Karl Frisch and the Stupidity of Dunn Loring ES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

What school security? There have been ten overdoses since the beginning of the school year. Other than that, children are safe.

Tony Sabio wants everyone to have AR-15s. Karl has led the effort to keep guns out of schools. He also led the push this year to get NARCAN in schools which is saving lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

What school security? There have been ten overdoses since the beginning of the school year. Other than that, children are safe.

Tony Sabio wants everyone to have AR-15s. Karl has led the effort to keep guns out of schools. He also led the push this year to get NARCAN in schools which is saving lives.

These are the types of lies that make Frisch one of the most despised politicians in NoVa.

Sabio doesn’t want “everyone” yo have an AR-15 (he has training from the military); guns were already prohibited in schools; and Frisch was just one of many supporting NARCAN in schools.

The man exaggerates until he’s blue in the face, and then he exaggerates some more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

+1. That site saved money!

It doesn’t save money. It’s not needed right now, and certainly not at that location.

If and when a school is needed, it will be at a different site. And if it were to cost more to build at that site, which might or might not be the case, it would only be because the other site is closer to where the residential development is actually occurring.

Frisch is such a putz.

Look at the projected numbers AND the new residential buildings under development right now (proposed, approved, and under construction).

There will continue to be TONS of growth around Tysons which already has several schools forecasted to be overcapacity. The proposed and approved #s are on top of those forecasted numbers, which only account for buildings already under construction.

You can't just look at today's numbers - this school will be built for future needs based on the construction of new residential buildings.

The Dunn Loring site is surrounded by under-enrolled elementary schools that are not slated for much growth. The growth is further north and east. If one were trying to be pro-active, you’d build at Pimmit Hills or, better yet, at the Tysons site available to FCPS.

By building a school at the wrong site, you make it less likely that funds will be available to build at a preferable site when a school is needed, you will guarantee massive boundary changes at the ES within the Marshall pyramid, and you will consign future generations of kids to unnecessary bus rides through the heart of congested Tysons to attend ES because of your lack of anything approaching common sense.

And, if all the approved construction in Tysons and West Falls Church were to materialize, the overcrowding would continue to be much more acute at the HS level (Marshall/McLean) than at the ES level. Building an ES that isn’t needed in Vienna surrounded by other under-enrolled ES isn’t going to do anything thing to address that much larger problem.

Street address for the bolded?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Hey look, the lying, homophobic bigot showed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

What school security? There have been ten overdoses since the beginning of the school year. Other than that, children are safe.

Tony Sabio wants everyone to have AR-15s. Karl has led the effort to keep guns out of schools. He also led the push this year to get NARCAN in schools which is saving lives.

These are the types of lies that make Frisch one of the most despised politicians in NoVa.

Sabio doesn’t want “everyone” yo have an AR-15 (he has training from the military); guns were already prohibited in schools; and Frisch was just one of many supporting NARCAN in schools.

The man exaggerates until he’s blue in the face, and then he exaggerates some more.

??
He co-sponsored the proposal.
https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2023/05/fairfax-co-school-board-approves-plan-to-provide-students-staff-access-to-narcan-in-all-classrooms/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Hey look, the lying, homophobic bigot showed up.

Or maybe it’s someone who REALLY hates dogs and wants the dog park gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Page 40, CIP from 2016 transmitted to the Superintendent from the School Board on December 5th, 2014. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/cipbookfy2016-20_0.pdf

Reopen the Dunn Loring Administrative Center as an elementary school to accommodate projected growth in the surrounding schools (Freedom
Hill ES, Shrevewood ES, Stenwood ES in the Marshall HS Pyramid).

You know who wasn't on the School Board in 2014? Karl Frisch.

2019 CIP - Shrevewood 127%, Stenwood 101%, Freedom Hill 94% for 22-23 (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted%20FY%202019-23%20CIP_0.pdf)
2020 CIP - 125%, 95%, 75% for 2023-24 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/amended-FY2020-24-CIP.pdf
2021 CIP - 120%, 97%, 77% for 2024-25 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-FY2021-25.pdf (this is the latest projected data that the School Board had when making the decision to repurpose the funds for Dunn Loring Elementary in January 2021)
2022 CIP - no estimates due to COVID
2023 CIP - 92%, 92%, 64% for 2026-27 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-FY2023-27-CIP.pdf

The CIP is a massive moving target. The estimates have not stabilized since COVID and I do not trust the numbers being as low as they are now. Would I delay Dunn Loring? Maybe. Was Dunn Loring a bad idea? Not even a little bit.

[Anonymous]

What has happened to Shrevewood since COVID?

Sept 2019:
K: 98
1: 115
2: 113
3: 108
4: 108
5: 106
6: 108

Sept 2023:

K: 85
1: 93
2: 111
3: 72
4: 74
5: 91
6: 104

So, how much of this is COVID vs AAP center (Lemon Road) vs a natural decrease? Hard to say. The K-2 group from 2019 is now the 4-6 group. I tend to think that a lot of people did go private from the PS, K and 1st grade cohorts due to COVID and not having as much tie to the school system. Meanwhile the 2nd grade cohort only had a small amount of attrition. That makes the current 3rd-5th grade cohorts really small. But what happens when these grades eventually move out of the school. Does Shrevewood go back to being overcrowded? The 2nd grade cohort is as big as the largest classes from 2019. But K and 1 are smaller. And how does immigration play in? COVID really interrupted a lot of things, and it'll take a while to normalize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Page 40, CIP from 2016 transmitted to the Superintendent from the School Board on December 5th, 2014. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/cipbookfy2016-20_0.pdf

Reopen the Dunn Loring Administrative Center as an elementary school to accommodate projected growth in the surrounding schools (Freedom
Hill ES, Shrevewood ES, Stenwood ES in the Marshall HS Pyramid).

You know who wasn't on the School Board in 2014? Karl Frisch.

2019 CIP - Shrevewood 127%, Stenwood 101%, Freedom Hill 94% for 22-23 (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted%20FY%202019-23%20CIP_0.pdf)
2020 CIP - 125%, 95%, 75% for 2023-24 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/amended-FY2020-24-CIP.pdf
2021 CIP - 120%, 97%, 77% for 2024-25 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-FY2021-25.pdf (this is the latest projected data that the School Board had when making the decision to repurpose the funds for Dunn Loring Elementary in January 2021)
2022 CIP - no estimates due to COVID
2023 CIP - 92%, 92%, 64% for 2026-27 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-FY2023-27-CIP.pdf

The CIP is a massive moving target. The estimates have not stabilized since COVID and I do not trust the numbers being as low as they are now. Would I delay Dunn Loring? Maybe. Was Dunn Loring a bad idea? Not even a little bit.

+1. In the next ten years we’ll need that school.

[Anonymous]

Reopening Dunn Loring was just one of many potential future options identified in a prior CIP. And that option was described as reopening Dunn Loring - not tearing it down entirely.

By the time Frisch rammed through this ill-conceived proposal it was clear there were far more pressing needs elsewhere. And, that prior concerns about capacity issues at Shrevewood could have been addressed far more quickly by moving part of Shrevewood to Stenwood and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill - not by wasting tens of millions on Dunn Loring.

But, sure, call anyone who think Frisch is a total ignoramus “homophobic.” It’s always Karl’s fallback to try and portray himself as a victim when it’s actually his constituents who are getting ripped off and will be the victims of his incredibly poor decision-making.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Page 40, CIP from 2016 transmitted to the Superintendent from the School Board on December 5th, 2014. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/cipbookfy2016-20_0.pdf

Reopen the Dunn Loring Administrative Center as an elementary school to accommodate projected growth in the surrounding schools (Freedom
Hill ES, Shrevewood ES, Stenwood ES in the Marshall HS Pyramid).

You know who wasn't on the School Board in 2014? Karl Frisch.

2019 CIP - Shrevewood 127%, Stenwood 101%, Freedom Hill 94% for 22-23 (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted%20FY%202019-23%20CIP_0.pdf)
2020 CIP - 125%, 95%, 75% for 2023-24 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/amended-FY2020-24-CIP.pdf
2021 CIP - 120%, 97%, 77% for 2024-25 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-FY2021-25.pdf (this is the latest projected data that the School Board had when making the decision to repurpose the funds for Dunn Loring Elementary in January 2021)
2022 CIP - no estimates due to COVID
2023 CIP - 92%, 92%, 64% for 2026-27 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-FY2023-27-CIP.pdf

The CIP is a massive moving target. The estimates have not stabilized since COVID and I do not trust the numbers being as low as they are now. Would I delay Dunn Loring? Maybe. Was Dunn Loring a bad idea? Not even a little bit.

+1. In the next ten years we’ll need that school.

Not in that location. Total boondoggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What has happened to Shrevewood since COVID?

Sept 2019:
K: 98
1: 115
2: 113
3: 108
4: 108
5: 106
6: 108

Sept 2023:

K: 85
1: 93
2: 111
3: 72
4: 74
5: 91
6: 104

So, how much of this is COVID vs AAP center (Lemon Road) vs a natural decrease? Hard to say. The K-2 group from 2019 is now the 4-6 group. I tend to think that a lot of people did go private from the PS, K and 1st grade cohorts due to COVID and not having as much tie to the school system. Meanwhile the 2nd grade cohort only had a small amount of attrition. That makes the current 3rd-5th grade cohorts really small. But what happens when these grades eventually move out of the school. Does Shrevewood go back to being overcrowded? The 2nd grade cohort is as big as the largest classes from 2019. But K and 1 are smaller. And how does immigration play in? COVID really interrupted a lot of things, and it'll take a while to normalize.

Sorry for splitting these posts up, but the short story is that the current CIP has an enrollment of 625 kids in Shrevewood in 2026-2027. But across 7 classes plus pre-school, that would be less than 90/grade. I don't think that is realistic and Shrevewood will find itself on the high side of CIP projections. I'm guessing that I'd find the same if I did the analysis for Stenwood and Freedom Hill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reopening Dunn Loring was just one of many potential future options identified in a prior CIP. And that option was described as reopening Dunn Loring - not tearing it down entirely.

By the time Frisch rammed through this ill-conceived proposal it was clear there were far more pressing needs elsewhere. And, that prior concerns about capacity issues at Shrevewood could have been addressed far more quickly by moving part of Shrevewood to Stenwood and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill - not by wasting tens of millions on Dunn Loring.

But, sure, call anyone who think Frisch is a total ignoramus “homophobic.” It’s always Karl’s fallback to try and portray himself as a victim when it’s actually his constituents who are getting ripped off and will be the victims of his incredibly poor decision-making.

The homophobic posters are the ones that say that Frisch favored a dog park over a school at Blake Lane. Other criticisms are fair. That one is just gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

Page 40, CIP from 2016 transmitted to the Superintendent from the School Board on December 5th, 2014. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/cipbookfy2016-20_0.pdf

Reopen the Dunn Loring Administrative Center as an elementary school to accommodate projected growth in the surrounding schools (Freedom
Hill ES, Shrevewood ES, Stenwood ES in the Marshall HS Pyramid).

You know who wasn't on the School Board in 2014? Karl Frisch.

2019 CIP - Shrevewood 127%, Stenwood 101%, Freedom Hill 94% for 22-23 (https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted%20FY%202019-23%20CIP_0.pdf)
2020 CIP - 125%, 95%, 75% for 2023-24 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/amended-FY2020-24-CIP.pdf
2021 CIP - 120%, 97%, 77% for 2024-25 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-CIP-FY2021-25.pdf (this is the latest projected data that the School Board had when making the decision to repurpose the funds for Dunn Loring Elementary in January 2021)
2022 CIP - no estimates due to COVID
2023 CIP - 92%, 92%, 64% for 2026-27 https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Adopted-FY2023-27-CIP.pdf

The CIP is a massive moving target. The estimates have not stabilized since COVID and I do not trust the numbers being as low as they are now. Would I delay Dunn Loring? Maybe. Was Dunn Loring a bad idea? Not even a little bit.

If you don’t trust the enrollment numbers as having stabilized post-Covid, you certainly don’t allocate money to build a new school surrounded by under-enrolled schools or change school boundaries until you’re satisfied you can project enrollments comfortably again. Frisch did both, which indicates he’s once again talking out of both sides of his mouth. The guy is such a fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reopening Dunn Loring was just one of many potential future options identified in a prior CIP. And that option was described as reopening Dunn Loring - not tearing it down entirely.

By the time Frisch rammed through this ill-conceived proposal it was clear there were far more pressing needs elsewhere. And, that prior concerns about capacity issues at Shrevewood could have been addressed far more quickly by moving part of Shrevewood to Stenwood and part of Stenwood to Freedom Hill - not by wasting tens of millions on Dunn Loring.

But, sure, call anyone who think Frisch is a total ignoramus “homophobic.” It’s always Karl’s fallback to try and portray himself as a victim when it’s actually his constituents who are getting ripped off and will be the victims of his incredibly poor decision-making.

The homophobic posters are the ones that say that Frisch favored a dog park over a school at Blake Lane. Other criticisms are fair. That one is just gross.

Why? Those who wanted no school built at Blake Lane Park emphasized that it has a dog park, and Frisch was their champion.

Others wanted a school built at Blake Lane or for FCPS to find an alternative site in the Fairfax/Oakton area. Frisch has left them high and dry. He paid s lot of attention to renaming Mosby Woods, but no attention to the fact that it’s had over 1000 kids - huge for an ES - at various times.

Now, with Dunn Loring on the horizon, some existing schools near that site will likely end up with 450 kids or less. The guy has no common sense.