I have no ax to grind with St. Albans either way, but I don't think it's fair to attack a general (non-student specific) publication of matriculations. True -- St. Albans and Sidwell need publish it less than anyone b/c they are presumed to have outstanding placements -- whether or not perception matches reality. But for almost all other privates parents at some level often want to know this information as it is part of the equation of paying $35,000 per year for high school It is certainly not the only reason or the primary reason many parents select privates, but it is a relevant data point.
I think student specific lists (I've heard some all girls schools used to do that) are terrible -- contributing to pressure, competitive environment and humiliation for those disappointed with their options. |
It seems pretty clear that an aggregate 5-year list is a far cry from a yearly list published by the school with names and colleges, and, to my mind, does not justify people discussing the college choices of specific kids (particularly in a dismissive/critical way). |
It only justifies discussing specific college choices in a self congratulatory way? |
Actually, the college choice not the specific young men was being discussed. Then, there were folks from STA's community with personal knowledge about the students who chimed in defending them and their special reasons for attending. I'm sure applying from STA, they were also accepted elsewhere. If this school was a SLAC or Ivy there would have been chest thumping not the defensive posture. A pp, possibly a STA parent/student posted the name of the school initially, not clear for what reason. However, someone mentioned that the matriculation list was in the commencement program (?). |
Not picking out any one student. But, simply go to the particular school's "Common Data Set". It provides a wealth of information about their acceptances/rejections/test scores etc. You will see the legacy admissions. There's no doubt they play a role. Schools do not deny this. |
Sure, I've seen college info suggesting that 10-15% of many colleges' students are legacies. I've got no dispute that legacies make up a significant portion of each college's enrollment. What I don't understand is how anyone here can point to any local high school and claim to know for sure that a big portion of the high school's college placement success is from legacies who otherwise would not deserve admission. |
PP because we know the kids and we know the stats. Very simple. |
What kids and what stats are you talking about? You can't mean you know all the SAT/AP scores and grades of all kids graduating from STA, and which of them are legacies to which colleges, can you? That seems unlikely to me. |
Who are you one of the school's college counselors? |
For any of you snobby ass DCUM readers who chose to turn your nose up at the two STA grads who are attending Indiana, please take a flying leap off of Marriott Hall. These two young men are of the highest character and displayed on the athletic fields and in the life of the school consistently positive leadership. Having seen these young men as teammates and friends of my sons, it makes me furious to see their choice of college considered "disappointing" in some way. Both young men had several options and considered Indiana to be the best fit on multiple levels. Those of you who sneered at their college choice would be absolutely delighted to have either of these young men date your daughters. Of course, you may only let your daughters date boys from "certain" colleges. Let us hear how that strategy plays out.
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No one is referring to IU.
Reference is to top SLAC and IVY. |
Urban myth. Not even top preps have that many. |
One of the things about legacy is how academics are passed on by genetics to many children. Dad is Ivy, met mom at Ivy, married and surprise! DC is smart. |
Not always true! |
Okay...we get that you feel compelled to protect your son. Certainly, they had several options and chose Indiana because it was the best fit. Again it's not about the young men, it's an inquiry into the quality of the school. This thread has opened my eyes about Indiana-Bloomington. |