Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

[Anonymous]

Maybe this has already been said, but Blake has been badly advised by her attorney. Both sides are going to lose badly, and nothing good will come of this. There is never ever an upside for her, even if you believe her (and they don't need the money). And unfortunately, in this climate, if I were forced to choose a winner, I would chose him (not that I dont believe her).

Litigaton is never the answer, and I was a litigator for 30 years.

Just wow. What a mess (that she created).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this has already been said, but Blake has been badly advised by her attorney. Both sides are going to lose badly, and nothing good will come of this. There is never ever an upside for her, even if you believe her (and they don't need the money). And unfortunately, in this climate, if I were forced to choose a winner, I would chose him (not that I dont believe her).

Litigaton is never the answer, and I was a litigator for 30 years.

Just wow. What a mess (that she created).

I don't have have as much experience! But I have litigated and she (and husband).seem the type who sort of shot too hard but will also want to go to the end. Like, they want their day in court! Smart or not.

Side note: I think they believe they're so special they're shitty with PR.

Whoever clears this up should earn a buck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this has already been said, but Blake has been badly advised by her attorney. Both sides are going to lose badly, and nothing good will come of this. There is never ever an upside for her, even if you believe her (and they don't need the money). And unfortunately, in this climate, if I were forced to choose a winner, I would chose him (not that I dont believe her).

Litigaton is never the answer, and I was a litigator for 30 years.

Just wow. What a mess (that she created).

I do think they should have settled the whole matter quietly. This will wind up being bad for both of them.

This was a joint project IMO. And I actually think Baldoni has WAY more to lose here -- at the end of all this, Lively may lose whatever remained of her acting career, which honestly wasn't much. She's still rich and famous and besties with Taylor Swift and married to a very powerful and successful hyphenate. She'll be fine.

Baldoni's career is pretty much toast. He had a lot more to lose and I think he lost it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this has already been said, but Blake has been badly advised by her attorney. Both sides are going to lose badly, and nothing good will come of this. There is never ever an upside for her, even if you believe her (and they don't need the money). And unfortunately, in this climate, if I were forced to choose a winner, I would chose him (not that I dont believe her).

Litigaton is never the answer, and I was a litigator for 30 years.

Just wow. What a mess (that she created).

So many bad attorneys like you advised Christine Blasey Ford. Fortunately she didn’t take their advice.

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Anonymous wrote:Any chance a judge approves the gag order? Can anyone here with legal insight provide some clarity?

The are asking for both a protective order (that's what people are referring to as the "gag order") and a hearing to discuss appropriate conduct of counsel moving forward. I can't find a copy of their motion online though so I'm not sure exactly what the are asking the protective order to cover.

They'll get the hearing, that's an easy one and could be rolled into other preliminary hearings the judge might schedule as well. I would expect the judge at the hearing to lecture attorneys on both sides regarding communications to the press, not just Baldoni's lawyers.

I do think there are some things that Baldoni's lawyer has either released or is proposing releasing that the court would consider issuing a PO against. For instance I think it's highly likely the judge could issue a PO preventing Baldoni from releasing footage from the birth scene, where even if you go by Baldoni's complaint, the most Lively was wearing was a pair of underwear briefs on the bottom, and her legs were up in stirrups. That would be an easy one. I am less sure about how the judge would treat other requests for nondisclosure, of stuff like texts/emails between the parties. A lot of it is already in the complaints, I don't know how much else there even is. The judge will have to weight the potentially prejudicial or damaging impact of any potential disclosure against Baldoni's right to defend himself in the court of public opinion. And I don't know if Lively is asking for a blanket PO (unlikely to get) or something more targeted, which is more likely to be successful.

I know the press has a lot of protections, but do you think his case against the New York Times has legitimacy? They left out some key texts. e.g. Two people on his team said there was so much ammo against Justin when it came to the sexual harassment claims, but they left out a part where they both said that those accusations weren't true.

[Anonymous]

In the end I would imagine Ryan and Blake are willing to spend a lot more of their $ to protect their own interests then Steve Sarowitz will want to spend to protect the interests of Wayfarer Studios and Justin Baldoni.

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Anonymous wrote:In the end I would imagine Ryan and Blake are willing to spend a lot more of their $ to protect their own interests then Steve Sarowitz will want to spend to protect the interests of Wayfarer Studios and Justin Baldoni.

I mean, it's not like Steve is funding Justin solely out of the goodness of his heart. He's named in the suit and being accused of having a role in the smear campaign against Lively.

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Anonymous wrote:In the end I would imagine Ryan and Blake are willing to spend a lot more of their $ to protect their own interests then Steve Sarowitz will want to spend to protect the interests of Wayfarer Studios and Justin Baldoni.

I mean, it's not like Steve is funding Justin solely out of the goodness of his heart. He's named in the suit and being accused of having a role in the smear campaign against Lively.

He is a minor player in this though. He only ever visited the set twice and I think they had one comment he made about the press. He could easily slink out of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I just rewatched the dang video again trying to be as neutral as possible. He literally couldn’t say “it smells good” more nonchalantly. It almost even has a question mark after it, like “it smells good?” And he says it fast, almost clipped. To say he was dragging his lips on her and saying “it smells so good” in a salacious way is just a lie. I honestly just can’t see anything he did wrong. There were some almost kisses but he even told her they were coming. Also, he’s playing a creepy abuser!

Before anyone says it to me: Time for me to get a life!

You’re exactly right. Absolutely nothing wrong with this video. It’s absurd that we are talking about sexual harassment and trying to discern it in a video where two people are being paid to be close to each other literally being filmed by several people giving them direction surrounded by dozens of extras. Nothing salacious happened here. And I thought the same thing about the question mark after “it smells good” which by the way was not it smells so good and was not immediately after brushing her neck. Total lie.

It also fits in with the rhythm of the conversation they were having. People mirror other in conversation. It was after she was trying to comfort him about the beard, they were trying to make the other feel better because it’s awkward to be that close to someone for that long who is not your romantic partner.

And let’s face it, we wouldn’t even be looking at the scene if Blake’s team knew if there was audio. Give me a break.

The issue I have with sexual harassment, is the double standard that Blake seems to have. Is it just because she is a woman and so automatically anything done to her would be perceived sexual? Because she doesn’t like when Justin turns things personal, or at least that’s in part of her claim, but she seems to have no problem doing that given the text that she shared and the conversation they had here, which, by the way you said that they shouldn’t even be talking if she had followed his direction.

And she invited him to her apartment twice? I don’t get that. If they weren’t getting along that just seems like a blatant intimidation scheme. If they were getting along, it’s still kind of a power move. I’ll say it again if the roles were reversed, I think we’ll be very skeeved out by that move.

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Anonymous wrote:BL and JB are both so messy. I’m embarrassed for them that this is all being fought so publicly. Neither of them come off as very sympathetic to me. They need to go do private mediation and take a break from the spotlight.

There is about 2 pages here of saving face for Bl by her team. First it was the accusations that they stood by. Then JB hit back with receipts. Now it’s, both sides were wrong and this shouldn’t be so public anymore (after that video yesterday). Let’s all be adults and take this privately now……….

JB has the right to defend himself. She and RR ruined his reputation. This was not SH.

Poor JB!

I have no interest in asserting "poor Blake" or anything here because it's possible she is lying or exaggerating and this is all about business or face saving for her.

But I think it's bizarre to claim confidently there was no harassment when you could not possibly know that and then position Baldoni as the victim. What if you're wrong?

If his podcast host who knows him pretty well, and the actors and crew he's worked on other movies with, have all decided to take a wait and see approach, it's weird that someone who never met any of these people and wasn't present when Amy if this happened would so confident.

Sure. I guess we will just disagree. Nothing that has been presented thus far by BL appears SH as alleged. She had the right to bring receipts also. She hasn’t, and now there is all of this hush-hush talk, let’s go behind closed doors and talk about this.

Sad.

Lively isn't saying "let's go behind closed doors." Her lawyers are saying they should have a normal discovery process and that evidence should be shown in court instead of leaked selectively to the media. They aren't suggesting it never comes out at all.

Interesting that she cares now about not leaking after initially leaking her legal complaint to the NYT.. Do as I say, not as I do.

I agree that was questionable too. But now both complaints with their competing narratives are out there, the correct thing from a legal standpoint would be to disclose evidence to each other via discovery and wait for a trial to make their case (if it gets that far).

The lawyer constantly leaking stuff to the press is going to piss off the judge. It's not just this footage, this dude is clearly playing games. Like sending a letter to the Marvel people about "Nicepool" alleging the character is "bullying" Baldoni. That's a totally meritless allegation (notice he didn't sue them, just sent a letter to studio heads and then, of course, leaked it to the press). It's going to get shut down.

nicepool was credited to a fictional person (gordon reynolds) whom blake thanked in the credits for it ends with us, and nicepool gets killed in front of a flower shop

And? Who cares if he was based on Baldoni? It's not illegal to base a character in someone you don't like. And don't tell me "it's a threat." Please. The character was a joke and people get killed constantly in the Deadpool movies.

There is no cause of action for Baldoni regarding Nicepool, it's just a way to try and drag Reynolds into the whole thing further. Just like he's trying to drag Taylor Swift in even though what even is the allegation there? Swift said nice things about her friend Lively's scene to Baldoni? Oh no, call the cops!

No one said there is a cause of action. It's why they haven't sued Marvel. It's a document preservation request.

Right, a document preservation request... in case he sues. Because he thinks Nicepool is based on him. Which it probably is! And is also not illegal. According to his letter to Marvel/Disney, he thinks the character might have been created to intimidate or "bully" him.

This is nuts.

To review, here are things Baldoni claims were done to "bully" him:

- Taylor Swift telling him she really liked a scene her friend wrote
- Ryan Reynolds being present in a meeting where Lively detailed inappropriate things Baldoni had been doing on set and asked him to stop
- The existence of a [genuinely funny] character in a Deadpool movie that was likely based on Baldoni's persona as a "nice guy male feminist."

None of that is bullying or "intimidation" or whatever else he wants to call it.

He sounds sooooooo ridiculous with this stuff. Coupled with suing the New York Times for reporting on this whole thing? I'm honestly embarrassed for him. I don't think he'll ever work in Hollywood again.

Are you Blake’s team? Cause you left out some key context here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:do you think blake is jealous of margot robbie and jennifer lawrence

Margot Robbie and Jennifer Lawrence are both 10x more talented, beautiful, and charismatic than Blake Lively. She never had a chance of having careers like theirs.

[Anonymous]

I'm just a regular middle aded woman here. Watched gossip girl in my youth. Saw movie, thought terrible - in that that is not the reality of most domestic abuse cases. More fluffy than Gossip Girl. That being said, I found it pleasant to watch the train wreck although was a bit disappointed in how dumb and unrealistic a lot of it was. But I watched it both ways on my trip out west and back.

I would say if I had to pick a team, it would be Baldoni. Lively comes across as some diva who didn't get her way, and is using her wealth and status to have a temper tantrum. I guess Baldoni should not have used a PR team to dig dirt on her, but he only dug up stuff that was there. She is making up stuff like wanting to get on the MeToo band wagon. I watched the video of the filming. Looked friendly enough. If she didn't like it, she could have walked away from the scene, didn't she do three takes with him?

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should say middle-aged ^^^^

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Anonymous wrote:do you think blake is jealous of margot robbie and jennifer lawrence

No? I doubt she would have had 4 kids if she wanted that career and life.

Eh, hard to tell. Blake's been pushed by the machine from a young age and basically no one was biting, because her talent is minimal. She's ended up in basically the best place possible for someone who is a C List actor but now a super rich billionaire. Hollywood people have insane egos though, and money compounds that. I do think she wanted that (acclaim and recognition), at least at some point. Her pics on the Town indicated as such. She's leaning into the mom thing which I think is cute but she's fundamentally kind of a shit actress and always has been. Margot and Jennifer can bring it in a way Blake has never been capable so, in my mind, maybe they were peers at one poit but no longer are. Nothing to do with the kids FFS.

Agree esp since she was promoting this movie like it was Barbie.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just a regular middle aded woman here. Watched gossip girl in my youth. Saw movie, thought terrible - in that that is not the reality of most domestic abuse cases. More fluffy than Gossip Girl. That being said, I found it pleasant to watch the train wreck although was a bit disappointed in how dumb and unrealistic a lot of it was. But I watched it both ways on my trip out west and back.

I would say if I had to pick a team, it would be Baldoni. Lively comes across as some diva who didn't get her way, and is using her wealth and status to have a temper tantrum. I guess Baldoni should not have used a PR team to dig dirt on her, but he only dug up stuff that was there. She is making up stuff like wanting to get on the MeToo band wagon. I watched the video of the filming. Looked friendly enough. If she didn't like it, she could have walked away from the scene, didn't she do three takes with him?

I am not a Lively fan by any stretch, but I found her surprisingly good in "The Town," where she played a down on her luck single mother. She even did a good Boston accent.