Mary Cheh wants to make it legal for bicyclists for blow stop signs and stop lights

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:She says it's important for bicyclists to be able to "maintain momentum."

Uh, what?

If you're too lazy to stop at stop signs, whether you're in a car or on a bike, maybe you shouldnt be on the road.

This being D.C., she is pairing this "safety" proposal with other plans to make it harder to drive a car.

This is what being captured by special interests (i.e., the bike lobby) looks like.

https://twitter.com/marycheh/status/1496223827524820995


what's the Idaho stop?





An "Idaho stop" is the euphemism they've created to describe bicyclists ignoring stop signs. If cars did this, people would be apoplectic.


They don't ignore the stop sign, they still have to yield right of way. They just don't have to come to a complete stop when doing so.


Can I do that in my car too? It is very important for me to "maintain momentum."


Happens all the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She says it's important for bicyclists to be able to "maintain momentum."

Uh, what?

If you're too lazy to stop at stop signs, whether you're in a car or on a bike, maybe you shouldnt be on the road.

This being D.C., she is pairing this "safety" proposal with other plans to make it harder to drive a car.

This is what being captured by special interests (i.e., the bike lobby) looks like.

https://twitter.com/marycheh/status/1496223827524820995


what's the Idaho stop?





An "Idaho stop" is the euphemism they've created to describe bicyclists ignoring stop signs. If cars did this, people would be apoplectic.


They don't ignore the stop sign, they still have to yield right of way. They just don't have to come to a complete stop when doing so.


Can I do that in my car too? It is very important for me to "maintain momentum."


You might want to see a mechanic about that
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She says it's important for bicyclists to be able to "maintain momentum."

Uh, what?

If you're too lazy to stop at stop signs, whether you're in a car or on a bike, maybe you shouldnt be on the road.

This being D.C., she is pairing this "safety" proposal with other plans to make it harder to drive a car.

This is what being captured by special interests (i.e., the bike lobby) looks like.

https://twitter.com/marycheh/status/1496223827524820995


what's the Idaho stop?





An "Idaho stop" is the euphemism they've created to describe bicyclists ignoring stop signs. If cars did this, people would be apoplectic.


They don't ignore the stop sign, they still have to yield right of way. They just don't have to come to a complete stop when doing so.


Can I do that in my car too? It is very important for me to "maintain momentum."


Serious question - do you really want cyclists to come to complete stops at every stop sign? Then, thay have to start from scratch, and they're in the middle of the lane, so if you're behind them, you're going 5-10 mph for quite a while. Then, same thing at the next stop sign.
Anonymous
Why don’t your MYOB, OP?

Or is it your job to be an annoying busybody?
Anonymous
I hate cyclists but I do see the reasonableness of yield instead of stopping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: I hate cyclists but I do see the reasonableness of yield instead of stopping.


You have a very mature outlook.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not quite, the proposal is to allow Idaho stops which lets cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs. It is actually associated with fewer cyclist injuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop


This is true. It also is associated with greater pedestrian injuries.

Mary Cheh doesn't care about pedestrian safety. She blew me off when I was injured by a Safeway truck in a dangerous cross walk.

I will never forget avoiding a horrific collision by a split second with a speeding bicycle messenger in a crosswalk in another city. Unfortunately, he hit another pedestrian walking next to me, causing severe open wound, broken bone injuries to the person next to me. The cyclist's bicycle was twisted in a knot and the front wheel became disengaged.
Anonymous
Wow. I am so opposed to this. I know a guy who is an avid biker who is good friends with Cheh. He probably talked her into this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why don’t your MYOB, OP?

Or is it your job to be an annoying busybody?


Wtf? This is the business of anyone who lives in DC!!
Anonymous
Mary Cheh will continue to endanger pedestrians with this nonsense until she or a family is injured.

Next she will be advocating for bicyclists on the sidewalk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not quite, the proposal is to allow Idaho stops which lets cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs. It is actually associated with fewer cyclist injuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop


This is true. It also is associated with greater pedestrian injuries.

Mary Cheh doesn't care about pedestrian safety. She blew me off when I was injured by a Safeway truck in a dangerous cross walk.

I will never forget avoiding a horrific collision by a split second with a speeding bicycle messenger in a crosswalk in another city. Unfortunately, he hit another pedestrian walking next to me, causing severe open wound, broken bone injuries to the person next to me. The cyclist's bicycle was twisted in a knot and the front wheel became disengaged.


THIS, above. Sure, Idaho stops are better for cyclists. For pedestrians, not so much. It's going to take a pedestrian getting killed by a cyclist to get anyone to realize that pedestrians are vulnerable and that cycles hitting a pedestrian can indeed kill the pedestrian.
Anonymous
DC has far too mamy hills which make it more difficult to yield to pedestrians. There won't be enough time to stop and the pedestrians won't see the cyclists coming.
Anonymous
^many
Anonymous
Married to an obsessed cyclist. I can confirm momentum is very important to them, making sure they have everything on Strava, etc. All sorts of devices, clothing - everyone acting as if they were training for the Tour de France. I’m not surprised they want the world to bend to their schedules, rules, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not quite, the proposal is to allow Idaho stops which lets cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs. It is actually associated with fewer cyclist injuries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop


This is true. It also is associated with greater pedestrian injuries.


You got a cite for that?
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