Fire in upper NW?

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Actually, no. You sound a bit cold. Even murderers often spare the lives of kids. This guy is a piece of work.

The types of murderers who distinguish in the way you're suggesting are either (i) those who know they are going to die or be killed either way (e.g., the suicide gunman who shoots up a movie theater but hopes no kids are killed) or (ii) those who are killing for sport but expect to get away with it either way (DC snipers).

This is not a serial killer situation. It's a robbery. All the criminals want is money and the ability to escape without future capture. In DW's mind, he was 99% likely to walk away with the cash and never be caught. However, the only way to achieve those odds is to kill everyone who knows what happened (or will call police once thy leave). Part of the escape plan here is that it will take hours before police know there was a murder, and days before they have a basic understanding of the factual scenario that unfolded.

For example, burning the Porsche is much harder to do if police are on the hunt for suspects because a 10 year old boy is in police custody telling them what happened. Part of the reason he wasn't caught at that time was because their was no APB at that time out for a murder, or for that car.

I'm not cold, I'm just a realist.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By the way, the police must already know this from neighbors, but there was a lot of road work going on right on that area earlier in the week. The road guys were wearing green construction vests. So if the attackers were wearing the green vests, they would have blended right in -- assuming that they were not actually some of the road work guys.

That also could have been how they gained entry to the house - posing at the roadwork guys.

That is definitely it given those were found in the garage. Sickening. Guys like this should get the middle east trial

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The #MansionMurders ? really? is that how they are calling it?

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I want them to get everyone in this heinous crim!

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't they charge the hostage holding as kidnapping, which is a federal crime. With murder associated with the kidnapping, that would make the lowlife eligible for the death penalty.

I believe the federal kidnapping statute requires a victim to be transported across state lines. There is also a Hostage Taking statute, but it has other potentially problematic requirements that might not be met here.

In any event, the fact that a state/district doesn't have the death penalty in its criminal statute is not a reason to strain to find a federal charge. If they people of the District wanted to the death penalty for heinous murder, they could have the DC Council legislate that.

There is a Federal Death penalty for Murder that combines either Arson, Murder of a Child, or Kidnapping. The interstate nexus is clear.

The feds could in theory step in, take him from DC's jurisdiction, and fry him if they chose, as they did with Timothy McVeigh and will with the Marathon Bomber.

Will they? Normally I would say no. But the crime was so heinous, I would bet he gets indicted by both DC and the feds, as VA and MD did with the DC Snipers, so if an error is made that gets him clear, the second separate trial will be in train. Having a Federal death penalty case lined up behind DC's is certainly an incentive to cooperate.

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Anonymous wrote:The #MansionMurders ? really? is that how they are calling it?

sounds like something a cable tv network would market to sensationalize it for the dumber segment of america (which is very large)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

The assistant told two very different versions of how he picked up and then dropped off the money. He only changed his story when confronted by police with text messages that contradicted his first version.

What was the assistant's motive for not telling the truth to the police the first time??

[Anonymous]

If the car was seen on New York Avenue NE then it must have been driven down Massachusetts Avenue through DuPont Circle and downtown. There are several speed and red light cameras and embassy and other surveillance cameras all along that route.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

The assistant told two very different versions of how he picked up and then dropped off the money. He only changed his story when confronted by police with text messages that contradicted his first version.

What was the assistant's motive for not telling the truth to the police the first time??

No one will believe me but... The husband once told me he was spending a year in the carribean to avoid certain tax issues. My guess is either a) the assistant was accustomed to some cash dealings and spoke before he knew of the murder, b) the assistant assumed hed be fired if he told the truth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

The assistant told two very different versions of how he picked up and then dropped off the money. He only changed his story when confronted by police with text messages that contradicted his first version.

What was the assistant's motive for not telling the truth to the police the first time??

Im sure police have done 50 background checks on him in the last week.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens now with the two daughters? Where will they live, who will take care of them, how will their school be paid? I believe there are relatives in Florida, perhaps they'd move down there? Just so heartbreaking for them. I pray they'll be able to move onward and get the help they need, emotionally, spiritually, monetarily. I couldn't imagine being in their shoes. Those poor girls.

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Their lives are destroyed. They will never ever recover from this. Even if they are shielded somehow from the worst details of what happened to their family they will find out one day. I wish with all my heart those scumbags had been aborted, hit by a car, whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

The assistant told two very different versions of how he picked up and then dropped off the money. He only changed his story when confronted by police with text messages that contradicted his first version.

What was the assistant's motive for not telling the truth to the police the first time??

I would like to know this as well. If he had orders from his boss, there is no need to have amnesia to the events that took place, unless you are trying to clear your name.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the charging docs. I don't think they mean the boy was burned alive (at least not purposely). I think the intent was to kill everyone and then douse them all with gasoline and burn them and any evidence. But they were in separate rooms and the fire started in the child' bedroom and then didn't fully ignite the other room. It is clear that the other three were killed by trauma because their bodies were never consumed in flame. The child is unclear at best, but likely also beat (please, god quickly) and dead or nearly so (i.e. unconscious) when fire started.

I'd like to think he was in the other room, his bedroom, in bed out of kindness. They were letting the kid lie down.

Out of kindness? It would be nice to believe that, but I don't. Phillip's cause of death was thermal injuries: BURNS and sharp force injuries: STAB wounds. No kindness involved. It was sick, sadistic behavior. How horrifying for his family to have to know these details.

Yes, this "out of kindness" language is really odd. There is absolutely nothing about the child's experience that suggests the murderers were acting "out of kindness." Sorry reality in this case isn't isn't what you want, OP. Please know that I'm genuinely sorry, not sarcastically sorry. As you probably are, I'm utterly sickened and devastated, knowing what these innocents suffered. To the point where I'm unable to stop crying.

it's a horrible horrible situation, but it's a little odd to be unable to stop crying about this, if it's not your fam/friends

Agreed. And I've def felt creeped out all week but crying nonstop? No.

I think many of us have been emotionally affected by these murders. Let's not nitpick each other's posts. Doubt the poster meant "nonstop" crying.

It's understandable that we all want to gain a sense of control over these events. Achieving that control in a constructive way will serve us all well.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the assistant was in in it too???