Disappointed by TJ decision?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

You might just been living in your little bubble. I am not a troll, we are Farms and URM. My kid is not less smart than his top students peers in his well regarded MS. He never close to any enrichment or tutor or prep or fancy vacation to broaden the horizon, or lavish camp and extra curricular, not because we against it, it is because we can't afford it, not even close. I wish! I am a single mom whose put food on my table and pay the high rent is my priority, I don't have anything left to give it to him. Family like us is exist. Yet my kid still sailed thru his classes, all A's in his all AA honors class and still complain that the class is moving too slow. TJ is now in his horizon with the new admission system. If he stand the same tall with his top students peers, the unearned points is NOT rigged. He is there, by himself with zero outside help.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

You might just been living in your little bubble. I am not a troll, we are Farms and URM. My kid is not less smart than his top students peers in his well regarded MS. He never close to any enrichment or tutor or prep or fancy vacation to broaden the horizon, or lavish camp and extra curricular, not because we against it, it is because we can't afford it, not even close. I wish! I am a single mom whose put food on my table and pay the high rent is my priority, I don't have anything left to give it to him. Family like us is exist. Yet my kid still sailed thru his classes, all A's in his all AA honors class and still complain that the class is moving too slow. TJ is now in his horizon with the new admission system. If he stand the same tall with his top students peers, the unearned points is NOT rigged. He is there, by himself with zero outside help.

Nice try faking your written accent.

Omg, lol.. oh well... (I am the previous poster, first time posting in this thread), but Ok... this forum is definitely a joke.

DP. I dont know if you are faking, but congrats to your successful student. Your child shows that the system is set up to allow anyone to succeed and seems like a great TJ candidate without any extra points.

Just because someone isnt URM, doesnt mean they are flying to hawaii and in the russian school of math, or ski trips and sleepaway camps. They may have a few extra bucks but they are probably not spending it on lavish enrichment, just paying for a few extra sq ft and might have a newer car. Or perhaps they have a few more kids and still dont have anything leftover but dont qualify for anything either. This idea if that if you arent URM, you live in McLean is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

I said one of the biggest behind those main 3. Within FCPS, LBSS was regularly the 6th greatest feeder to TJ of 26 middle schools. Not even remotely underrepresented and one of the biggest feeders. You are incorrect.

Also, 2013 - 21, 2014 - 15, 2015 - 20, 2016 - 14, 2017 - 16

You're 100% right LB is more than I thought (given I live in Robinson & almost no one here goes or talks about it). At most though it's right on par for what a per MS average would be: 450 kids in the pre-changes class / 26 FCPS MSs = about 17 kids per MS. That's the annual avg of LB's admittances that you posted above.

Caron, Longfellow RR, Cooper are "big feeders". After that it falls off sharply.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure Cooper wasn't a big feeder this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

I said one of the biggest behind those main 3. Within FCPS, LBSS was regularly the 6th greatest feeder to TJ of 26 middle schools. Not even remotely underrepresented and one of the biggest feeders. You are incorrect.

Also, 2013 - 21, 2014 - 15, 2015 - 20, 2016 - 14, 2017 - 16

You're 100% right LB is more than I thought (given I live in Robinson & almost no one here goes or talks about it). At most though it's right on par for what a per MS average would be: 450 kids in the pre-changes class / 26 FCPS MSs = about 17 kids per MS. That's the annual avg of LB's admittances that you posted above.

Caron, Longfellow RR, Cooper are "big feeders". After that it falls off sharply.

Once you account for the top few schools the average for the rest drops a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

I said one of the biggest behind those main 3. Within FCPS, LBSS was regularly the 6th greatest feeder to TJ of 26 middle schools. Not even remotely underrepresented and one of the biggest feeders. You are incorrect.

Also, 2013 - 21, 2014 - 15, 2015 - 20, 2016 - 14, 2017 - 16

You're 100% right LB is more than I thought (given I live in Robinson & almost no one here goes or talks about it). At most though it's right on par for what a per MS average would be: 450 kids in the pre-changes class / 26 FCPS MSs = about 17 kids per MS. That's the annual avg of LB's admittances that you posted above.

Caron, Longfellow RR, Cooper are "big feeders". After that it falls off sharply.

Then you have to consider that previous years, only 75% of that 450 was from ffx county, so that average is probably closer to 13. In the previous system, out of the 26 middle schools, 18 regularly reported less than 10 admits. LB always overperformed compared to the rest of county minus that top handful. probably related to Level IV students. And that makes sense that many schools didnt admit a lot because their elite students were at AAP centers.

Now the county share for TJ is even less. I think somewhere around 60% of the 550, so the total number increased, but ffx share decreased, so numbers probably still the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

I said one of the biggest behind those main 3. Within FCPS, LBSS was regularly the 6th greatest feeder to TJ of 26 middle schools. Not even remotely underrepresented and one of the biggest feeders. You are incorrect.

Also, 2013 - 21, 2014 - 15, 2015 - 20, 2016 - 14, 2017 - 16

You're 100% right LB is more than I thought (given I live in Robinson & almost no one here goes or talks about it). At most though it's right on par for what a per MS average would be: 450 kids in the pre-changes class / 26 FCPS MSs = about 17 kids per MS. That's the annual avg of LB's admittances that you posted above.

Caron, Longfellow RR, Cooper are "big feeders". After that it falls off sharply.

Then you have to consider that previous years, only 75% of that 450 was from ffx county, so that average is probably closer to 13. In the previous system, out of the 26 middle schools, 18 regularly reported less than 10 admits. LB always overperformed compared to the rest of county minus that top handful. probably related to Level IV students. And that makes sense that many schools didnt admit a lot because their elite students were at AAP centers.

Now the county share for TJ is even less. I think somewhere around 60% of the 550, so the total number increased, but ffx share decreased, so numbers probably still the same.

Maybe the share decreased, but did the total number of Fairfax seats go up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

I said one of the biggest behind those main 3. Within FCPS, LBSS was regularly the 6th greatest feeder to TJ of 26 middle schools. Not even remotely underrepresented and one of the biggest feeders. You are incorrect.

Also, 2013 - 21, 2014 - 15, 2015 - 20, 2016 - 14, 2017 - 16

You're 100% right LB is more than I thought (given I live in Robinson & almost no one here goes or talks about it). At most though it's right on par for what a per MS average would be: 450 kids in the pre-changes class / 26 FCPS MSs = about 17 kids per MS. That's the annual avg of LB's admittances that you posted above.

Caron, Longfellow RR, Cooper are "big feeders". After that it falls off sharply.

Then you have to consider that previous years, only 75% of that 450 was from ffx county, so that average is probably closer to 13. In the previous system, out of the 26 middle schools, 18 regularly reported less than 10 admits. LB always overperformed compared to the rest of county minus that top handful. probably related to Level IV students. And that makes sense that many schools didnt admit a lot because their elite students were at AAP centers.

Now the county share for TJ is even less. I think somewhere around 60% of the 550, so the total number increased, but ffx share decreased, so numbers probably still the same.

Maybe the share decreased, but did the total number of Fairfax seats go up?

Maybe. Im not sure. My original point was to highlight that with regards to FCPS, AAP identifies students at all schools and all those students have an opportunity to attend center schools. TJ quotas for FCPS schools are unnecessary. And if the ES/MS are not identifying the students appropriately, fix AAP, dont adjust TJ admissions for these artificial quotas. JMO

[Anonymous]

I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BWE23Y004896/$file/TJ%20White%20Paper%2011.17.2020.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Your statement that LBSS historically didn’t send any kids to TJ is false. In fact LBSS was one of the largest feeders behind the Carson, LF, RR groups. This is public information.

Fine - higher than i thought (I said "barely any" not none): 18 in 2019...roughly 1/4 of those admitted from Carson and less than half those from Longfellow or Rocky Run; exactly half as many as at Cooper. Robinson count wasn't listed in the article but it's presumably less than LB. That doesn't make it "one of the biggest feeders".

https://annandaletoday.com/few-mason-district-students-get-into-tj/
"Carson Middle School in Herndon is sending 71 students to TJ for the Class of 2023, the most of any middle school. The other schools where TJ Class of 2023 students are coming from are Longfellow in Falls Church (51 students), Rocky Run in Chantilly (40), Cooper in McLean (36), Frost in Fairfax (18), and Kilmer in Vienna (18). Lake Braddock Secondary School in Burke is also sending 18."

Interest in TJ has historically been FAR higher from Lake Braddock than from Robinson. Literally 4-5 times higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

You might just been living in your little bubble. I am not a troll, we are Farms and URM. My kid is not less smart than his top students peers in his well regarded MS. He never close to any enrichment or tutor or prep or fancy vacation to broaden the horizon, or lavish camp and extra curricular, not because we against it, it is because we can't afford it, not even close. I wish! I am a single mom whose put food on my table and pay the high rent is my priority, I don't have anything left to give it to him. Family like us is exist. Yet my kid still sailed thru his classes, all A's in his all AA honors class and still complain that the class is moving too slow. TJ is now in his horizon with the new admission system. If he stand the same tall with his top students peers, the unearned points is NOT rigged. He is there, by himself with zero outside help.

Nice try faking your written accent.

Omg, lol.. oh well... (I am the previous poster, first time posting in this thread), but Ok... this forum is definitely a joke.

DP. I dont know if you are faking, but congrats to your successful student. Your child shows that the system is set up to allow anyone to succeed and seems like a great TJ candidate without any extra points.

Just because someone isnt URM, doesnt mean they are flying to hawaii and in the russian school of math, or ski trips and sleepaway camps. They may have a few extra bucks but they are probably not spending it on lavish enrichment, just paying for a few extra sq ft and might have a newer car. Or perhaps they have a few more kids and still dont have anything leftover but dont qualify for anything either. This idea if that if you arent URM, you live in McLean is ridiculous.

I don't believe it shows that at all. In fact, it sounds like they succeeded in spite of system being stacked against them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ Every child in FCPS has the same academic opportunity as any other child with regard to school provided services.”

This was not true under the old system. We’re in Robinson zone. So no AAP at MS. Yes we could have placed at LB since DC qualified but they sent barely any kids to TJ historically too. Robinson does not offer any of the special math extracurriculars that the TJ feeder zones do - or at least did not during DC’s MS years. DC’s ES - a center school - did not offer algebra in 6th so 7th was the earliest it was available. There is no prep school (which I realize is beyond FCPS directly) near us so odds of crushing the old test would have been iffy.

Dc is at TJ and doing well. The old system was set up in a way that dramatically pulled from a much smaller handful of schools. The new way is better in my view.

Completely agree, the old system kept out less affluent students and was completely rigged in many ways.

The worst was the blatant cheating where probably close to 50% of those got in had advanced access to the admission test because the prep centers had been building question banks. This was a total pay to play scheme.

Now in the new system, they have rigged it to give URMs unearned points. Shame they couldn’t figure out a fair way to assess students.

You might just been living in your little bubble. I am not a troll, we are Farms and URM. My kid is not less smart than his top students peers in his well regarded MS. He never close to any enrichment or tutor or prep or fancy vacation to broaden the horizon, or lavish camp and extra curricular, not because we against it, it is because we can't afford it, not even close. I wish! I am a single mom whose put food on my table and pay the high rent is my priority, I don't have anything left to give it to him. Family like us is exist. Yet my kid still sailed thru his classes, all A's in his all AA honors class and still complain that the class is moving too slow. TJ is now in his horizon with the new admission system. If he stand the same tall with his top students peers, the unearned points is NOT rigged. He is there, by himself with zero outside help.

Nice try faking your written accent.

Omg, lol.. oh well... (I am the previous poster, first time posting in this thread), but Ok... this forum is definitely a joke.

DP. I dont know if you are faking, but congrats to your successful student. Your child shows that the system is set up to allow anyone to succeed and seems like a great TJ candidate without any extra points.

Just because someone isnt URM, doesnt mean they are flying to hawaii and in the russian school of math, or ski trips and sleepaway camps. They may have a few extra bucks but they are probably not spending it on lavish enrichment, just paying for a few extra sq ft and might have a newer car. Or perhaps they have a few more kids and still dont have anything leftover but dont qualify for anything either. This idea if that if you arent URM, you live in McLean is ridiculous.

I don't believe it shows that at all. In fact, it sounds like they succeeded in spite of system being stacked against them.

Nope. Mother provided necessities and the school provided the education. Child is now a straight A student in honors classes ready to apply to TJ. This is a classic case of an involved parent making all the difference. Not some new car and a vacation to OBX.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a bit confused. So TJ has 550 seats total. Each middle school from each participating county gets at least 1.5% of those seats. Thus almost half of the seats are via specific school quota. Additional qualified candidates compete for remaining half of the seats. So this is regardless of school or county right. So a kid from Loudoun can compete with a kid from Prince William and has the same chance? Then how does the waitpool work? Is it school-specific, county specific, or everyone else is put in the same pool? So if a kid from Loudoun declines, who is the next one in line - kid from his school, kid from Loudoun, or kid from Prince William if his scores are right beneath the Loudoun kid?

It is not 1.5% of those seats that a school is guaranteed. They are guaranteed seats for 1.5% of their 8th grade class. 400 8th graders means only 6 seats, about 1% of the 550 TJ seats.
Loudoun and other counties have their own share of the seats guaranteed, with these schools also getting 1.5% minimum quota. Not sure how the waitlist works. It appears to be not school-specific, in Fairfax or outside Fairfax, but perhaps it is county specific.

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Anonymous wrote:

have been able to present identical longform word-problem-style questions to their students is if they had been reported back by the previous students who had taken the exam. To put it another way, it's fairly obvious based on the evidence that Curie students took the Quant-Q for the Classes of 2022 or 2023, reported the questions back to Curie in violation of the agreement that they signed on the exam day, which Curie then used to develop their own question bank.

Pretty weak test if this is what happened. The QuantQ was first used in 2017/2018 for TJ admissions. They repeated questions that quickly?