It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

4.7\ 1550 means he is in the top 5%. He is not owed anything, but the bizarro world that you live in that he doesn't get in must involve a lot of drugs.

The more stats we look at proves that the admissions office is broken. Feel free to keep on lowering standards because of social justice.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?




We're all disappointed in what is going on at Tech
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?


We're all disappointed in what is going on at Tech


Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Tech, as are all the other families with kids there. Your sour grapes (at this point, rotted) only make you look awful.
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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.


Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.


If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.


WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
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Same here. Very small home.


I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?


Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.


Asians are not included in under represented minority.
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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.


Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.


If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.


WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
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Same here. Very small home.


I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?


Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.


Except Asians are not considered URM for college applications
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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.


Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.


If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.


WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
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Same here. Very small home.


I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?


Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.


Except Asians are not considered URM for college applications


Yes they are, where they are under-represented.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?

When you don’t understand the basics, your argument loses credibility.

In state kids accept their admissions and enroll at a higher percentage. For example, if they accept 10 Virginia kids, 5 will enroll. If they accept 10 out of state kids, 2 will enroll. So to get the mix right, the college has to factor that in.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?

When you don’t understand the basics, your argument loses credibility.

In state kids accept their admissions and enroll at a higher percentage. For example, if they accept 10 Virginia kids, 5 will enroll. If they accept 10 out of state kids, 2 will enroll. So to get the mix right, the college has to factor that in.


I understand the basics, and I think too many out of state students are being admitted. But out of state students pay a lot more, so there are likely lesser qualified out of state students to pay for all of the administrators that have been added over the past 20 years. It would be interesting to see the GPA SAT of out of state compared to in state.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?

When you don’t understand the basics, your argument loses credibility.

In state kids accept their admissions and enroll at a higher percentage. For example, if they accept 10 Virginia kids, 5 will enroll. If they accept 10 out of state kids, 2 will enroll. So to get the mix right, the college has to factor that in.


They just want the money from out of state students.
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happened to us, your incone, parental education status is too high. your kid is also white or asian and male. i am still salty one year later.
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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.


Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.


If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.


WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
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Same here. Very small home.


I’m old but what are these terms please? Donut hole and urm?


Donut hole means you make too much to qualify for programs for poor people, but you can't afford a lot of things.

URM is under represented minority. Which means anything not a white man.



False. URM covers African American, Alaskan native/American Indian and Hispanic. https://www.centerforengagedlearning.org/resources/high-impact-practices-and-historically-underrepresented-minority-students/#:~:text=Historically%20Underrepresented%20Minority%20Students%20(HURMS),-According%20to%20NACME&text=Traditionally%2C%20Historically%20Underrepresented%20Minority%20(HURM,%2FAlaskan%20Natives%2C%20and%20Hispanics.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?


We're all disappointed in what is going on at Tech


Speak for yourself. I'm quite happy with Tech, as are all the other families with kids there. Your sour grapes (at this point, rotted) only make you look awful.


It's not "sour grapes" and i have no dog in the fight. My kid is not applying to colleges yet and doesn't plan to attend Tech. But my dollars support these state institutions and, yes, they should be prioritizing the VA families that fund them. Just like some other states do. Tech, UVA and some of the others are incredibly difficult to get in as is and it's getting worse. So, yes, this does piss me off.
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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.


I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??


He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.


You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?


I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.


Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.


You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.



It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.


He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.


DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.


Thank you for another grown up insult. You exude class.

https://www.niche.com/colleges/virginia-tech/admissions/#scatterplot

My son had a 4.0 unweighted and 1550. Put the numbers in here to see how it compares to others.



You're going by Niche - which is based entirely on user reviews of schools?? No. The only accurate report of stats would be from SCHEV. Regardless, your son is not owed an acceptance anywhere. Move on. Here ya go:

https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921


It looked like the accep rate for our of state students is higher than for in state students. Any VA taxpayers disappointed in this?

When you don’t understand the basics, your argument loses credibility.

In state kids accept their admissions and enroll at a higher percentage. For example, if they accept 10 Virginia kids, 5 will enroll. If they accept 10 out of state kids, 2 will enroll. So to get the mix right, the college has to factor that in.


They just want the money from out of state students.


I don't give a F what they want in that regard. THat is hardly the most important thing and the fact some of you are ok with it is a reason it's not changing. We should be demanding changes.
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Too bad Youngkin isn't running for President.

Virginia university admissions policies are an issue right up his alley. He's politicized other educational issues in the Commonwealth, so why not this one?

Maybe he's just waiting for the SC ruling?
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