APS elementary planning initiative called off

[Anonymous]

All of this talk about the feasibility of developing affordable housing along Lee Highway is a waste of time unless/until someone can point to an actual parcel that could be a candidate, or at least provides some other kind of concrete data to support the feasibility. When that happens, I'm happy to discuss it further. Until then, I'm done with us spinning our wheels on this.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about the feasibility of developing affordable housing along Lee Highway is a waste of time unless/until someone can point to an actual parcel that could be a candidate, or at least provides some other kind of concrete data to support the feasibility. When that happens, I'm happy to discuss it further. Until then, I'm done with us spinning our wheels on this.

To clarify, this is not because I oppose AH along Lee Highway. I live in NW not far off of Lee Highway, and I would welcome it into the neighborhood. I am tired of this rhetoric that we could put all kinds of AH along Lee Highway in the Tuckahoe/Nottingham/Discovery regions if only the racist/elitist community wouldn't fight it tooth and nail. In the dozen years I have lived here, I cannot think of a single instance of a proposed AH development around here, let alone one the neighborhood fought against. And when you look at the land use around here, it makes sense why it hasn't been proposed.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Given that this thread started as a discussion of the elementary planning initiative, if anything the ASFS boundary discussion is the relevant part and the affordable housing discussion is derailing it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

That’s not happening for years if ever— they haven’t even gotten the glup for it yet.

GLUP+ is already done and approved by the CB. Devolopers are already submitting site plans. First to go will be the old Sport and Health. The Legion is expected to file with in a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about the feasibility of developing affordable housing along Lee Highway is a waste of time unless/until someone can point to an actual parcel that could be a candidate, or at least provides some other kind of concrete data to support the feasibility. When that happens, I'm happy to discuss it further. Until then, I'm done with us spinning our wheels on this.

To clarify, this is not because I oppose AH along Lee Highway. I live in NW not far off of Lee Highway, and I would welcome it into the neighborhood. I am tired of this rhetoric that we could put all kinds of AH along Lee Highway in the Tuckahoe/Nottingham/Discovery regions if only the racist/elitist community wouldn't fight it tooth and nail. In the dozen years I have lived here, I cannot think of a single instance of a proposed AH development around here, let alone one the neighborhood fought against. And when you look at the land use around here, it makes sense why it hasn't been proposed.

So it’s fine to support it in theory while knowing that it’s not feasible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Given that this thread started as a discussion of the elementary planning initiative, if anything the ASFS boundary discussion is the relevant part and the affordable housing discussion is derailing it.

The ASFS people on this site don’t seem interested in discussing anything. It’s all about how evil the other side is. I’m tired of reading it. I highly doubt anyone in Arlington is planning a diabolical takeover of APS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of this talk about the feasibility of developing affordable housing along Lee Highway is a waste of time unless/until someone can point to an actual parcel that could be a candidate, or at least provides some other kind of concrete data to support the feasibility. When that happens, I'm happy to discuss it further. Until then, I'm done with us spinning our wheels on this.

To clarify, this is not because I oppose AH along Lee Highway. I live in NW not far off of Lee Highway, and I would welcome it into the neighborhood. I am tired of this rhetoric that we could put all kinds of AH along Lee Highway in the Tuckahoe/Nottingham/Discovery regions if only the racist/elitist community wouldn't fight it tooth and nail. In the dozen years I have lived here, I cannot think of a single instance of a proposed AH development around here, let alone one the neighborhood fought against. And when you look at the land use around here, it makes sense why it hasn't been proposed.

So it’s fine to support it in theory while knowing that it’s not feasible?

Recognizing the logistical challenges it presents is the same as opposing it? You're confusing fact and opinion there; it's usually helpful to keep those separate.

Also, it may become feasible down the road, but it's not going to be through one-off purchases of parcels to throw up an AH building, it will have to happen through more comprehensive planning. The Lee Highway Alliance is working on this (and creating affordable housing as part of the mix is in their Guiding Principles statement), but the fact that the LHA had to be formed in the first place is a sign of just how challenging a task it is to redevelop it in a comprehensive way.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Same here. Feel for those kids. I'm sure if parents are name calling here they are doing it in the home too. Sad to see so much disinformation spread. People will always fear what they cannot see and think bad things about others who they truly don't know at all. I'm really glad my kids don't attend and aren't part of this but I don't buy for a minute the "usurping" family descriptors. Sorry - fear monger elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Given that this thread started as a discussion of the elementary planning initiative, if anything the ASFS boundary discussion is the relevant part and the affordable housing discussion is derailing it.

The ASFS people on this site don’t seem interested in discussing anything. It’s all about how evil the other side is. I’m tired of reading it. I highly doubt anyone in Arlington is planning a diabolical takeover of APS.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Given that this thread started as a discussion of the elementary planning initiative, if anything the ASFS boundary discussion is the relevant part and the affordable housing discussion is derailing it.

The ASFS people on this site don’t seem interested in discussing anything. It’s all about how evil the other side is. I’m tired of reading it. I highly doubt anyone in Arlington is planning a diabolical takeover of APS.

+1

NW poster again. As someone who doesn't have a personal stake in it, I find both sides a bit insufferable at times. There are good arguments on both sides, so anyone demonizing the other side for advocating for their own interests is being a bit hypocritical.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Same here. Feel for those kids. I'm sure if parents are name calling here they are doing it in the home too. Sad to see so much disinformation spread. People will always fear what they cannot see and think bad things about others who they truly don't know at all. I'm really glad my kids don't attend and aren't part of this but I don't buy for a minute the "usurping" family descriptors. Sorry - fear monger elsewhere.

You haven’t been at the PTA meetings, it is pretty tense. And when a set of families have designs on taking a school that they do not attend, and actively campaign to have Rosslyn families bused elsewhere b/c they didn’t want their new school over crowded. They met with SB members, so yes active campaigning.

And concern for outsiders influencing our schools interests is far more germane to this thread than any discussion on affordable housing.

Honestly I wish they canned the Arlington way for zone policy; let the staff make a professional recommendation without neighbors infighting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Given that this thread started as a discussion of the elementary planning initiative, if anything the ASFS boundary discussion is the relevant part and the affordable housing discussion is derailing it.

The ASFS people on this site don’t seem interested in discussing anything. It’s all about how evil the other side is. I’m tired of reading it. I highly doubt anyone in Arlington is planning a diabolical takeover of APS.

+1

NW poster again. As someone who doesn't have a personal stake in it, I find both sides a bit insufferable at times. There are good arguments on both sides, so anyone demonizing the other side for advocating for their own interests is being a bit hypocritical.

Agreed. I actually do have a child who will be impacted by the ASFS boundary as we live near the school. My child buses 20 minutes each way up to Taylor instead of walking to ASFS because of the current boundaries. I am not a fan of all that extra time on a bus, but I guess that's my kid so the "other" side doesn't care. But as it stands, I would rather go to Taylor where the parents seem a lot more chill. Maybe its because they don't have to worry much about boundary changes, but the ASFS parents seem overly dramatic about poor Teddy and Ivanka getting on a bus for more than ten minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Same here. Feel for those kids. I'm sure if parents are name calling here they are doing it in the home too. Sad to see so much disinformation spread. People will always fear what they cannot see and think bad things about others who they truly don't know at all. I'm really glad my kids don't attend and aren't part of this but I don't buy for a minute the "usurping" family descriptors. Sorry - fear monger elsewhere.

You haven’t been at the PTA meetings, it is pretty tense. And when a set of families have designs on taking a school that they do not attend, and actively campaign to have Rosslyn families bused elsewhere b/c they didn’t want their new school over crowded. They met with SB members, so yes active campaigning.

And concern for outsiders influencing our schools interests is far more germane to this thread than any discussion on affordable housing.

Honestly I wish they canned the Arlington way for zone policy; let the staff make a professional recommendation without neighbors infighting

Agree. Just do what’s best for the community instead of catering to special interests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to ideas... please.

I understand the small spaces and multiple owners on Lee, but it can be done. And yes, it will cost more up front, but it costs the county and community less in the long run if the schools have some semblance of diversity and poverty is not so concentrated. Unless the regulators here stop seeking as much affordable housing as they can get in the south, and fund a smaller but valuable amount in the north, nothing will change. "Cost" is not just the funding needed to purchase the land. And, studies show that the cost to purchase commercial land in North Arlington is not that much more than south. Someone did a study of purchases over the last decade and it was shocking that in some instances land was more costly in South Arlington.

The American Legion in Clarendon is being redeveloped as entirely affordable housing. It’s a fairly big parcel about 1.25 acres.

And within walking distance of ASFS, Stratford and W-L.

Interesting. I heard that back before the initiative was put on pause, some Cherrydale parents had been proposing a new boundary for ASFS that was basically Cherrydale + Lyon Village (except the couple blocks east of Barton, ie the block where Key sits) and the mostly SFHs in the ASFS walkzone. I guess all the apartments currently in Key/ASFS zone would be sent to Key under that plan? Was that ever a real proposal or was that just a rumor?

That was exactly what they were proposing and lobbying for. They had all these spreadsheets showing how well it worked to have the dividing line be Barton.

Yeah I don’t believe the cherrydale faction intended to be racist/classist but combining Lyon village and Cherrydale SFH definitely would have that outcome.

Most current families at ASFS want to keep the current population And maybe tack on a small walk zone. It’s the usurping Cherrydale families looking to seize the school for their neighborhood who have a scorched earth approach and don’t care if they end up kicking out families with less means.

How did this go from talking about getting more affordable housing spread across Arlington to the crazy ASFS discussion again. I feel sorry for the kids who go there. I wouldn’t want any part of that hatred. This isn’t a war we’re talking about.

Same here. Feel for those kids. I'm sure if parents are name calling here they are doing it in the home too. Sad to see so much disinformation spread. People will always fear what they cannot see and think bad things about others who they truly don't know at all. I'm really glad my kids don't attend and aren't part of this but I don't buy for a minute the "usurping" family descriptors. Sorry - fear monger elsewhere.

You haven’t been at the PTA meetings, it is pretty tense. And when a set of families have designs on taking a school that they do not attend, and actively campaign to have Rosslyn families bused elsewhere b/c they didn’t want their new school over crowded. They met with SB members, so yes active campaigning.

And concern for outsiders influencing our schools interests is far more germane to this thread than any discussion on affordable housing.

Honestly I wish they canned the Arlington way for zone policy; let the staff make a professional recommendation without neighbors infighting

Agree. Just do what’s best for the community instead of catering to special interests.

Okay, but that goes for other issues too, you can’t just pull the policy selectively when it’s working against you. No more community input on anything, including things like the CC high school. We all get what we get and we don’t get upset.