LMVSC town hall

[Anonymous]

A lot of you parents are gonna be really disappointed when you a) find out that your dc doesn't make the top team at whatever club you go to, and b) other clubs don't have some golden program where kids on the 2nd and 3rd teams get the same attention as a top team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the new training will be A. Not that different from before and B. Better because it is forcing collaboration and coordination within the age group

I think you will mostly just be with your team and coach, but you’ll at least be in the same place so that you can scrimmage, do drills together, etc.

I thought last nights meeting was a lot better than the original town hall.

I get that people are all wrapped up in $$ details and that’s completely understandable in this environment. But the bottom line is our refund is the same as Alexandria’s and we don’t even come close to having the huge cash reserves they have. Everyone is doing their best. You can argue that that’s not good enough and there are areas where you’re completely right, but i think everyone has good intentions.

We are staying. For now.

Respectfully disagree. You stated that the training will not be different. Last year the training started to decline from prior years. They started trying this academy model due to white/blue parents having concerns, and I get it, it makes sense. However the red team parents were not offered opportunities to training with older kids and/or more skilled players. In fact, red team players were being grouped with blue team players. I think there needs to be a balance to satisfy players with various skill levels. In regards to item B how is this model forcing collaborating/coordination. That should be inherent to the training of all age groups…why have age specific DOCs if this wasn’t happening. Nothing will change here. In regards to last nights meeting Lee made it clear that the training will be the SAME for all players. Red team might just do the drills faster. To me you tailor the training to the player skills/ability and not a general training for all age groups.
Totally cool if folks want to stay. I know everyone’s mileage will vary. Just offering a different perspective.

We out.

Valid opinion but my kid's age groups did not see any "academy" throughout the fall. During the winter there was more combined training in my kid's age group with white and blue but when they were grouped, it was always within their appropriate level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the new training will be A. Not that different from before and B. Better because it is forcing collaboration and coordination within the age group

I think you will mostly just be with your team and coach, but you’ll at least be in the same place so that you can scrimmage, do drills together, etc.

I thought last nights meeting was a lot better than the original town hall.

I get that people are all wrapped up in $$ details and that’s completely understandable in this environment. But the bottom line is our refund is the same as Alexandria’s and we don’t even come close to having the huge cash reserves they have. Everyone is doing their best. You can argue that that’s not good enough and there are areas where you’re completely right, but i think everyone has good intentions.

We are staying. For now.

+2

for us it's -1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the new training will be A. Not that different from before and B. Better because it is forcing collaboration and coordination within the age group

I think you will mostly just be with your team and coach, but you’ll at least be in the same place so that you can scrimmage, do drills together, etc.

I thought last nights meeting was a lot better than the original town hall.

I get that people are all wrapped up in $$ details and that’s completely understandable in this environment. But the bottom line is our refund is the same as Alexandria’s and we don’t even come close to having the huge cash reserves they have. Everyone is doing their best. You can argue that that’s not good enough and there are areas where you’re completely right, but i think everyone has good intentions.

We are staying. For now.

Respectfully disagree. You stated that the training will not be different. Last year the training started to decline from prior years. They started trying this academy model due to white/blue parents having concerns, and I get it, it makes sense. However the red team parents were not offered opportunities to training with older kids and/or more skilled players. In fact, red team players were being grouped with blue team players. I think there needs to be a balance to satisfy players with various skill levels. In regards to item B how is this model forcing collaborating/coordination. That should be inherent to the training of all age groups…why have age specific DOCs if this wasn’t happening. Nothing will change here. In regards to last nights meeting Lee made it clear that the training will be the SAME for all players. Red team might just do the drills faster. To me you tailor the training to the player skills/ability and not a general training for all age groups.
Totally cool if folks want to stay. I know everyone’s mileage will vary. Just offering a different perspective.

We out.

this is what i'm not understanding; either training will be different or the same. they made the academy sound like a new idea, so it sounds different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of you parents are gonna be really disappointed when you a) find out that your dc doesn't make the top team at whatever club you go to, and b) other clubs don't have some golden program where kids on the 2nd and 3rd teams get the same attention as a top team.

tell that to the 2008 red girls (one team), 2007 red girls (one team), 2006 red girls (no team), etc. several of these age groups can't sustain themselves for this academy format

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the new training will be A. Not that different from before and B. Better because it is forcing collaboration and coordination within the age group

I think you will mostly just be with your team and coach, but you’ll at least be in the same place so that you can scrimmage, do drills together, etc.

I thought last nights meeting was a lot better than the original town hall.

I get that people are all wrapped up in $$ details and that’s completely understandable in this environment. But the bottom line is our refund is the same as Alexandria’s and we don’t even come close to having the huge cash reserves they have. Everyone is doing their best. You can argue that that’s not good enough and there are areas where you’re completely right, but i think everyone has good intentions.

We are staying. For now.

Respectfully disagree. You stated that the training will not be different. Last year the training started to decline from prior years. They started trying this academy model due to white/blue parents having concerns, and I get it, it makes sense. However the red team parents were not offered opportunities to training with older kids and/or more skilled players. In fact, red team players were being grouped with blue team players. I think there needs to be a balance to satisfy players with various skill levels. In regards to item B how is this model forcing collaborating/coordination. That should be inherent to the training of all age groups…why have age specific DOCs if this wasn’t happening. Nothing will change here. In regards to last nights meeting Lee made it clear that the training will be the SAME for all players. Red team might just do the drills faster. To me you tailor the training to the player skills/ability and not a general training for all age groups.
Totally cool if folks want to stay. I know everyone’s mileage will vary. Just offering a different perspective.

We out.

Valid opinion but my kid's age groups did not see any "academy" throughout the fall. During the winter there was more combined training in my kid's age group with white and blue but when they were grouped, it was always within their appropriate level.

Well, if you were on the townhall, moving forward it WILL be an academy with standardization (STILL no update on that apparently).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of you parents are gonna be really disappointed when you a) find out that your dc doesn't make the top team at whatever club you go to, and b) other clubs don't have some golden program where kids on the 2nd and 3rd teams get the same attention as a top team.

A lot of parents are upset. This will either help out the red team more or the white team more (I don't think there will be enough players to field any blue teams). We're upset for a lot of reasons, none of which we expect you to understand since you're your own person. But the club decided to do this academy structure and is trying to pretend it's just going to work magically. Probably not going to 'attract top outside players' as some of our own have wished seeing their FB posts asking for travel players.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know how the refunds will work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the refunds will work?

can we still get our refund without coming back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the refunds will work?

can we still get our refund without coming back?

From what I understood yes the option was 15% credit over the course of the year if you renew, 15% cash refund or donate the 15%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the refunds will work?

can we still get our refund without coming back?

From what I understood yes the option was 15% credit over the course of the year if you renew, 15% cash refund or donate the 15%

Thanks. I'll wait a day or two to see if they post anything about the refunds before reaching out to the club - that info really needs to be publicized. We aren't coming back and I don't plan on donating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know how the refunds will work?

can we still get our refund without coming back?

From what I understood yes the option was 15% credit over the course of the year if you renew, 15% cash refund or donate the 15%

Well that's good, as I am seeking a refund without returning.

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Anonymous wrote:What on earth is going on?

15% refund when everyone else is offering more. You have to pay those bloated director salaries after all.

i'm confused, were these team meetings or age group meetings last night? i saw their instagram post on friday trying to get more players; had been considering but i'd like to know what's going on first; moved into the area and looking at Alexandria and Arlington as well (just worried because i heard traffic is bad here but everybody is still social distancing)

It was for current players. LMVSC like all others clubs has things that it can improve on. Those two clubs are currently stronger but nothing wrong with the LMVSC, they are rebuilding but there is some potential within some current teams. If just entering travel nothing wrong with it.

not new to travel (two years previous); what are the things you say they can improve on?

I always thought they could have done better in the past with opportunities for non top team players. In the past most focus has been on top team. Directors only showed up to red team games, at least that changed last year where they came to multiple games. They seem to be trying to address the player opportunities this year as part of their communication so let’s see how it works.

The PAT training for their 3rd practice of the week could be improved. This is where they bring multiple age groups together and kids train with different coaches. I would prefer a 3rd team practice.

i'm reading through these comments and it looks as through all training will now be that way? the pat training (i looked it up on their website)

I was shocked when LMVSC told parents that the PAT training was well received. I thought it was complete chaos. The timing/overlap, the ration of kids to coaches, and the quality of the drills to challenge each level of player. That is the one practice my kid didnt want to attend more so because he couldnt hear the instruction and when they asked they were scolded for not paying attention.

Yeah, and now expand that by every session this year. "Well received". Guess that's why they refused to answer any training question during townhall. Thanks you all! Made a difficult decision really easy for us this year.

[Anonymous]

i see a meeting tomorrow for lmvsc, is this teams meeting or for everybody?

[Anonymous]

Joined LMVSC Red last year and directly familiar with BRYC, AUFC, VIVA, Arlington, and Barca.

LMVSC is late to academy training, especially compared to these other clubs.

Whether this change helps or hurts your player's development depends upon several factors IMHO:

1. Your child's ability and commitment
2. The coach's ability and commitment
3. The team's ability and commitment

Honestly, I found very little difference between and among the clubs. I found huge differences between coaches and players and these differences greatly impacted development.

My player is looking to play college soccer. Our family decided ECNL would be detrimental to academics. Plus the HS team usually challenges for league and state title.

CCL gave decent exposure. Tournament play even more.

Coaching and perhaps half of the Red players were mixed (i.e., inconsistent.) Some of these players were White and never able to "step up" consistently to Red.

That said, LMVSC kind of let this team do its own thing WRT tournaments. For this reason, I think the team matters more than the club...and this was true elsewhere too.

We are not returning.

Much of the decision stems from getting as much college exposure as possible, presuming there's any play in the fall.

The idea that any exposure is good exposure does not cut it if you hope your kid plays in college.

Getting beaten soundly in top flight matches doesn't impress college coaches nor motivate the players either.

If you just want your kid to develop and play, then LMVSC or most any area club will provide this experience.

If your player wants to go into college soccer, LMVSC right now is not a good way to get there.