Disappointed by TJ decision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure Cooper wasn't a big feeder this year.

It likely sent more kids than all but 1 or 2 schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

I agree they shouldn't be hating on URMs however, saying that white students benefited from the new system is false. There are no more white students now than there were with the old system. It's remained completely flat. Let's try and stick with facts instead of trying to sew racial Animus .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

I agree they shouldn't be hating on URMs however, saying that white students benefited from the new system is false. There are no more white students now than there were with the old system. It's remained completely flat. Let's try and stick with facts instead of trying to sew racial Animus .

To be fair, a decent number of Hispanic students are white kids with ancestors from Spain. They're not necessarily latinos or of any native central/South American heritage. Using Hispanic as a URM category is just a way to prop up white people while pretending to be diverse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

It is not 1.5% of those seats that a school is guaranteed. They are guaranteed seats for 1.5% of their 8th grade class. 400 8th graders means only 6 seats, about 1% of the 550 TJ seats.
Loudoun and other counties have their own share of the seats guaranteed, with these schools also getting 1.5% minimum quota. Not sure how the waitlist works. It appears to be not school-specific, in Fairfax or outside Fairfax, but perhaps it is county specific.

It's not. According to the Admissions Policy, spaces that are declined become unallocated and the waitlist is not school-specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

It is not 1.5% of those seats that a school is guaranteed. They are guaranteed seats for 1.5% of their 8th grade class. 400 8th graders means only 6 seats, about 1% of the 550 TJ seats.
Loudoun and other counties have their own share of the seats guaranteed, with these schools also getting 1.5% minimum quota. Not sure how the waitlist works. It appears to be not school-specific, in Fairfax or outside Fairfax, but perhaps it is county specific.

It's not. According to the Admissions Policy, spaces that are declined become unallocated and the waitlist is not school-specific.

I should qualify - counties/jurisdictions are still limited in terms of the total number of students they are permitted, but schools are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

I agree they shouldn't be hating on URMs however, saying that white students benefited from the new system is false. There are no more white students now than there were with the old system. It's remained completely flat. Let's try and stick with facts instead of trying to sew racial Animus .

To be fair, a decent number of Hispanic students are white kids with ancestors from Spain. They're not necessarily latinos or of any native central/South American heritage. Using Hispanic as a URM category is just a way to prop up white people while pretending to be diverse.

This was much more the case prior to the admissions changes than since. It is a fair criticism of the number of Hispanic students present before the changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

It is not 1.5% of those seats that a school is guaranteed. They are guaranteed seats for 1.5% of their 8th grade class. 400 8th graders means only 6 seats, about 1% of the 550 TJ seats.
Loudoun and other counties have their own share of the seats guaranteed, with these schools also getting 1.5% minimum quota. Not sure how the waitlist works. It appears to be not school-specific, in Fairfax or outside Fairfax, but perhaps it is county specific.

It's not. According to the Admissions Policy, spaces that are declined become unallocated and the waitlist is not school-specific.

I should qualify - counties/jurisdictions are still limited in terms of the total number of students they are permitted, but schools are not.

But are the counties guaranteed their number of seats? If someone in Arlington declines, will that seat be given to someone in Arlington first?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

where did you get this information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

It is not 1.5% of those seats that a school is guaranteed. They are guaranteed seats for 1.5% of their 8th grade class. 400 8th graders means only 6 seats, about 1% of the 550 TJ seats.
Loudoun and other counties have their own share of the seats guaranteed, with these schools also getting 1.5% minimum quota. Not sure how the waitlist works. It appears to be not school-specific, in Fairfax or outside Fairfax, but perhaps it is county specific.

It's not. According to the Admissions Policy, spaces that are declined become unallocated and the waitlist is not school-specific.

I should qualify - counties/jurisdictions are still limited in terms of the total number of students they are permitted, but schools are not.

But are the counties guaranteed their number of seats? If someone in Arlington declines, will that seat be given to someone in Arlington first?

No. But if Arlington has reached its limit, which rarely happens, the seat will not go to a student from Arlington. The only jurisdiction that does reach their limit regularly is Loudoun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

Statistics also confirm alien landings in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

Statistics also confirm alien landings in DC.

Sorry that you don't like facts. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

where did you get this information?

It was published by FCPS a while back in a spreadsheet format in response to a FOIA request. Not sure where it lives now, but year over year the number for c/o 2024 was TS (meaning less than 10) and the number for c/o 2025 was 36.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

Why you hating on the URM’s, they aren’t the ones who benefited most from the new system. It was the white kids. You are just too busy kissing white a$$ to call them out out. The URM populations didn’t grow much under the new admissions process.

Statistics confirm that the largest beneficiaries of the new admissions system are poor Asians.

where did you get this information?

I think this is being inferred, that Asians attending certain schools are low income.