Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

[Anonymous]

It appears that many Republican congressmen who lost or are retiring have just left DC making it harder to avert a shutdown. This is especially true for the men who were staying in DC for free at taxpayer expense (living in their offices). They have left DC because they had to vacate their offices! Telling that these same men who were squatting in the Capitol because of the high cost of living in DC are going to leave hundreds of thousands of federal workers as well as the support staff who cleaned up after their mess without a paycheck

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is golfing while the secret service have to protect him without being paid. MAGA

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-golf-shutdown_us_5c181df5e4b08db99056bd30

Klassy. But Trump doesn't care about optics or men in uniform, so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that many Republican congressmen who lost or are retiring have just left DC making it harder to avert a shutdown. This is especially true for the men who were staying in DC for free at taxpayer expense (living in their offices). They have left DC because they had to vacate their offices! Telling that these same men who were squatting in the Capitol because of the high cost of living in DC are going to leave hundreds of thousands of federal workers as well as the support staff who cleaned up after their mess without a paycheck

If Trump will just let go of the stupid $5B for the wall, the bill could be passed today, without these republicans. Trump is singlehandedly doing this.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!

Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.

Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.

In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week

+1 400,000 is a huge number of people. When they don't get their paycheck, it affects the economy.

They’ll still get paid. They always do (says so in your own link.) And they’ll pay their expenses then. Calm down.

Tell that to the single mother who is a GS-5 and needing to pay the bills, why don't you. I dare you. Tell it to her face to calm down. Who cares if she has to pay extra late fees she doesn't have the money for - certainly you don't.

Also how about those small business owners who lose days and even weeks of business when federal workers don't show up at the agency next door. They don't get back pay.

Get out of your bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep hearing Republicans on cable news saying nbd because it would be a partial shutdown and the military and entitlement programs are funded so I looked up the departments that have not been funded. There are relatively few but they include DOJ. Am I wrong to wonder if a partial shutdown might slow down the Mueller probe and this might be an appealing outcome?

SCO is paid out of Treasury funds that don't expire, so they will operate as normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!

Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.

Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.

In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week

+1 400,000 is a huge number of people. When they don't get their paycheck, it affects the economy.

They’ll still get paid. They always do (says so in your own link.) And they’ll pay their expenses then. Calm down.

Tell that to the single mother who is a GS-5 and needing to pay the bills, why don't you. I dare you. Tell it to her face to calm down. Who cares if she has to pay extra late fees she doesn't have the money for - certainly you don't.

Also how about those small business owners who lose days and even weeks of business when federal workers don't show up at the agency next door. They don't get back pay.

Get out of your bubble.

And yet working for the government is sooooo competitive and desirable. Maybe these people should rethink their employer.

[Anonymous]

Trump is backing down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-signals-its-backing-down-in-shutdown-dispute-will-find-other-ways-to-fund-border-wall/2018/12/18/159994dc-02d9-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html?utm_term=.6eac0e7da3c6

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!

Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.

Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.

In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week

+1 400,000 is a huge number of people. When they don't get their paycheck, it affects the economy.

They’ll still get paid. They always do (says so in your own link.) And they’ll pay their expenses then. Calm down.

Tell that to the single mother who is a GS-5 and needing to pay the bills, why don't you. I dare you. Tell it to her face to calm down. Who cares if she has to pay extra late fees she doesn't have the money for - certainly you don't.

Also how about those small business owners who lose days and even weeks of business when federal workers don't show up at the agency next door. They don't get back pay.

Get out of your bubble.

And yet working for the government is sooooo competitive and desirable. Maybe these people should rethink their employer.

Every taxpayer benefits when the best and the brightest are attracted to government service

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!

Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.

Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.

In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week

+1 400,000 is a huge number of people. When they don't get their paycheck, it affects the economy.

They’ll still get paid. They always do (says so in your own link.) And they’ll pay their expenses then. Calm down.

Tell that to the single mother who is a GS-5 and needing to pay the bills, why don't you. I dare you. Tell it to her face to calm down. Who cares if she has to pay extra late fees she doesn't have the money for - certainly you don't.

Also how about those small business owners who lose days and even weeks of business when federal workers don't show up at the agency next door. They don't get back pay.

Get out of your bubble.

And yet working for the government is sooooo competitive and desirable. Maybe these people should rethink their employer.

Every taxpayer benefits when the best and the brightest are attracted to government service

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is backing down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/white-house-signals-its-backing-down-in-shutdown-dispute-will-find-other-ways-to-fund-border-wall/2018/12/18/159994dc-02d9-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html?utm_term=.6eac0e7da3c6

LOL! They will rob Peter to pay Paul.

[Anonymous]

It might be too late for the WH to avert the shutdown. Like a snow ball barreling down a hill, most of the R's have left town. Empty seats mean no votes.

[Anonymous]

Trump is going to cave. Such a great negotiator.

"We have other ways that we can get to that $5 billion that we'll work with Congress," White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Fox News on Tuesday morning

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/white-house-suggests-it-will-back-down-on-5-billion-border-wall-demand.html

[Anonymous]

“I'm paraphrasing here, but the White House press secretary said they're not asked for wall money from taxpayers, they're trying to get it from government agencies.”
Bloomberg editor JA Sobczyk

Does Sanders knownthat taxpayers fund government agencies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I'm paraphrasing here, but the White House press secretary said they're not asked for wall money from taxpayers, they're trying to get it from government agencies.”
Bloomberg editor JA Sobczyk

Does Sanders knownthat taxpayers fund government agencies?

LOL .. no, Trump can't tell the difference, just like he can't tell the difference between his personal bank account and the Trump Foundation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“I'm paraphrasing here, but the White House press secretary said they're not asked for wall money from taxpayers, they're trying to get it from government agencies.”
Bloomberg editor JA Sobczyk

Does Sanders knownthat taxpayers fund government agencies?

LOL .. no, Trump can't tell the difference, just like he can't tell the difference between his personal bank account and the Trump Foundation.

Seriously, wtf does that even mean when they get alternate source of funding.