Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-0806-moreno-central-america-immigration-20140806-story.html

“Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.
But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

There must have been a wise leader who wasn't corrupted, yes? THAT is the key to success. If only the other countries used American aid as wisely.

colombia exported more cocaine last year than at any point in history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/19/colombia-cocaine-production-breaks-record

plan colombia was a total failure on eradicating drug production.

the la times article is peddling false-hoods

Thank you.

Columbia is producing 1,500 TONS of COCAINE a year.
Nice. Guess where most of it goes...

Do any Liberals here care?

Through ports of entry that have nothing to do with the Southern border, apparently.

[Anonymous]

No more Mexican avocados in our house!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-0806-moreno-central-america-immigration-20140806-story.html

“Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.
But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

There must have been a wise leader who wasn't corrupted, yes? THAT is the key to success. If only the other countries used American aid as wisely.

colombia exported more cocaine last year than at any point in history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/19/colombia-cocaine-production-breaks-record

plan colombia was a total failure on eradicating drug production.

the la times article is peddling false-hoods

Thank you.

Columbia is producing 1,500 TONS of COCAINE a year.
Nice. Guess where most of it goes...

Do any Liberals here care?

Through ports of entry that have nothing to do with the Southern border, apparently.

You don't know that. Please stop lying here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-0806-moreno-central-america-immigration-20140806-story.html

“Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.
But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

There must have been a wise leader who wasn't corrupted, yes? THAT is the key to success. If only the other countries used American aid as wisely.

colombia exported more cocaine last year than at any point in history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/19/colombia-cocaine-production-breaks-record

plan colombia was a total failure on eradicating drug production.

the la times article is peddling false-hoods

Thank you.

Columbia is producing 1,500 TONS of COCAINE a year.
Nice. Guess where most of it goes...

Do any Liberals here care?

Through ports of entry that have nothing to do with the Southern border, apparently.

You don't know that. Please stop lying here.

actually, it has been reported widely, that most drugs come in from the ports of entry. see e.g. citing official data https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/fact-check-mike-pence-donald-trump-drugs-crossing-southern-border-wall/2591279002/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-0806-moreno-central-america-immigration-20140806-story.html

“Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.
But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”

There must have been a wise leader who wasn't corrupted, yes? THAT is the key to success. If only the other countries used American aid as wisely.

colombia exported more cocaine last year than at any point in history.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/19/colombia-cocaine-production-breaks-record

plan colombia was a total failure on eradicating drug production.

the la times article is peddling false-hoods

Thank you.

Columbia is producing 1,500 TONS of COCAINE a year.
Nice. Guess where most of it goes...

Do any Liberals here care?

Through ports of entry that have nothing to do with the Southern border, apparently.

You don't know that. Please stop lying here.

actually, it has been reported widely, that most drugs come in from the ports of entry. see e.g. citing official data https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/fact-check-mike-pence-donald-trump-drugs-crossing-southern-border-wall/2591279002/

You don't know what you don't know. All they know is all the drugs they DO catch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been nervous and afraid for the future too. I reached out to a certain Congressperson who represents an especially affected area of Virginia and no response.

Yeah, that Virginia-Mexico border area is out of control!

Such an idiotic, obtuse response. Been to parts of Annandale, Herndon, etc. recently?

Yeah, I have (and you're worried about K-Town becoming brown?). cheaper and more interesting groceries + better restaurants + actual non chain small businesses + non vacant strip malls, what's not to like?

They're filling a niche that main Street America has neglected and moved away from in favor of chain stores + mass produced taste. They've been essential to the development and economic boom throughout the region. Ideas have been exchanged, new sources for products discovered, competition has spurred innovation, property values increased, and tax receipts increased. It's the American cycle.

[Anonymous]

Illegal invasion is NOT the American way.
Ever heard of Ellis Island, you Bozos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been nervous and afraid for the future too. I reached out to a certain Congressperson who represents an especially affected area of Virginia and no response.

Yeah, that Virginia-Mexico border area is out of control!

Such an idiotic, obtuse response. Been to parts of Annandale, Herndon, etc. recently?

Yeah, I have (and you're worried about K-Town becoming brown?). cheaper and more interesting groceries + better restaurants + actual non chain small businesses + non vacant strip malls, what's not to like?

They're filling a niche that main Street America has neglected and moved away from in favor of chain stores + mass produced taste. They've been essential to the development and economic boom throughout the region. Ideas have been exchanged, new sources for products discovered, competition has spurred innovation, property values increased, and tax receipts increased. It's the American cycle.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. Ever driven through the neighborhoods in Annandale, Herndon, Silver Spring, etc.? Not the commercial areas - the neighborhoods, where multiple families live together in single homes and the streets look like something out of a third world country? Somehow, I'm 100% sure you would never dream of moving your own family to one of these neighborhoods, or have your own children attend school with these kids.

[Anonymous]

The remittance situation creates two economies in central America, those that have dollars and those that dont. Having it so chaotic is just creating a free for all. If you look at the Philippine model, the young women and men fan out around the world to work. They have health and criminal checks. Their visas are issued for specific work and time periods. They return home almost every year and maintain that connection. They leave children at home with grandparents to be clothed and educated with the money they remit, and go home if they become pregnant. It's not "kind", but it also doesn't destabilize either country and betters both countries and the next generation. Why dont we all admit this is fundamentally about economics, create a viable.guest worker program and go from there? In the meantime, anyone who applies for asylum stays in a camp in Mexico administered by UN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been nervous and afraid for the future too. I reached out to a certain Congressperson who represents an especially affected area of Virginia and no response.

Yeah, that Virginia-Mexico border area is out of control!

Such an idiotic, obtuse response. Been to parts of Annandale, Herndon, etc. recently?

Yeah, I have (and you're worried about K-Town becoming brown?). cheaper and more interesting groceries + better restaurants + actual non chain small businesses + non vacant strip malls, what's not to like?

They're filling a niche that main Street America has neglected and moved away from in favor of chain stores + mass produced taste. They've been essential to the development and economic boom throughout the region. Ideas have been exchanged, new sources for products discovered, competition has spurred innovation, property values increased, and tax receipts increased. It's the American cycle.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. Ever driven through the neighborhoods in Annandale, Herndon, Silver Spring, etc.? Not the commercial areas - the neighborhoods, where multiple families live together in single homes and the streets look like something out of a third world country? Somehow, I'm 100% sure you would never dream of moving your own family to one of these neighborhoods, or have your own children attend school with these kids.

funny about the hypocrisy

While I know this is anecdotal, my friend and his sister are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. His sister, who's very liberal, has figured out a way to send her kids to a school outside of the assigned school cluster b/c her local school was "too poor" (high minority) and too dangerous.

And he's very conservative, yet his kids attend one of the roughest (and mismanaged) schools in the system.

Guess who's involved in PTA and other school activities? not the sister . . .
My friend coaches. His wife is on the PTA and they both assist the school in any way possible.

Guess who's very vocal (anti) about Trump's policy on immigration? the sister


It's great to be liberal when the harsh side of life doesn't directly impact you.

[Anonymous]

Not to be rude, but have you ever driven through southern Virginia or West Virginia? I wouldn't want to move my family there either.

Silver Spring is nicer today than it was when I was growing up. I don't know, I guess I'm saying that some of these places weren't as nice in the past as we tend to think they were.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to be rude, but have you ever driven through southern Virginia or West Virginia? I wouldn't want to move my family there either.

Silver Spring is nicer today than it was when I was growing up. I don't know, I guess I'm saying that some of these places weren't as nice in the past as we tend to think they were.

I'm 52. My mother was raised in SS - parts closer to Tk Pk. It's built up. It's convenient to downtown. Walkability is great in some parts. So it's different in that sense.

Schools, however, are not the best, and I wouldn't feel safe walking through some of the areas at night. I do think it was safer years ago, as gang activity wasn't on the radar until the 90s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been nervous and afraid for the future too. I reached out to a certain Congressperson who represents an especially affected area of Virginia and no response.

Yeah, that Virginia-Mexico border area is out of control!

Such an idiotic, obtuse response. Been to parts of Annandale, Herndon, etc. recently?

Yeah, I have (and you're worried about K-Town becoming brown?). cheaper and more interesting groceries + better restaurants + actual non chain small businesses + non vacant strip malls, what's not to like?

They're filling a niche that main Street America has neglected and moved away from in favor of chain stores + mass produced taste. They've been essential to the development and economic boom throughout the region. Ideas have been exchanged, new sources for products discovered, competition has spurred innovation, property values increased, and tax receipts increased. It's the American cycle.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. Ever driven through the neighborhoods in Annandale, Herndon, Silver Spring, etc.? Not the commercial areas - the neighborhoods, where multiple families live together in single homes and the streets look like something out of a third world country? Somehow, I'm 100% sure you would never dream of moving your own family to one of these neighborhoods, or have your own children attend school with these kids.

funny about the hypocrisy

While I know this is anecdotal, my friend and his sister are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. His sister, who's very liberal, has figured out a way to send her kids to a school outside of the assigned school cluster b/c her local school was "too poor" (high minority) and too dangerous.

And he's very conservative, yet his kids attend one of the roughest (and mismanaged) schools in the system.

Guess who's involved in PTA and other school activities? not the sister . . .
My friend coaches. His wife is on the PTA and they both assist the school in any way possible.

Guess who's very vocal (anti) about Trump's policy on immigration? the sister


It's great to be liberal when the harsh side of life doesn't directly impact you.

They both don’t seem too bright: sister for not figuring out why she cannot send the kids to a local school, brother for making his kids pawns in his charitable actions.
I know a family like that. They send their kids to a local school that is 65% poor while they have quite a few other options. The funny thing is that the dad is Hispanic and his parents busted their butts off to send him to privates (which then got him a nice college and nice jobs, being first gen and Hispanic helps too). The kids are missing out on stuff imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The remittance situation creates two economies in central America, those that have dollars and those that dont. Having it so chaotic is just creating a free for all. If you look at the Philippine model, the young women and men fan out around the world to work. They have health and criminal checks. Their visas are issued for specific work and time periods. They return home almost every year and maintain that connection. They leave children at home with grandparents to be clothed and educated with the money they remit, and go home if they become pregnant. It's not "kind", but it also doesn't destabilize either country and betters both countries and the next generation. Why dont we all admit this is fundamentally about economics, create a viable.guest worker program and go from there? In the meantime, anyone who applies for asylum stays in a camp in Mexico administered by UN.

I believe quite a few philipinos overstay their visas but figure out a way to become legal and then bring their families. But I might be wrong.
When I was in the UK on a student visa I had to register at my place of residence. I don’t know why the US doesn’t do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to be rude, but have you ever driven through southern Virginia or West Virginia? I wouldn't want to move my family there either.

Silver Spring is nicer today than it was when I was growing up. I don't know, I guess I'm saying that some of these places weren't as nice in the past as we tend to think they were.

I'm 52. My mother was raised in SS - parts closer to Tk Pk. It's built up. It's convenient to downtown. Walkability is great in some parts. So it's different in that sense.

Schools, however, are not the best, and I wouldn't feel safe walking through some of the areas at night. I do think it was safer years ago, as gang activity wasn't on the radar until the 90s.

I spent a lot of time in SS during my HS years (in the 90's). There were far worse places but it wasn't great. I'd feel safer (but less likely) to walk around it at night now. I'm not saying it's a perfect place but compared to what it was in the 90's it's better now.