Gaza war and College Campus Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is the outcry from all democrats about Hersh’s murder? Nowhere. Only Jews posting anything.
The far left are total hypocrites.

One (former) friend of mine on the far left expressed about a month ago that we should just give up on the hostages, because their lives are not worth the continued devastation to Palestinians in Gaza. Basically, she feels that "ceasefire now" should simply mean that Israel stops bombing, no negotiations for the hostages, just leave them to their fates. It's awful.

Do you not realize that your friend's opinion is only that, your friend's.

And PP above, the outpouring for Hersh is all over the place, including from Biden and Harris.

This thread is so full of endless BS from both sides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The long-term solution is that Israel is going to need to occupy Gaza forever to maintain law and order there. If the Palestinians don't like it, let them move to some other Arab nation.

Israel is not going to occupy Gaza. And Palestinians in Gaza have nowhere else to go. A few wealthy Palestinians have been able to buy their way out of Gaza, but no one else is leaving. All regional countries - Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt - will remain closed to Palestinians until the end of time. Given past history, no country is opening their borders to Palestinian refugees ever again.

Israel will stay until all the bodies of the hostages are retrieved. They got six more yesterday, all recently shot at point blank range by their captors. There's nothing left to negotiate with Hamas. They will kill those few hostages that have remained alive. Israel will also continue to seek Sinwar and Hamas targets of opportunity. But they have no intention of staying and governing. Once Sinwar is dead, Israel will move on. There will be new elections in Israel, and Netanyahu and the rest of the idiots will be removed. Life will move on.

A far Gaza, there will be a big wall. And no one will care what happens inside. Gaza chose war and invasion. Total isolation and misery will be their victory.

Here is a reminder from Miko Peled, former IDF Special Forces, on what this violent conflict is all about, “Israel is staging a prolonged assault on the Palestinian people’s very means of existence—destroying homes, hospitals, sanitation infrastructure, food and water sources, schools, and more. To understand the genocidal campaign unfolding before our eyes, we must examine the roots of Israeli society. Israel is a settler colonial state whose existence depends on the elimination of Palestinians. Accordingly, Israel is a deeply militarized society whose citizens are raised in an environment of historical revisionism and indoctrination that whitewashes Israel’s crimes while cultivating a deep-seated racism against Palestinians.”.

https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/

This rings true to me, closely knowing Palestinians and other Americans who have lworked in Palestinian Territories for years and also closely knowing Jewish americans and Israelis. I’ve posted things here critical of the Israeli state, but I’m genuinely saddened to hear the news of the Israeli hostages, especially the American, Hersh.

There are tens of thousands of Palestinians that the American media could have humanized in the same manner as it chose to feature this former IDF soldier who was born in the USA but moved to Israel as a child. We are being indoctrinated to extend sympathy in only one direction.

Indoctrinated? Americans should be sad that another American was kidnapped for months and killed. What are you even saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The long-term solution is that Israel is going to need to occupy Gaza forever to maintain law and order there. If the Palestinians don't like it, let them move to some other Arab nation.

Israel is not going to occupy Gaza. And Palestinians in Gaza have nowhere else to go. A few wealthy Palestinians have been able to buy their way out of Gaza, but no one else is leaving. All regional countries - Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt - will remain closed to Palestinians until the end of time. Given past history, no country is opening their borders to Palestinian refugees ever again.

Israel will stay until all the bodies of the hostages are retrieved. They got six more yesterday, all recently shot at point blank range by their captors. There's nothing left to negotiate with Hamas. They will kill those few hostages that have remained alive. Israel will also continue to seek Sinwar and Hamas targets of opportunity. But they have no intention of staying and governing. Once Sinwar is dead, Israel will move on. There will be new elections in Israel, and Netanyahu and the rest of the idiots will be removed. Life will move on.

A far Gaza, there will be a big wall. And no one will care what happens inside. Gaza chose war and invasion. Total isolation and misery will be their victory.

Here is a reminder from Miko Peled, former IDF Special Forces, on what this violent conflict is all about, “Israel is staging a prolonged assault on the Palestinian people’s very means of existence—destroying homes, hospitals, sanitation infrastructure, food and water sources, schools, and more. To understand the genocidal campaign unfolding before our eyes, we must examine the roots of Israeli society. Israel is a settler colonial state whose existence depends on the elimination of Palestinians. Accordingly, Israel is a deeply militarized society whose citizens are raised in an environment of historical revisionism and indoctrination that whitewashes Israel’s crimes while cultivating a deep-seated racism against Palestinians.”.

https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/

This rings true to me, closely knowing Palestinians and other Americans who have lworked in Palestinian Territories for years and also closely knowing Jewish americans and Israelis. I’ve posted things here critical of the Israeli state, but I’m genuinely saddened to hear the news of the Israeli hostages, especially the American, Hersh.

There are tens of thousands of Palestinians that the American media could have humanized in the same manner as it chose to feature this former IDF soldier who was born in the USA but moved to Israel as a child. We are being indoctrinated to extend sympathy in only one direction.

Indoctrinated? Americans should be sad that another American was kidnapped for months and killed. What are you even saying?

I see pictures of Hersh and his parents and his death makes me sad. So needless. But the PP is correct. Why should only Jews lost in this conflict matter to people? We can mourn the Jewish hostages and still see the truth of this one-sided campaign, because we are not blinded by tribalism. We should feel sadness for all Israelis AND Palestinian civilians lost to this horrible conflict. Why does a Jewish life matter more than a Palestinian life? Why should an American life matter more than one of the other Israeli hostages? All of these people were loved by someone who now feels their loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:zionism is evil

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. . .We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"
- MoD Yoav Gallant

No, they’re doing the right thing. Hamas must be extinguished.

The implicit thrust of your thread is “by any means necessary.” So you’ll support Israel murdering any number of innocent Palestinians if it yields the death of a single Hamas militant.

Don’t be surprised when the rest of the world flips that logic on Zionists, calls them all “animals,” and supports their total “extinguishment.”

What “innocent palestinians” have been “murdered?”

Only Hamas is keeping a tally of deaths in Gaza (a highly inflated tally, BTW).

Hamas flatly refuses to say how many of the alleged “40,000 dead” were actually Hamas fighters (or Islamic Jihad. Or another armed Palestinian paramilitary).

Ergo, we can only believe all the alleged 40,000 were actually armed terrorists (don’t forget: Hamas is a designated terrorist organization).

[Anonymous]

They were alive. They were executed. I think it’s ok to take one minute to focus on them. It doesn’t take away from all the misery. There’s enough misery to go around. If we can pause to inoculate 600,000+ kids maybe we can take two second to just rest on the fact that for 329 days those 6 people lived underground alive. And were shot point blank by their captors. It doesn’t matter if they were Jewish, Bedouin, Muslim, Druze, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The long-term solution is that Israel is going to need to occupy Gaza forever to maintain law and order there. If the Palestinians don't like it, let them move to some other Arab nation.

Israel is not going to occupy Gaza. And Palestinians in Gaza have nowhere else to go. A few wealthy Palestinians have been able to buy their way out of Gaza, but no one else is leaving. All regional countries - Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt - will remain closed to Palestinians until the end of time. Given past history, no country is opening their borders to Palestinian refugees ever again.

Israel will stay until all the bodies of the hostages are retrieved. They got six more yesterday, all recently shot at point blank range by their captors. There's nothing left to negotiate with Hamas. They will kill those few hostages that have remained alive. Israel will also continue to seek Sinwar and Hamas targets of opportunity. But they have no intention of staying and governing. Once Sinwar is dead, Israel will move on. There will be new elections in Israel, and Netanyahu and the rest of the idiots will be removed. Life will move on.

A far Gaza, there will be a big wall. And no one will care what happens inside. Gaza chose war and invasion. Total isolation and misery will be their victory.

Here is a reminder from Miko Peled, former IDF Special Forces, on what this violent conflict is all about, “Israel is staging a prolonged assault on the Palestinian people’s very means of existence—destroying homes, hospitals, sanitation infrastructure, food and water sources, schools, and more. To understand the genocidal campaign unfolding before our eyes, we must examine the roots of Israeli society. Israel is a settler colonial state whose existence depends on the elimination of Palestinians. Accordingly, Israel is a deeply militarized society whose citizens are raised in an environment of historical revisionism and indoctrination that whitewashes Israel’s crimes while cultivating a deep-seated racism against Palestinians.”.

https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/

This rings true to me, closely knowing Palestinians and other Americans who have lworked in Palestinian Territories for years and also closely knowing Jewish americans and Israelis. I’ve posted things here critical of the Israeli state, but I’m genuinely saddened to hear the news of the Israeli hostages, especially the American, Hersh.

There are tens of thousands of Palestinians that the American media could have humanized in the same manner as it chose to feature this former IDF soldier who was born in the USA but moved to Israel as a child. We are being indoctrinated to extend sympathy in only one direction.

Indoctrinated? Americans should be sad that another American was kidnapped for months and killed. What are you even saying?

I see pictures of Hersh and his parents and his death makes me sad. So needless. But the PP is correct. Why should only Jews lost in this conflict matter to people? We can mourn the Jewish hostages and still see the truth of this one-sided campaign, because we are not blinded by tribalism. We should feel sadness for all Israelis AND Palestinian civilians lost to this horrible conflict. Why does a Jewish life matter more than a Palestinian life? Why should an American life matter more than one of the other Israeli hostages? All of these people were loved by someone who now feels their loss.

Far too human of a response for the deranged individuals in here defending Israel's policies and actions, weaponizing past wrongs in a horrifying attempt to justify viciously settling scores today. 40,000+ dead. Hundreds of thousands with long-term care necessary to treat wounds. Millions displaced from their homes.

The very definition of unevolved, which is ironic since so many of those same people label the Palestinians "animals", "subhuman filth", and "unevolved savages".

I'll never accept that one Jewish life is worth more than one Muslim life. I'll never accept that one Israeli life is worth more than one Palestinian or Arab or Christian life. Israel's failure to exercise restraint in their vengeance campaigns and repeated provocations in the region will inevitably lead to great loss in the Israeli community (and globally, the Jewish community, too) when the pendulum swings.

And that will be the very unfortunate byproduct of the policies and actions of the State of Israel today.

Nobody else will be to blame. If we have to endure being lectured about Hamas being responsible for IDF bombs being dropped on schools and hospital ICU units, and the snipers picking off children and elderly women, we cannot allow blame for the consequences to fall anywhere other than on Israel's shoulders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:zionism is evil

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. . .We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"
- MoD Yoav Gallant

No, they’re doing the right thing. Hamas must be extinguished.

The implicit thrust of your thread is “by any means necessary.” So you’ll support Israel murdering any number of innocent Palestinians if it yields the death of a single Hamas militant.

Don’t be surprised when the rest of the world flips that logic on Zionists, calls them all “animals,” and supports their total “extinguishment.”

What “innocent palestinians” have been “murdered?”

Only Hamas is keeping a tally of deaths in Gaza (a highly inflated tally, BTW).

Hamas flatly refuses to say how many of the alleged “40,000 dead” were actually Hamas fighters (or Islamic Jihad. Or another armed Palestinian paramilitary).

Ergo, we can only believe all the alleged 40,000 were actually armed terrorists (don’t forget: Hamas is a designated terrorist organization).

You would have to be woefully ignorant or in a state of complete denial not to be aware of the many Palestinian children who have been murdered by Israel.

Sometimes we see their pictures; rarely, if ever, do we know their stories or those of their parents, who have suffered tremendously.

But, because this Israeli-American, who served in the IDF (or, as some would say, the IOF) and his parents have gotten the People magazine treatment, we are programmed to mourn his death far more than the deaths of Palestinians at the hands of Israel.

The fact that you choose to minimize or ignore this reality only underscores the necessity of the ongoing college protests. There should be consequences, both in Israel and the US, for those who commit and fund the ongoing murders of Palestinian civilians by the Zionists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:zionism is evil

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. . .We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"
- MoD Yoav Gallant

No, they’re doing the right thing. Hamas must be extinguished.

The implicit thrust of your thread is “by any means necessary.” So you’ll support Israel murdering any number of innocent Palestinians if it yields the death of a single Hamas militant.

Don’t be surprised when the rest of the world flips that logic on Zionists, calls them all “animals,” and supports their total “extinguishment.”

What “innocent palestinians” have been “murdered?”

Only Hamas is keeping a tally of deaths in Gaza (a highly inflated tally, BTW).

Hamas flatly refuses to say how many of the alleged “40,000 dead” were actually Hamas fighters (or Islamic Jihad. Or another armed Palestinian paramilitary).

Ergo, we can only believe all the alleged 40,000 were actually armed terrorists (don’t forget: Hamas is a designated terrorist organization).

You're an irredeemable moron. The State of Israel's HHSA equivalent relies on the same numbers. They believe them.'

The IDF explicitly reported that it is THEIR position that 2/3 of the dead are innocent civilians, and they reported that with pride because they thought that number made their campaign look effective. So the State of Israel and their armed forces believe the numbers, but you don't? Who the F are you?

[Anonymous]

Maybe if Trump didn't cut a side deal with Netanyahu to prolong these version of the war, the deal for a cease fire and hostage release would have taken place weeks or months ago.

[Anonymous]

Where are the stories of the 6 Palestinian teens killed by Israel in the West Bank last week? Where are the stories of the thousands of innocents killed in Gaza? Every hour in Gaza:
15 people are killed – 6 are children
35 people are injured
42 bombs are dropped*
12 buildings are destroyed
Why don’t we know their names?

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/longform/2023/11/1/know-their-names-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-attacks-on-gaza

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The long-term solution is that Israel is going to need to occupy Gaza forever to maintain law and order there. If the Palestinians don't like it, let them move to some other Arab nation.

Israel is not going to occupy Gaza. And Palestinians in Gaza have nowhere else to go. A few wealthy Palestinians have been able to buy their way out of Gaza, but no one else is leaving. All regional countries - Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt - will remain closed to Palestinians until the end of time. Given past history, no country is opening their borders to Palestinian refugees ever again.

Israel will stay until all the bodies of the hostages are retrieved. They got six more yesterday, all recently shot at point blank range by their captors. There's nothing left to negotiate with Hamas. They will kill those few hostages that have remained alive. Israel will also continue to seek Sinwar and Hamas targets of opportunity. But they have no intention of staying and governing. Once Sinwar is dead, Israel will move on. There will be new elections in Israel, and Netanyahu and the rest of the idiots will be removed. Life will move on.

A far Gaza, there will be a big wall. And no one will care what happens inside. Gaza chose war and invasion. Total isolation and misery will be their victory.

Here is a reminder from Miko Peled, former IDF Special Forces, on what this violent conflict is all about, “Israel is staging a prolonged assault on the Palestinian people’s very means of existence—destroying homes, hospitals, sanitation infrastructure, food and water sources, schools, and more. To understand the genocidal campaign unfolding before our eyes, we must examine the roots of Israeli society. Israel is a settler colonial state whose existence depends on the elimination of Palestinians. Accordingly, Israel is a deeply militarized society whose citizens are raised in an environment of historical revisionism and indoctrination that whitewashes Israel’s crimes while cultivating a deep-seated racism against Palestinians.”.

https://mronline.org/2024/01/17/the-idfs-war-crimes-are-a-perfect-reflection-of-israeli-society/

This rings true to me, closely knowing Palestinians and other Americans who have lworked in Palestinian Territories for years and also closely knowing Jewish americans and Israelis. I’ve posted things here critical of the Israeli state, but I’m genuinely saddened to hear the news of the Israeli hostages, especially the American, Hersh.

There are tens of thousands of Palestinians that the American media could have humanized in the same manner as it chose to feature this former IDF soldier who was born in the USA but moved to Israel as a child. We are being indoctrinated to extend sympathy in only one direction.

Indoctrinated? Americans should be sad that another American was kidnapped for months and killed. What are you even saying?

I see pictures of Hersh and his parents and his death makes me sad. So needless. But the PP is correct. Why should only Jews lost in this conflict matter to people? We can mourn the Jewish hostages and still see the truth of this one-sided campaign, because we are not blinded by tribalism. We should feel sadness for all Israelis AND Palestinian civilians lost to this horrible conflict. Why does a Jewish life matter more than a Palestinian life? Why should an American life matter more than one of the other Israeli hostages? All of these people were loved by someone who now feels their loss.

Far too human of a response for the deranged individuals in here defending Israel's policies and actions, weaponizing past wrongs in a horrifying attempt to justify viciously settling scores today. 40,000+ dead. Hundreds of thousands with long-term care necessary to treat wounds. Millions displaced from their homes.

The very definition of unevolved, which is ironic since so many of those same people label the Palestinians "animals", "subhuman filth", and "unevolved savages".

I'll never accept that one Jewish life is worth more than one Muslim life. I'll never accept that one Israeli life is worth more than one Palestinian or Arab or Christian life. Israel's failure to exercise restraint in their vengeance campaigns and repeated provocations in the region will inevitably lead to great loss in the Israeli community (and globally, the Jewish community, too) when the pendulum swings.

And that will be the very unfortunate byproduct of the policies and actions of the State of Israel today.

Nobody else will be to blame. If we have to endure being lectured about Hamas being responsible for IDF bombs being dropped on schools and hospital ICU units, and the snipers picking off children and elderly women, we cannot allow blame for the consequences to fall anywhere other than on Israel's shoulders.

You’re like the people who were cheering in the streets on October 8. You’re trying to act like you are intelligent and evolved and humanistic, but you cannot stand one day for people to empathize with innocent Israelis who were held hostage for 11 months before they were murdered.

My heart hurts for people who were killed on both sides and I also believe both sides have gotten a lot of sympathy and attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:zionism is evil

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. . .We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly"
- MoD Yoav Gallant

No, they’re doing the right thing. Hamas must be extinguished.

The implicit thrust of your thread is “by any means necessary.” So you’ll support Israel murdering any number of innocent Palestinians if it yields the death of a single Hamas militant.

Don’t be surprised when the rest of the world flips that logic on Zionists, calls them all “animals,” and supports their total “extinguishment.”

What “innocent palestinians” have been “murdered?”

Only Hamas is keeping a tally of deaths in Gaza (a highly inflated tally, BTW).

Hamas flatly refuses to say how many of the alleged “40,000 dead” were actually Hamas fighters (or Islamic Jihad. Or another armed Palestinian paramilitary).

Ergo, we can only believe all the alleged 40,000 were actually armed terrorists (don’t forget: Hamas is a designated terrorist organization).

Do you think a 1 day old newborn is responsible for Hamas too? I’m just curious why all Palestinians are responsible for Hamas atrocities or “voting them in” but not all Israelis are responsible for Netanyahu or IdF atrocities.

Comments like what you posted just prove that Jews do want a genocide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another American hostage murdered yesterday, in addition to five other young hostages.

I find the restraint of the US Administration remarkable. In other other circumstances, we would be hunting and obliterating Hamas everywhere. The amount of sway Palestinians have over Washington is ridiculous. The gloves should be off. We should be in Gaza finishing off these terrorists.

Send Jewish American kids first

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The long-term solution is that Israel is going to need to occupy Gaza forever to maintain law and order there. If the Palestinians don't like it, let them move to some other Arab nation.

They can barely maintain “law and order” in Israel.

Netanyahu is not liked by his own administration

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is the outcry from all democrats about Hersh’s murder? Nowhere. Only Jews posting anything.
The far left are total hypocrites.

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Already seen statements. Maybe you need new sources of information.

I’m not talking about Biden and Harris - I’m talking about the idiot protestors who are the subject of this thread.