RM versus Wooton

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

You and your gang-related obsession... You completely missed the point.

DP.. if it doesn't matter then why do some people keep saying MCPS has a gang problem, including RM? That always gets mentioned when RM comes up.

Look at this kid. He is most likely not a gang member. Does that make it any better? RM has plenty of kids like this one.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/richard-montgomery-high-school-student-accused-of-robbing-shell-gas-station-at-knifepoint

Do you know if the Whitman kid wielding the knife in the Churchill parking lot was a gang member?

What does that (if the incident actually happened) got to do with Wootton?

They're nearby and it provides a sense of how these schools compare.

don't worry. With the boundary changes coming with Crown HS, Wootton is sure to get its fair share of "not gang member" knife wielder. Then people will come on here and say, "Don't buy in Wootton. They have gangs".

That may or may not happen. Let’s cross that bridge when we get there. By that time Jesus may come back and we may all face the judgment day anyway.

Of course it won't be true but some will fearmonger in an effort to boost home prices in their areas.

Have you been living under a rock? MCPS is desperately trying to make the clusters more diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

LOL @ “DP”… Sure you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

That's been going on for decades. Remember Columbine? Still no gun reform...

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

PP here.. I'm an RM parent, and the gossip is not helping. I'm fully aware of what the police stated in that case, and the gossip going around. My own kids have reiterated the gossip.

The police stated that there was no evidence that the first incident involved a gun. People said that they saw what "looked like" a gun, but that doesn't mean there was one. Maybe it was a toy gun. Maybe it wasn't even a toy gun. We don't know, but people like you keep saying that it was a gun.

How many times have we read new stories where someone, including the police, thought some person had a gun, and they shot them, and it turned out that it wasn't a gun?

The gossip is fueling fears. I''m not saying RM has no issues. It absolutely does. But let's focus on what we know factually, and not what what people gossip about.

I generally agree that gossip doesn’t help but in this particular case it didn’t seem like gossip. Multiple kids saw what looked like a gun. The police saw the kids running off into the woods, but did not catch the kids. So they say they can’t confirm that there was a gun. The PP said only one of the instances involved a gun, and I corrected that—one definitely did, and the second possibly or probably did. I’m going to give the benefit of the doubt to the kids that saw the gun, particularly where the individuals in question fled the scene. MCPD could circulate the videos/pics that the kids took, but they haven’t done thar. And Ms Deeny’s email confirmed that the pictures contained something that looked like a gun. Also keep in mind it’s the same kids who were there earlier in the day fighting, left, and then returned to the school. All of that adds up to meets a more likely than not standard for me. We can’t know for sure, of course, because they were t detained in a timely manner.
I’m not saying this is the end of the world …. I’m sure guys I went to HS with had guns and no one particularly cared back then.

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gun?

You think this Asian kid is in a gang? An honor roll student.. Is he in the math gang?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/conviction-cleared-in-school-gun-case/2021/10/01/e0597320-22cc-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gun?

You think this Asian kid is in a gang? An honor roll student.. Is he in the math gang?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/conviction-cleared-in-school-gun-case/2021/10/01/e0597320-22cc-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html

Sorry , that should state "You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gang" not gun.

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gun?

You think this Asian kid is in a gang? An honor roll student.. Is he in the math gang?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/conviction-cleared-in-school-gun-case/2021/10/01/e0597320-22cc-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html

Sorry , that should state "You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gang" not gun.

Whitman must be so dangerous since there was a knife-wielding Churchill kid running around the parking lot. It means these W's are hotbeds of gang activity!!! OMG!

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Anonymous wrote:Right before the Giant across from Wootton closed we said our goodbyes to the cashiers. They mentioned that the Wootton kids would come in everyday at lunch and after school and steal hundreds of dollars worth of merchandise. So, they are not all angels.

Perfect hearsay.

but repeating that there were two gang related gun incidences at RM when the police said there was only one, and neither were gang related, is not hearsay?

I’m an RM parent. The police did not say there were not two gun related incidents. They said there was on incident in which the individual was found with a gun on them and one in which the police did not locate the gun. I was listening to the police scanners as it happened. The students saw the gun (and the principal acknowledged that the students were circulating photos of what appeared to be a gun), but the individuals ran off into the woods between the school and the apartment building. The police circled around the apartment building but did not find them, at least in the hours i was listening. It seems to me likely the kid had a gun and either tossed it in the woods or stashed it in one of the apartments. They were carefully worded comminciwtions from the school and MCPD. I don’t have any knowledge as to whether or not they were gang related. I think people made assumptions that teen boys running around with guns were likely gang affiliated but I don’t know what the correlation is there.

I don't really understand what difference it makes if these events were gang related or not. If your kid is shot dead, would you find comfort knowing the killer was not a gang member?? Gun doesn't care who pulls the trigger.

There have been 0 gang-related incidents at an MCPS in over a decade, but some people love to fearmonger despite the lack of any credible evidence.

That is completely untrue. MCPS doesn't keep track of 'gang-related' incidents because it would make certain schools look bad. However, ask anyone in the MCPD and they will tell you that Montgomery County and MCPS most definitely has a gang problem. And, some of the incidents that occur at school (drug-related, usually) involve gang members.

Give it up. That poster is completely tone deaf.

DP.. can you cite a reliable source that states we have a gang problem in MCPS? I'm totally serious.

kids running around with loaded gun and knives not enough?

You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gun?

You think this Asian kid is in a gang? An honor roll student.. Is he in the math gang?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/conviction-cleared-in-school-gun-case/2021/10/01/e0597320-22cc-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html

Sorry , that should state "You think every kid with a gun or knife is involved in a gang" not gun.

Whitman must be so dangerous since there was a knife-wielding Churchill kid running around the parking lot. It means these W's are hotbeds of gang activity!!! OMG!

Right.. lots of drugs, ODing, drunkeness, parents supplying alcohol, and gang activity in those W schools.

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OP - I am a born/raised/still living in Moco. To make it very simple. Wootton is a better and safer school. Any other advice is bad advice. RM/Blair stats are scewed due to the IB program

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton has a more engaged and less problematic student body. The school isn’t as nice and there aren’t stores, fast food places nearby, but it is safer and has less fights, drugs in school, etc… it isn’t perfect but I have had 2 go to W and 1 go RM. Youngest didn’t even apply to IB and will go to W. RM does have better sports teams on the whole.

There is a reason homes are pricier in the Wootton district. RM fills a subpar school with IB to make it near the testing scores of Wootton that has not one magnet program.

This is the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am a born/raised/still living in Moco. To make it very simple. Wootton is a better and safer school. Any other advice is bad advice. RM/Blair stats are scewed due to the IB program

I completely agree and I don’t live in either zone. Apparently RM folks are concerned about comments like yours affecting their property value. Who would’ve thought…

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton has a more engaged and less problematic student body. The school isn’t as nice and there aren’t stores, fast food places nearby, but it is safer and has less fights, drugs in school, etc… it isn’t perfect but I have had 2 go to W and 1 go RM. Youngest didn’t even apply to IB and will go to W. RM does have better sports teams on the whole.

There is a reason homes are pricier in the Wootton district. RM fills a subpar school with IB to make it near the testing scores of Wootton that has not one magnet program.

This is the answer.

Disagree - much more rigorous academic courses are available at RM and the other difference is hairsplitting. All this gossip is nonsense well except the part about people running around W's with knives because that actually just happened.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - I am a born/raised/still living in Moco. To make it very simple. Wootton is a better and safer school. Any other advice is bad advice. RM/Blair stats are scewed due to the IB program

I completely agree and I don’t live in either zone. Apparently RM folks are concerned about comments like yours affecting their property value. Who would’ve thought…

Oh no, it's just the opposite. It's the Wootton parents talking up all this gossip to fearmonger in the hopes of inflating their home values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton has a more engaged and less problematic student body. The school isn’t as nice and there aren’t stores, fast food places nearby, but it is safer and has less fights, drugs in school, etc… it isn’t perfect but I have had 2 go to W and 1 go RM. Youngest didn’t even apply to IB and will go to W. RM does have better sports teams on the whole.

There is a reason homes are pricier in the Wootton district. RM fills a subpar school with IB to make it near the testing scores of Wootton that has not one magnet program.

This is the answer.

Ignoring the fact that about 25% of the magnet are RM local students and would have attended either way. The non-RM magnet kids are not a huge part of the school as a whole.