VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^

2006s are the youngest new entrants in the pipeline

How many from Loudoun 06s went to WS ID sessions (over) vs. FCV ID sessions (ongoing) vs. waiting for 13U with the ECNL (announcement forthcoming)?

Good players on 2006 1st and 2nd teams and someone must be willing to comment

Are WS ID sessions over? The email makes it seem that there will be more throughout the spring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

not trying to start anything, just curious...

Is that really the case? I believe I understand the FCV ECNL 04 moved over into the DA, but an anyone confirm that girls who were ECNL in 2016-2017 were 100% the same 20 over the last 2 years prior?

And for the 05s.. have they been 100% roster static? no incoming or loses over u11-u13 transition? Can anyone provide feedback that FCV girls dominated the 05 ID sessions?

I would think that the DA designation might change the consideration/desire of someone to play for FCV vs FCV in CCL, NPL, etc. Plus you've got the new coaching director who could potentially change the direction of club and want a different development over what they are currently doing, which could require a different set of players..

different side of same conversation, all of these college commitments are on twitter/FB/etc , what's the quality of college programs these FCV girls are committing to like? is it reflective of the current results?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^

2006s are the youngest new entrants in the pipeline

How many from Loudoun 06s went to WS ID sessions (over) vs. FCV ID sessions (ongoing) vs. waiting for 13U with the ECNL (announcement forthcoming)?

Good players on 2006 1st and 2nd teams and someone must be willing to comment

Are WS ID sessions over? The email makes it seem that there will be more throughout the spring.

(over for now until April)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

not trying to start anything, just curious...

Is that really the case? I believe I understand the FCV ECNL 04 moved over into the DA, but an anyone confirm that girls who were ECNL in 2016-2017 were 100% the same 20 over the last 2 years prior?

And for the 05s.. have they been 100% roster static? no incoming or loses over u11-u13 transition? Can anyone provide feedback that FCV girls dominated the 05 ID sessions?

I would think that the DA designation might change the consideration/desire of someone to play for FCV vs FCV in CCL, NPL, etc. Plus you've got the new coaching director who could potentially change the direction of club and want a different development over what they are currently doing, which could require a different set of players..

different side of same conversation, all of these college commitments are on twitter/FB/etc , what's the quality of college programs these FCV girls are committing to like? is it reflective of the current results?

The 04's moving from ECNL to DA had some roster changes. A handful of Loudoun girls, a couple of moves up from NPL, and a few girls left behind. Probably 2/3rds the same. The FCV 05's are a good group, I would expect them to largely carry over into DA next year... they are advertised as pre-DA this year. There will be some dilution I expect, but I have not been at the 05 ID sessions to tell you how many girls from other clubs were there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

All true. the flip side is that FCV will need to stick with mostly the kids they already have in the pipeline to keep parents appeased. Probably not a lot of opportunity to break into the 1st team at U13/U14/U15 from outside the club. Spirit’s a good option for girls from other clubs who didn’t commit to a particular pipeline at age 10.

True for Spirit for now but an over simplification for FCV. Outside kids at FCV always get a chance but you have to be as good or better than the current top players. If you are just as good as a average starter or bench player then they will stay with who they already have.

I think the new player actually has to be observably and significantly better to displace an existing player on the roster. Especially if there are siblings & donor/volunteer parents in play. 'As good as' doesn't displace. But that's true of most rosters, I think. Good news, maybe, is that some don't like the coach or team cute every year and leave, opening up at least a space or two for 'as good as' newcomers. Even the Arlington 04 red girls--incredibly successful and tight-knit squad---had a player or two turn over last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

not trying to start anything, just curious...

Is that really the case? I believe I understand the FCV ECNL 04 moved over into the DA, but an anyone confirm that girls who were ECNL in 2016-2017 were 100% the same 20 over the last 2 years prior?

And for the 05s.. have they been 100% roster static? no incoming or loses over u11-u13 transition? Can anyone provide feedback that FCV girls dominated the 05 ID sessions?

I would think that the DA designation might change the consideration/desire of someone to play for FCV vs FCV in CCL, NPL, etc. Plus you've got the new coaching director who could potentially change the direction of club and want a different development over what they are currently doing, which could require a different set of players..

different side of same conversation, all of these college commitments are on twitter/FB/etc , what's the quality of college programs these FCV girls are committing to like? is it reflective of the current results?

Colleges seem solid: http://www.fcvirginia.com/page/show/3158219-college-commitments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

All true. the flip side is that FCV will need to stick with mostly the kids they already have in the pipeline to keep parents appeased. Probably not a lot of opportunity to break into the 1st team at U13/U14/U15 from outside the club. Spirit’s a good option for girls from other clubs who didn’t commit to a particular pipeline at age 10.

True for Spirit for now but an over simplification for FCV. Outside kids at FCV always get a chance but you have to be as good or better than the current top players. If you are just as good as a average starter or bench player then they will stay with who they already have.

I think the new player actually has to be observably and significantly better to displace an existing player on the roster. Especially if there are siblings & donor/volunteer parents in play. 'As good as' doesn't displace. But that's true of most rosters, I think. Good news, maybe, is that some don't like the coach or team cute every year and leave, opening up at least a space or two for 'as good as' newcomers. Even the Arlington 04 red girls--incredibly successful and tight-knit squad---had a player or two turn over last year.

did those two go to one of the new GDAs that started last year, or something else?

[Anonymous]

Any recommendations on good camps or ID clinics for high school age players? Looking for ones that provide seminars on playing in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any recommendations on good camps or ID clinics for high school age players? Looking for ones that provide seminars on playing in college.

Sometimes the college of interest may be holding their own ID camp so that may be a good start. Education should be the driver of school to attend in my opinion unless looking to go pro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did FCV make offers or is that process different? Of course they already have an entire 05 team. Many of those players hav3 been with the club for years.

that is the advantage for FCV over the WS. FCV can build their 06s and 05s in adavnace and good players want to go play there when younger to get in. of course the training and development is a separate question between the two that can be debated elsewhere. But FCV will probably have better results early on, at least they have so far. The WS says they need a better feeder system in that interview

All true. the flip side is that FCV will need to stick with mostly the kids they already have in the pipeline to keep parents appeased. Probably not a lot of opportunity to break into the 1st team at U13/U14/U15 from outside the club. Spirit’s a good option for girls from other clubs who didn’t commit to a particular pipeline at age 10.

True for Spirit for now but an over simplification for FCV. Outside kids at FCV always get a chance but you have to be as good or better than the current top players. If you are just as good as a average starter or bench player then they will stay with who they already have.

I think the new player actually has to be observably and significantly better to displace an existing player on the roster. Especially if there are siblings & donor/volunteer parents in play. 'As good as' doesn't displace. But that's true of most rosters, I think. Good news, maybe, is that some don't like the coach or team cute every year and leave, opening up at least a space or two for 'as good as' newcomers. Even the Arlington 04 red girls--incredibly successful and tight-knit squad---had a player or two turn over last year.

did those two go to one of the new GDAs that started last year, or something else?

Spirit DA

[Anonymous]

^^
You mean they didn't go to McLean for the ECNL?! That's crazy talk.

[Anonymous]

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/forty-eight-players-called-into-u-s-u-14-girls-national-team-training-camp/?loc=psw

So this is interesting, 48 players called into u14 National girls training camp. 2 players from Virginia both playing for the same team, Richmond which is ECNL. It seems like this defeats the purpose of the entire DA structure around here... so you're telling me that out of all players in Northern Virginia, zero of them are good enough? Even with all the girls that even play up a year? And the 2 call ups happened to play for the exact same team?

This seems like lazy scouting. So yes those two players have been found to fill Virginia''s quota so nobody else has a chance that that age group, sorry everyone.

[Anonymous]

With all the talk of how you can get a pathway to the National team throufh GDA, sorry to disappoint you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/forty-eight-players-called-into-u-s-u-14-girls-national-team-training-camp/?loc=psw

So this is interesting, 48 players called into u14 National girls training camp. 2 players from Virginia both playing for the same team, Richmond which is ECNL. It seems like this defeats the purpose of the entire DA structure around here... so you're telling me that out of all players in Northern Virginia, zero of them are good enough? Even with all the girls that even play up a year? And the 2 call ups happened to play for the exact same team?

This seems like lazy scouting. So yes those two players have been found to fill Virginia''s quota so nobody else has a chance that that age group, sorry everyone.

So your expectation is that those girls from Richmond would make the commute up to Northern Va how many times a week to train with and play with one of the 3 Virginia DA teams??? And having seen one of the two girls play, it is a deserved call up for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/forty-eight-players-called-into-u-s-u-14-girls-national-team-training-camp/?loc=psw

So this is interesting, 48 players called into u14 National girls training camp. 2 players from Virginia both playing for the same team, Richmond which is ECNL. It seems like this defeats the purpose of the entire DA structure around here... so you're telling me that out of all players in Northern Virginia, zero of them are good enough? Even with all the girls that even play up a year? And the 2 call ups happened to play for the exact same team?

This seems like lazy scouting. So yes those two players have been found to fill Virginia''s quota so nobody else has a chance that that age group, sorry everyone.

GDA has competed for all of a single fall season meanwhile National Team scouting has been happening for years without DA. Richmond also doesn’t have a DA.