Mary Cheh wants to make it legal for bicyclists for blow stop signs and stop lights

[Anonymous]

]Just this morning I was proceeding on a green light when a driver came barreling through the intersection straight across me on the red light, and gives me the finger while I have to slam on my breaks. Their light was dead red. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

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Now I've got it!!!!Bikers have had their heads slammed so many times that they think it's a good idea to ride next to dangerous cars. Thanks for clearing that up PP.

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Anonymous wrote:]Just this morning I was proceeding on a green light when a driver came barreling through the intersection straight across me on the red light, and gives me the finger while I have to slam on my breaks. Their light was dead red. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

Just this morning I was preceding down a road with a two way stop sign when a driver cam barreling through the intersection straight across me without stopping and honked at me while I had to slam on the breaks. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think boxing can be made safe?

Do you think football can be made safe?

No, you don't.

And, for the same reasons, riding a bike in a major city will never be safe either.

You're free to ride. But stop being such crybabies about the risks you choose to run.

Does biking involve being slammed in the head all the time? No? Then yes, it can be made safe.

Why is driving a car so dangerous? Maybe that should be the starting premise.

Right? There are places where, with the same bicycles, people don't get.injured and killed at even close to the same rate. So the problem is what we've set up for drivers. The infrastructure, the cars themselves, it's all set up to make things more dangerous for those of us not in the cars. That can and should change.

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Anonymous wrote:]Just this morning I was proceeding on a green light when a driver came barreling through the intersection straight across me on the red light, and gives me the finger while I have to slam on my breaks. Their light was dead red. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

Just this morning I was preceding down a road with a two way stop sign when a driver cam barreling through the intersection straight across me without stopping and honked at me while I had to slam on the breaks. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

Just this morning I was crossing the street in a crosswalk with the signal when a driver came barreling through the intersection straight across from me without stopping and honked at me while I had to jump out of the way for my life. Their light was dead red. This happens almost every day - it is basically legal and it is a free for all.

[Anonymous]

I really wish there were spikes that came up into a car when a driver started rolling into a crosswalk while I'm legally crossing and they have a red light. I don't think drivers understand how threatening that is.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

That's why drivers are ok with being smashed by 18 wheelers and don't care about implementing safety standards with them. Totally not hypocritical at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

We just want to get from point A to point B. We are doing it in a way that really doesn't impact anyone else. Why are you so triggered?

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

We just want to get from point A to point B. We are doing it in a way that really doesn't impact anyone else. Why are you so triggered?

Of course you are impacting others!!!! Do you really not understand that? Maybe that’s part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

We just want to get from point A to point B. We are doing it in a way that really doesn't impact anyone else. Why are you so triggered?

Of course you are impacting others!!!! Do you really not understand that? Maybe that’s part of the problem.

DP. I think they meant to say without "negatively impacting people". I ride my bike every day and the only car drivers who seem to be impacted by me are those that insist on speeding around me at every stop sign only to be forced to stop at the next stop sign. If car drivers stop treating every ride like a race, maybe they wouldn't be so bothered by people sharing the road.

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I don't understand how drivers say that bicyclists are impacting them but other drivers aren't?

Even if we set aside double parkers ("just for a minute"), stupidity that causes crashes, left turns where not allowed, and other shenanigans, other drivers cause congestion. Do you really want to add more drivers to the road? How does that help you?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

We just want to get from point A to point B. We are doing it in a way that really doesn't impact anyone else. Why are you so triggered?

Of course you are impacting others!!!! Do you really not understand that? Maybe that’s part of the problem.

How is my riding a bike on the street, over to the right, impacting you?

Yes, there are cyclists that break laws. I have news for you, there are car drivers who break laws too, and when they do, someone usually ends up in the hospital or dead. That is not the case with a cyclist (ther than the oft repeated examples that happened a decade ago)

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

This is why cyclists advocate for separated bike infrastructure- because they don't want to be in the same space as car drivers with no regard to the existence of other road users.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting how cyclists always turn the argument over to cars this and cars that. You as a cyclist endanger yourselves when you choose to ride next huge heavy vehicles that can go faster than you (and stop when need be). You don't wish to follow any rules of the road and drivers are sick and tired of it.

We just want to get from point A to point B. We are doing it in a way that really doesn't impact anyone else. Why are you so triggered?

Of course you are impacting others!!!! Do you really not understand that? Maybe that’s part of the problem.

When I drive and there is a cyclist in front of me I never pass unless there is a dotted or no double yellow line and room to give at least 4-6 feet to pass. I very frequently see drivers ahead of me pass a cyclist in an unsafe manner that I stay behind and then we both catch up to those drivers at the next light. Having to drive more slowly to the next light might be annoying but it is likely not actually impacting your total commute time. And if it is, well so what? If there were zero other drivers on the road and no traffic I could get downtown much faster. But it turns out other drivers exists. Pedestrians exist. Cyslist exist. People in wheelchairs exists. Scooter riders exist. I guess overall each of them is 'impacting' my drive but such is life when you live in a city. You are impacting their commutes so why don't you understand that and just choose not to drive in the city, since that seems to be your easy solution to people being in your way?