Karl Frisch and the Stupidity of Dunn Loring ES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the projections & development projects, Tysons is going to be overcapacity.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2022/11/04/mclean-citizens-association-warns-fcps-student-enrollment-estimates-might-miss-the-mark/

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/819f3704ae9849539183d741001a645f

Dunn Loring seems like a good place to put a new school, especially if FCPS already has a building there. Blake Lane is nowhere near the new development in FCPS.

No, dumba*s. Tysons might have been a good location. The Dunn Loring site is in Vienna and surrounded by under-enrolled elementary schools.

The Blake Lake site is near multiple elementary schools with over 800 kids. Dunn Loring, if it gets built, will have to pull kids from already under-enrolled schools and leave them with around 400-450 kids.

Tyson’s would’ve been enormously expensive.

FCPS already has a site in Tysons. The Board of Supervisors wants to make it an area with amenities. You’re a total idiot who will make it that much harder to accomplish if a school that isn’t needed gets built in Vienna/DL instead. People who know where the growth in Tysons is happening told you the school wasn’t needed in Dunn Loring and you just ignored them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is getting old.[/quote

Agreed. Vote on Tuesday and hush now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

[Anonymous]

Yes, and he will be reelected because the people in his district are too stupid, or simply refuse to care about education in FCPS.

Voters are going to get what they deserve. Sadly every kid in FCPS will pay the price.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

You should zoom out some more and then this folly might appear more defensible.

However, anyone who looks at the CIP will see Dunn Loring is surrounded by multiple existing schools projected to be under-enrolled for years to come.

The growth is further north and east, and that’s where any new school should be built. Otherwise, any short-term savings by building at Dunn Loring will be outweighed by higher transportation costs over the long run.

Also, let the Board of Supervisors know that all their talk about making Tysons a livable community has been thrown out the window because you’ve effectively decided kids should get bussed to some random elementary school in Vienna instead.

People wrote the School Board to point out this school should not be built in Dunn Loring. You and your incompetent colleagues ignored them. You’re a dope and, even if you beat Sabio, we won’t stop pointing out that you’re created a mess, all because you wanted to save a dog park. And by the time the shit really hits the fan, you will have bailed for some other position and left others to clean up the mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

+1. That site saved money!

[Anonymous]

Everyone keeps saying there’s more development out west. Ok, Karl does not represent those parts of the county. Maybe talk to your own school board member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, and he will be reelected because the people in his district are too stupid, or simply refuse to care about education in FCPS.

Voters are going to get what they deserve. Sadly every kid in FCPS will pay the price.

Calling voters stupid is not going to win us over. But when your candidate auctioned off an assault rifle, I don’t think most voters would even consider him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

+1. That site saved money!

It doesn’t save money. It’s not needed right now, and certainly not at that location.

If and when a school is needed, it will be at a different site. And if it were to cost more to build at that site, which might or might not be the case, it would only be because the other site is closer to where the residential development is actually occurring.

Frisch is such a putz.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

+1. That site saved money!

It doesn’t save money. It’s not needed right now, and certainly not at that location.

If and when a school is needed, it will be at a different site. And if it were to cost more to build at that site, which might or might not be the case, it would only be because the other site is closer to where the residential development is actually occurring.

Frisch is such a putz.

Look at the projected numbers AND the new residential buildings under development right now (proposed, approved, and under construction).

There will continue to be TONS of growth around Tysons which already has several schools forecasted to be overcapacity. The proposed and approved #s are on top of those forecasted numbers, which only account for buildings already under construction.

You can't just look at today's numbers - this school will be built for future needs based on the construction of new residential buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

BS. No other School Board member, much less one running for re-election, has wasted over $60M in taxpayer money on a completely unnecessary facility. And he has a terrible reputation when it comes to constituent service - routinely ignoring people in the district.

Looks necessary to me given the huge number of residential buildings under development...


And bonus, he found a way to do it cheaper.

+1. That site saved money!

It doesn’t save money. It’s not needed right now, and certainly not at that location.

If and when a school is needed, it will be at a different site. And if it were to cost more to build at that site, which might or might not be the case, it would only be because the other site is closer to where the residential development is actually occurring.

Frisch is such a putz.

Look at the projected numbers AND the new residential buildings under development right now (proposed, approved, and under construction).

There will continue to be TONS of growth around Tysons which already has several schools forecasted to be overcapacity. The proposed and approved #s are on top of those forecasted numbers, which only account for buildings already under construction.

You can't just look at today's numbers - this school will be built for future needs based on the construction of new residential buildings.

The Dunn Loring site is surrounded by under-enrolled elementary schools that are not slated for much growth. The growth is further north and east. If one were trying to be pro-active, you’d build at Pimmit Hills or, better yet, at the Tysons site available to FCPS.

By building a school at the wrong site, you make it less likely that funds will be available to build at a preferable site when a school is needed, you will guarantee massive boundary changes at the ES within the Marshall pyramid, and you will consign future generations of kids to unnecessary bus rides through the heart of congested Tysons to attend ES because of your lack of anything approaching common sense.

And, if all the approved construction in Tysons and West Falls Church were to materialize, the overcrowding would continue to be much more acute at the HS level (Marshall/McLean) than at the ES level. Building an ES that isn’t needed in Vienna surrounded by other under-enrolled ES isn’t going to do anything thing to address that much larger problem.

[Anonymous]

Someone needs to get Dalia Palchik and Jimmy Bierman (who’ll be on the next Board of Supervisors) in the same room as Karl Frisch and figure out which one of them is the biggest liar.

Bierman and Palchik can’t wax eloquent enough about how important it is to promote “smart growth” in Tysons and create an area with its own amenities and sense of community. Meanwhile Frisch keeps trying to take credit for “saving money” by building a school in Vienna surrounded by under-enrolled schools that, among other things, will force kids in new Tysons developments to attend elementary schools elsewhere.

So one or maybe all of them are just totally full of shit. It would be nice to pin this down sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every time you post in this and the other threads designed to bash all Dem SB members before the election, you just remind me to go vote (for them). So thanks! Clearly you haven't studied marketing tactics.

People have posted some compelling reasons why Dunn Loring ES is a big waste of money, to which Karl and his friends invariably respond with half-truths at best. If that's what you value in your candidates, go for it.

I value his focus on school security and protection if students and families rights to information, choice of free reading materials, etc. It's not all about Dunn Lorng - every SB member has a facilities issue people harp on, but Frisch has been a solid advocate for student safety and achievement, and responsive to community (at least the times my family has contacted him).

What school security? There have been ten overdoses since the beginning of the school year. Other than that, children are safe.