Official Abortion Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After having a baby, I feel as if the baby is so wonderful, I could never live without him or her.

It’s hard for humans to love someone they’ve never seen- but that’s what you are killing when you abort.

A child you feel as if you’d die without or if something happened to, once you see him or her.

The opposite of love is indifference. The indifference in the pro-choice community to the death of a baby is pure evil.

Hopefully Roe v Wade is overturned. It would be so nice to live in a society that values the lives of innocent babies.

The same women valued as a unborn baby and their life given respect can learn to do so for their babies.

Our disposable, de-humanizing culture can be checked, slightly.

And great for your baby. But not all women who give birth feel like you. And even if they do, not all women are in circumstances where they can raise a child. Or where the child will be well taken care of. It takes a lot of time, and money and care to give a child a good start at life. And many women don’t want to or can’t. Something like half of women who have abortions are already mothers. So they know the new mommy glow. Still doesn’t mean they can raise the 4th kid in poverty.

Your privilege is showing.

My belief that an unborn baby should not be killed is showing.

Poor kids should not be sentenced to death. They are people with a right to life.

A vast majority of the world is born into, lives, and dies in poverty. Do we kill them? Do we discount them?

I am excited to see the tide turning in America. People are going to fight very hard to re-elect Trump so it may continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think most Americans agree with the following:

Safe and legal abortion through the first trimester.
Safe and legal abortion in the third trimester if the health of the mother or the viability of the baby are at risk.

Why not just pass legislation that codifies this; keep the Hyde Amendment in place to satisfy the religious right.

Because the “religious right” will not be satisfied until they can tell you when, where and how to have kids. How to raise those kids. Who to love and marry. Etc.

They aren’t satisfied controlling their lives. The American Taliban— which is a distinct minority in this country— feels the need to control every aspect of yours too.

If it is legislation that is affirmed by a court, then it becomes the law of the land and the religious right can move to Kabul.

No, we are going to overturn Roe v Wade.

After your tantrum, you’ll learn how to pay for and use bc. You’ll survive.

But you’re not. Because even the conservative Court realizes that taking away a right that is widely engrained in American mentality, that most women have had their entire life, and that is very popular (70% do not want it overturned) just because they have a different political composition completely destroys their legitimacy and opens the door to 250 years of case law being called into question. They might chip away at Roe. The might narrow it. But they will find a way not to overturn it and move it back to the states. In this case, Roberts will have to bite the bullet and cross over. And he will to save the Court.

They are also not going to get ride of a woman’s right to birth control, the right to same sex marriage, the right to interracial marriage and Brown v Board. They may allow busing to stop, but they won’t let segregation come back. These are huge cases in America.

Overturning Roe would literally destroy the standing of the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

I believe that they are not allowing abortion for incest or rape because then many women will claim that just to get an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After having a baby, I feel as if the baby is so wonderful, I could never live without him or her.

It’s hard for humans to love someone they’ve never seen- but that’s what you are killing when you abort.

A child you feel as if you’d die without or if something happened to, once you see him or her.

The opposite of love is indifference. The indifference in the pro-choice community to the death of a baby is pure evil.

Hopefully Roe v Wade is overturned. It would be so nice to live in a society that values the lives of innocent babies.

The same women valued as a unborn baby and their life given respect can learn to do so for their babies.

Our disposable, de-humanizing culture can be checked, slightly.

And great for your baby. But not all women who give birth feel like you. And even if they do, not all women are in circumstances where they can raise a child. Or where the child will be well taken care of. It takes a lot of time, and money and care to give a child a good start at life. And many women don’t want to or can’t. Something like half of women who have abortions are already mothers. So they know the new mommy glow. Still doesn’t mean they can raise the 4th kid in poverty.

Your privilege is showing.

My belief that an unborn baby should not be killed is showing.

Poor kids should not be sentenced to death. They are people with a right to life.

A vast majority of the world is born into, lives, and dies in poverty. Do we kill them? Do we discount them?

I am excited to see the tide turning in America. People are going to fight very hard to re-elect Trump so it may continue.

I think you're trolling.

If not, then you will be surprised by the future. Very surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After having a baby, I feel as if the baby is so wonderful, I could never live without him or her.

It’s hard for humans to love someone they’ve never seen- but that’s what you are killing when you abort.

A child you feel as if you’d die without or if something happened to, once you see him or her.

The opposite of love is indifference. The indifference in the pro-choice community to the death of a baby is pure evil.

Hopefully Roe v Wade is overturned. It would be so nice to live in a society that values the lives of innocent babies.

The same women valued as a unborn baby and their life given respect can learn to do so for their babies.

Our disposable, de-humanizing culture can be checked, slightly.

And great for your baby. But not all women who give birth feel like you. And even if they do, not all women are in circumstances where they can raise a child. Or where the child will be well taken care of. It takes a lot of time, and money and care to give a child a good start at life. And many women don’t want to or can’t. Something like half of women who have abortions are already mothers. So they know the new mommy glow. Still doesn’t mean they can raise the 4th kid in poverty.

Your privilege is showing.

My belief that an unborn baby should not be killed is showing.

Poor kids should not be sentenced to death. They are people with a right to life.

A vast majority of the world is born into, lives, and dies in poverty. Do we kill them? Do we discount them?

I am excited to see the tide turning in America. People are going to fight very hard to re-elect Trump so it may continue.

They have a right to a crappy life in abusive family going to bed hungry every night until they are shot in their school?

Pass.

You get to do you. Most of America isn’t behind you. And they aren’t going to be. These bills are for show and will be stayed and die.

The age of Trump has made something click in my brain. It not only tells me where I will never went to move or spend money again. It makes me Republican light, economically. I’d rather have much lower federal taxes and just do the bare minimum and have high state ones. I want to send shithole states like Alabama no federal money for a social safety net, and pay a lot more at the state and local level to make Virginia a state with free college, mandated paid parental leave, subsidized childcare, universal healthcare and excellent schools. That’s what I want the children I choose to have to have access to.

We have completely different values. You are trying to take away my choices, so I am done subsidizing yours. No more WIC, SNAP, Title I, SSI at the federal level. Send it through the state, and the states where they force women to have kids they can’t take care of can quit relying on me to bail them out.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure those babies born substance addicted to mothers who would sell them for drugs are so damn thankful to you for their shitty existence.

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/boy-7-was-tortured-to-death-and-fed-to-pigs-state-agencies-failed-him-says-lawsuit/?utm_term=.ec224370e0b2

read this story and tell me how much these parents loved and adored and protected this child.

and how great life was for him.

[Anonymous]

Let us not forget that this all falls squarely on the shoulders of Susan Collins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure those babies born substance addicted to mothers who would sell them for drugs are so damn thankful to you for their shitty existence.

Both my parents had/have severe substance abuse issues.

I don’t. My adult kids don’t.

You are your parents- you get YOUR OWN LIFE- to do with as you wish.

Somehow babies are destined to die because their parents make crappy choices.

[Anonymous]

You AREN’T your parents, it should read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/boy-7-was-tortured-to-death-and-fed-to-pigs-state-agencies-failed-him-says-lawsuit/?utm_term=.ec224370e0b2

read this story and tell me how much these parents loved and adored and protected this child.

and how great life was for him.

I’ve read that story before. It’s beyond reason.

So this boy should have been aborted? Did his birth mother get denied an abortion? What’s the abortion connection?

The state social service agencies failed this child. If he has been removed from the “home” he would have had lived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/boy-7-was-tortured-to-death-and-fed-to-pigs-state-agencies-failed-him-says-lawsuit/?utm_term=.ec224370e0b2

read this story and tell me how much these parents loved and adored and protected this child.

and how great life was for him.

Records in both Missouri and Kansas reveal a “seemingly endless series of reports and hotline calls” that informed social service and child welfare agencies of the abuse Adrian suffered.

Despite all the warning signs, the hotline calls, and the evidence of the child’s mistreatment, they effectively allowed his father and stepmother to continue to abuse, torture, and ultimately murder the little boy, while they stood idly by, writing it all down,” the family’s lawyer claimed in the lawsuit.

Adrian’s siblings were reported to have suffered significant weight loss and a number of physical injuries, the lawsuit claims. Other calls reported evidence that Adrian was being beaten and choked by his father and stepmother. One hotline caller said Adrian had been spanked to the point where his buttocks were bleeding.

Adrian eventually underwent treatment for disruptive behavior and “parent-child relationship problem,” the lawsuit states. His father and stepmother reported that Adrian frequently wet the bed, stole and hoarded food, picked at sores and lit fires — characteristics that the lawsuit says are common in young victims of child abuse.

Records show that Adrian himself opened up about the abuse to child welfare workers. In a July 2013 interview with a Missouri Children’s Division worker and a police officer, Adrian — then age 5 — said his father would kick him so violently in the back of his head that a “little bone come out,” the Kansas City Star reported.

“My daddy keeps hitting me in the head and punches me in the stomach and my mom keeps pulling on my ears and it really hurts,” Adrian said. “Mommy and Daddy lock me in my room by myself. Mommy and Daddy can’t feed me.”

I mean this boy was clearly horribly tortured and abused. Why any social worker or state agency let him go back to his parents after documented abuse and torture is unthinkable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let us not forget that this all falls squarely on the shoulders of Susan Collins.

Very true. She's probably regretting her choice right about now...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let us not forget that this all falls squarely on the shoulders of Susan Collins.

Yup. It’s a little more complicated than that because the 2014 Senate election was CATASTROPHIC for Democrats, but Collins is one problem that can be solved.
https://www.crowdpac.com/campaigns/387413/fund-susan-collins-future-opponent
Here’s the thread on the 2020 Senate elections so you can pick the poison you want to send out to pasture. Collins, Gardner, McSally, Ernst and Tillis are the most vulnerable Rs, and we need to keep Doug Jones.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/764241.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let us not forget that this all falls squarely on the shoulders of Susan Collins.

Very true. She's probably regretting her choice right about now...

I doubt she is.