LMVSC town hall

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.


I have a younger DS. I do appreciate your input. This has been my worry, and it sounds like it’ll only get worse. Last season in our first travel year, we only had one PAT night of teams mixed. This year, it’s every night. And during the townhall, they said only a core group of 6-7 players would stay on the red squad, everybody else will get moved. Which means there isn’t enough games to identify the potential of the best team.

We’re going to ask to remove our acceptance and look elsewhere. DS is still young enough to make it at Arlington or Alexandria.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.


This. This is why we’re so upset. There’s been absolutely no consideration for developing competitive players for the purposes of moving on in their careers. I heard more about community and citizens with character than I did about the collegiate process. CCL does have good exposure but our team is unable to compete in CCL, I doubt we in stay in it. We’ve already left CCL2.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.



So the 03 team is breaking up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.



So the 03 team is breaking up?


Boys or girls? Yes.
Anonymous
The 2003 girls mostly broke apart last season, many more so this season. The 2003 boys this season I believe all came from an outside club, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them leave. There was only one 2004 boys and girls team each, and the boys weren’t even in CCL. The girls only mustered one win. So maybe they just fuse 2004/2003/2002 players together under 2002.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 2003 girls mostly broke apart last season, many more so this season. The 2003 boys this season I believe all came from an outside club, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them leave. There was only one 2004 boys and girls team each, and the boys weren’t even in CCL. The girls only mustered one win. So maybe they just fuse 2004/2003/2002 players together under 2002.



I thought there were two 2003 boys teams in the fall? But only one 2004 boys team? What is going on with these two ages groups on the BOYS side?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The 2003 girls mostly broke apart last season, many more so this season. The 2003 boys this season I believe all came from an outside club, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them leave. There was only one 2004 boys and girls team each, and the boys weren’t even in CCL. The girls only mustered one win. So maybe they just fuse 2004/2003/2002 players together under 2002.



I thought there were two 2003 boys teams in the fall? But only one 2004 boys team? What is going on with these two ages groups on the BOYS side?!


I bet 2003 boys team white team doesn’t return. 2003 boys red team breaks apart (U18 showcase season, top players will try to find competitive team). 2004 boys team might return but still won’t be in CCL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.


I can’t say it’s identical as our situation, but it’s nearly identical. First year as well, red team as well, minimal ability for most teammates to challenge as well, coaching didn’t exactly give much confidence in the ability to fix the problem. I don’t think they’ve even identified the problem.

And yes, we’ve left as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.


For older players, this is where the current red teams were in like-minded competition formats. Speaks to the degree which PP discusses regarding wanting to get into college soccer. PP, I appreciate your candid and honest take on things.

February CCL Showcase:
02 Boys: 0-4 vs Loudoun, 0-8 vs Arlington, 3-5 vs Sporting CP
03 Boys (who all came from Annandale): 3-3 vs Arlington, 2-2 vs Loudoun
04 Boys: did not participate due to not competing in CCL

02 Girls: 1-0 vs Arlinton, 2-2 vs Loudoun
03 Girls: 1-6 vs Loudoun, 1-1 vs Arlington (0-4 a month later)
04 Girls: 3-2 vs Arlington, 0-2 vs Loudoun

Loudoun Showcase:
05 Boys (Loudoun Showcase): 0-4 GFR, 1-6 FCV, 2-1 Stafford
05 Girls (Loudoun Showcase): 1-2 vs Rochester, 1-2 vs MESC, 0-2 vs Maryland Rush
Anonymous
Those were Arlington's and Loudoun's second teams, not the DA and ECNL.
Anonymous
Anybody get an answer on why we have to buy new uniforms this year? I get it, there's a two-year cycle. But at the same time, fees are high and COVID-19 didn't help us out financially. Can we simply wear our old uniforms?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anybody get an answer on why we have to buy new uniforms this year? I get it, there's a two-year cycle. But at the same time, fees are high and COVID-19 didn't help us out financially. Can we simply wear our old uniforms?


Because players new to the club and players that have outgrown their uniform won't be able to find the old uniform to purchase.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anybody get an answer on why we have to buy new uniforms this year? I get it, there's a two-year cycle. But at the same time, fees are high and COVID-19 didn't help us out financially. Can we simply wear our old uniforms?


Because players new to the club and players that have outgrown their uniform won't be able to find the old uniform to purchase.


there's not going to be that many new players joining to necessitate the entire club buying new uniforms. as far as 'they don't fit anymore' i guess maybe. these uniforms are very expensive and i don't think i'll be able to afford them. we don't have that many players on our team, meaning team fees will be even higher this year.
Anonymous
this is an extra $157.28, on top of the $1,950.00. team fees wil probably be another $400

this is before the hotel costs and gas in the tank. i will end up spending almost $3000!? all so we can go down to VA Beach and not even compete. is there any way DD team is allowed to wear old uniforms or play in NCSL? i understand several of our red teams chose NCSL over CCL, is this an option for all of us?
Anonymous
The uniform issue come from the uniform manufacturers screw us by discontinuing uniforms every two years. You could definitely keep shorts and socks from last year - the jersey is the issue. You’d have to see how different the new ones look. I think you could always try to find them cheaper online without the number and iron one on from michaels or something?? And the white one is probably easier to keep from last year than the navy because of the navy stripe pattern.

I get the shorts and socks from Amazon every year because they’re always cheaper than at soccer.com
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