schools have been back open for 2.5-3 years. Why are you still obsessing over it? If it was that traumatizing for you, seek mental health treatment.

Funny enough, its the people that took COVID seriously that need mental health treatment:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/people-who-stuck-by-uk-covid-rules-have-worst-mental-health-says-survey

I suspect it's more correlation than causation. Anecdotally, the people I know who were most freaked out about covid had pre-existing mental health issues, such as anxiety.

Hopefully one of the lessons learned from COVID is to not let people with mental health issues dictate policy.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Kids couldn't go to the playground, but hordes of people could gather en masse for BLM protests. With the explicit permission of public health officials.

See why some of us are jaded?

My kids went to the park and met their friends there the entire time during school closures. They also rotated houses each Weds when there were no online classes. Not sure why you’re jaded?!

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

The “discourse on the left”?! Unreal. Bet you stormed the Capitol too.

I’m on the left and my tween kids had a friend pod and was outside often during the pandemic. I don’t remember any bullying for my decisions at all. We’re there folks who decided not to let their kids out, yes. Did I think their decision was questionable? Yes. But like many I know to mind my own business because everyone has different risk tolerance.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

The “discourse on the left”?! Unreal. Bet you stormed the Capitol too.

I’m on the left and my tween kids had a friend pod and was outside often during the pandemic. I don’t remember any bullying for my decisions at all. We’re there folks who decided not to let their kids out, yes. Did I think their decision was questionable? Yes. But like many I know to mind my own business because everyone has different risk tolerance.

Do you remember when we were told not to form pods because it was inequitable and would contribute to community spread and prevent schools from reopening? Do you remember when we were told not to allow our kids to play sports for the same reason? That happened.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

The “discourse on the left”?! Unreal. Bet you stormed the Capitol too.

I’m on the left and my tween kids had a friend pod and was outside often during the pandemic. I don’t remember any bullying for my decisions at all. We’re there folks who decided not to let their kids out, yes. Did I think their decision was questionable? Yes. But like many I know to mind my own business because everyone has different risk tolerance.

Do you remember when we were told not to form pods because it was inequitable and would contribute to community spread and prevent schools from reopening? Do you remember when we were told not to allow our kids to play sports for the same reason? That happened.

You really had to “fight against the system” to give your kid a normal childhood. Fortunately, my kids were in an FCPS ES that was able to give them four days in-person so that helped quite a bit with normalcy. Of course, they were playing sports from summer 2020, hopping the playground fence, indoor dining, family vacations, etc. so they had it pretty normal despite the random rules being bandied about.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been three years, all schools have been back open for 2.5-3 years. Why are you still obsessing over it? If it was that traumatizing for you, seek mental health treatment.

Funny enough, its the people that took COVID seriously that need mental health treatment:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/people-who-stuck-by-uk-covid-rules-have-worst-mental-health-says-survey

I suspect it's more correlation than causation. Anecdotally, the people I know who were most freaked out about covid had pre-existing mental health issues, such as anxiety.

Hopefully one of the lessons learned from COVID is to not let people with mental health issues dictate policy.

Unfortunately, the type of people who go into public health seem to be pretty…odd. To put it nicely.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

The “discourse on the left”?! Unreal. Bet you stormed the Capitol too.

I’m on the left and my tween kids had a friend pod and was outside often during the pandemic. I don’t remember any bullying for my decisions at all. We’re there folks who decided not to let their kids out, yes. Did I think their decision was questionable? Yes. But like many I know to mind my own business because everyone has different risk tolerance.

Do you remember when we were told not to form pods because it was inequitable and would contribute to community spread and prevent schools from reopening? Do you remember when we were told not to allow our kids to play sports for the same reason? That happened.

You really had to “fight against the system” to give your kid a normal childhood. Fortunately, my kids were in an FCPS ES that was able to give them four days in-person so that helped quite a bit with normalcy. Of course, they were playing sports from summer 2020, hopping the playground fence, indoor dining, family vacations, etc. so they had it pretty normal despite the random rules being bandied about.

That was us, too. I went don’t to our local park in DC at night and cut down the signs and zip ties they used to lock the gate to the playground. DC put them back a few times, but people in our neighborhood kept taking them down, so they gave up eventually.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

You know that PP is one of the first to cry about righting past wrongs and doing better. Unless that PP is on the wrong side of history, like now. Then it's "OMG stop talking about it!". So hypocritical.

Learning from history and suffering continued personalized trauma from it are two very different things. When you're lashing out at others, making false and hyperbolic claims about who did what at what time, and generally still being an ahole on the internet, you are in "suffering continued personalized trauma" territory, not in "learning from history" territory.

I bid you peace.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

In MoCo we were advised by the county to continue outdoor masking until we were vaccinated. Heaven forbid you passed someone on the trail without a mask on, best case you got a death stare, worst case you were yelled out (not that you could understand what they were saying through their double masks). If you didn't live in an area like this, consider yourself lucky!

Ooh, advised. Death stare! Yelled at! Obviously: absolute nightmares and unconscionable infringements on your personal liberties.

I live here, BTW. Didn't find any of this that hard to manage.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

LOL

AFT put out a detailed written plan for safely reopening schools in April of 2020. Why didn't you get behind it at the time if you wanted schools open? (Answer with care; your animosity for teachers' unions no matter what they say or do may be about to be on irrevocable display!)

The plan is here BTW: https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/media/2020/covid19_reopen-america-schools.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

LOL

AFT put out a detailed written plan for safely reopening schools in April of 2020. Why didn't you get behind it at the time if you wanted schools open? (Answer with care; your animosity for teachers' unions no matter what they say or do may be about to be on irrevocable display!)

The plan is here BTW: https://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/media/2020/covid19_reopen-america-schools.pdf

absurd. the teachers unions adamantly opposed reopening under any attainable conditions.