Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???

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Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

Which part of this post, specifically, are you rolling your eyes at, and why?

Np. I would guess all of it.

And why?

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Anonymous wrote:As a biker, I want to say: the extremist bikers in this thread do not represent me. I hope drivers know this.

No one here is an extremist. No cyclist here is calling for a change to law in Md or DC. We are just giving facts.

Sure. Anyway. Drivers, we are not all like this. I apologize on their behalf.

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Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

Which part of this post, specifically, are you rolling your eyes at, and why?

Np. I would guess all of it.

And why?

Everyone knows why but you, man.

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I didn't say it's anti-social to bike commute. I said it's anti-social to be "that guy" who bikes down River Road at rush hour. I love bike commuting, did it for years (on bike lanes and lesser-trafficked surface streets.) It's anti-social to bike down the middle of a fast-moving artery with no bike lane at rush hour. And it does not help the cause of building up a biking culture one single bit, because either annoys the drivers or makes bike commuting look like something only maniacs do.

What again is the alternative route? I am assuming this is River Road north of Goldsboro.

I dunno, but if there were truly no safe and appropriate route, I just wouldn't bike commute. If you chose instead to be unsafe/inappropriate, then that's on you.

It's not unsafe. And it's only inappropriate if you start with the assumption that people shouldn't bike on roads with lots of cars during rush hour.

That's a pretty fair assumption that I think everyone (including lots of bikers) except an extreme minority shares: you shouldn't bike on roads with no bike infrastructure with lots of cars during rush hour.

Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

Biking commuters contribute to traffic congestion due to their slow speed.

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Everyone knows why but you, man.

Then explain, please. If it's so obvious and well-known, it should be easy to explain.

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You can get from Tenleytown to Dupont on smaller surface streets. No need to take Wisconsin, unless you prize a direct route over safety/being a good citizen approrpiately sharing the road.

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/dc_bike_map_2012_full_version.pdf

By "sharing the road", you evidently mean, "staying off the road".

No, sharing the roads by taking appropriate routes. It's not that hard to figure out.

Who's sharing Wisconsin Ave with whom?

Stop being dense. you're not helping.

He can't help himself. One can only imagine how much his charming personality has helped in his personal life. Man, just imagine having to deal with that one on one IRL...

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I didn't say it's anti-social to bike commute. I said it's anti-social to be "that guy" who bikes down River Road at rush hour. I love bike commuting, did it for years (on bike lanes and lesser-trafficked surface streets.) It's anti-social to bike down the middle of a fast-moving artery with no bike lane at rush hour. And it does not help the cause of building up a biking culture one single bit, because either annoys the drivers or makes bike commuting look like something only maniacs do.

What again is the alternative route? I am assuming this is River Road north of Goldsboro.

I dunno, but if there were truly no safe and appropriate route, I just wouldn't bike commute. If you chose instead to be unsafe/inappropriate, then that's on you.

It's not unsafe. And it's only inappropriate if you start with the assumption that people shouldn't bike on roads with lots of cars during rush hour.

That's a pretty fair assumption that I think everyone (including lots of bikers) except an extreme minority shares: you shouldn't bike on roads with no bike infrastructure with lots of cars during rush hour.

Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

I can tell some of these people are lawyers lol It's like arguing with a hall monitor

Look yes you have a right to drive on Wis avenue in rush hour

Should you no, should steps be taken to make it easier to do it no, should steps be taken instead to make it more hospitable to drivers who are the vast vast majority of users of this route yes

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Everyone knows why but you, man.

Then explain, please. If it's so obvious and well-known, it should be easy to explain.

Sorry, don't feel like it. *shrug*

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Everyone knows why but you, man.

Then explain, please. If it's so obvious and well-known, it should be easy to explain.

It's not a matter of importance, it's a matter of moving traffic efficiently. And bikes gum up the works during rush hour if they take a whole car lane going 30 mph.

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I didn't say it's anti-social to bike commute. I said it's anti-social to be "that guy" who bikes down River Road at rush hour. I love bike commuting, did it for years (on bike lanes and lesser-trafficked surface streets.) It's anti-social to bike down the middle of a fast-moving artery with no bike lane at rush hour. And it does not help the cause of building up a biking culture one single bit, because either annoys the drivers or makes bike commuting look like something only maniacs do.

What again is the alternative route? I am assuming this is River Road north of Goldsboro.

I dunno, but if there were truly no safe and appropriate route, I just wouldn't bike commute. If you chose instead to be unsafe/inappropriate, then that's on you.

It's not unsafe. And it's only inappropriate if you start with the assumption that people shouldn't bike on roads with lots of cars during rush hour.

That's a pretty fair assumption that I think everyone (including lots of bikers) except an extreme minority shares: you shouldn't bike on roads with no bike infrastructure with lots of cars during rush hour.

Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

I can tell some of these people are lawyers lol It's like arguing with a hall monitor

Look yes you have a right to drive on Wis avenue in rush hour

Should you no, should steps be taken to make it easier to do it no, should steps be taken instead to make it more hospitable to drivers who are the vast vast majority of users of this route yes

If these are lawyers I feel bad for their clients, lol. They're God-awful at arguing and would turn any jury against them.

[Anonymous]

This thread has quite nicely proved OP's point. It started with people being against her and now the pendulum has swung in the complete opposite direction. Probably do to the petulance and rudeness of the biker posters here.

Well done, guys!

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I didn't say it's anti-social to bike commute. I said it's anti-social to be "that guy" who bikes down River Road at rush hour. I love bike commuting, did it for years (on bike lanes and lesser-trafficked surface streets.) It's anti-social to bike down the middle of a fast-moving artery with no bike lane at rush hour. And it does not help the cause of building up a biking culture one single bit, because either annoys the drivers or makes bike commuting look like something only maniacs do.

What again is the alternative route? I am assuming this is River Road north of Goldsboro.

I dunno, but if there were truly no safe and appropriate route, I just wouldn't bike commute. If you chose instead to be unsafe/inappropriate, then that's on you.

It's not unsafe. And it's only inappropriate if you start with the assumption that people shouldn't bike on roads with lots of cars during rush hour.

That's a pretty fair assumption that I think everyone (including lots of bikers) except an extreme minority shares: you shouldn't bike on roads with no bike infrastructure with lots of cars during rush hour.

Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

Biking commuters contribute to traffic congestion due to their slow speed.

And driving commuters contribute to traffic congestion due to the space they occupy on the road. (So do bus commuters, although per person they occupy less space.)

Plus, whose traffic congestion? Bicyclists do not get in the way of other bicyclists -- at least not on River Road. Bicyclists get in the way of drivers. Just as drivers get in the way of bicyclists, but nobody is complaining that drivers are inconsiderate for driving during rush hour.

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I didn't say it's anti-social to bike commute. I said it's anti-social to be "that guy" who bikes down River Road at rush hour. I love bike commuting, did it for years (on bike lanes and lesser-trafficked surface streets.) It's anti-social to bike down the middle of a fast-moving artery with no bike lane at rush hour. And it does not help the cause of building up a biking culture one single bit, because either annoys the drivers or makes bike commuting look like something only maniacs do.

What again is the alternative route? I am assuming this is River Road north of Goldsboro.

I dunno, but if there were truly no safe and appropriate route, I just wouldn't bike commute. If you chose instead to be unsafe/inappropriate, then that's on you.

It's not unsafe. And it's only inappropriate if you start with the assumption that people shouldn't bike on roads with lots of cars during rush hour.

That's a pretty fair assumption that I think everyone (including lots of bikers) except an extreme minority shares: you shouldn't bike on roads with no bike infrastructure with lots of cars during rush hour.

Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

How about this: no one person is more important than everyone else on the road. When one commuter slows down the other hundred, that one's an asshole, whether it's a biker, jogger or pogo stick rider.

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Everyone knows why but you, man.

Then explain, please. If it's so obvious and well-known, it should be easy to explain.

It's not a matter of importance, it's a matter of moving traffic efficiently. And bikes gum up the works during rush hour if they take a whole car lane going 30 mph.

It's quite efficient to bike. What you mean is, it's a matter of moving cars fast.

Now, why is it a matter of moving cars fast? Commutes aren't about getting cars to work. They're about getting people to work, whichever mode of transportation they use.

(Also, they're not "car lanes". They're travel lanes.)

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Why shouldn't you? Because it's unsafe? But it isn't unsafe, if you know what you're doing. Because it's inconsiderate? Now you're begging the question. It's inappropriate because it's inconsiderate; it's inconsiderate because it's inappropriate.

The idea here is that people on bicycles shouldn't delay people in cars, because people in cars are more important. That trips in cars are more important than trips on bikes. But they're not.

Which part of this post, specifically, are you rolling your eyes at, and why?

Np. I would guess all of it.

And why?

SEALION!!