Ward 2/3 High School proposal in the NW Current

[Anonymous]

I like it in theory. Don't you think that the neighborhood people inbounds for Hardy would bail if they were moved away from Wilson? The FS high option would have to be something pretty special to not create an uproar, and an exodus. Can DC Gov get the class/SES mix right to create an amazing school in that location and draw existing inbound families? Or is that too much social engineering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like it in theory. Don't you think that the neighborhood people inbounds for Hardy would bail if they were moved away from Wilson? The FS high option would have to be something pretty special to not create an uproar, and an exodus. Can DC Gov get the class/SES mix right to create an amazing school in that location and draw existing inbound families? Or is that too much social engineering?

I'm not sure how there would be "social engineering" if what you're doing is creating a neighborhood high school. Now, you would have to create programs that people in the neighborhood would like and fit the academic needs of the students in the neighborhood community, but that's not admissions-based, but curriculum based. I think that's pretty much the definition of what any public school administration should be doing, across the country.

Basically just duplicate the Wilson curriculum and you'd be done. Of course, you'd have to do more to modernize that old building, too, but I think they are working on that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The FS building could accommodate a high-school. If a ward 2/3 high school is actually on the table the building would work. The IB families for FS-SWW could then be reassigned to Ross, Hyde-Addison or Marie Reed.

So Hardy would be the middle school that feeds to the Francis Stephens High School?

And who would feed to Hardy?

Or do you mean stick to the Educational Campus Idea that is at FS now, and have Hyde Addison, Ross, and Marie Reed feed to Francis Stephens at middle school?

Could be a decent school.

Hardy may not be much, but it's better than FS. Considering that Hardy is NOT full of IB students now, why would Hyde leave Hardy for FS? Ross and Marie Reed don't have any good options, so they might go for it, but I can't see anyone at Hyde thinking that was anything other than stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FS building could accommodate a high-school. If a ward 2/3 high school is actually on the table the building would work. The IB families for FS-SWW could then be reassigned to Ross, Hyde-Addison or Marie Reed.

So Hardy would be the middle school that feeds to the Francis Stephens High School?

And who would feed to Hardy?

Or do you mean stick to the Educational Campus Idea that is at FS now, and have Hyde Addison, Ross, and Marie Reed feed to Francis Stephens at middle school?

Could be a decent school.

Hardy may not be much, but it's better than FS. Considering that Hardy is NOT full of IB students now, why would Hyde leave Hardy for FS? Ross and Marie Reed don't have any good options, so they might go for it, but I can't see anyone at Hyde thinking that was anything other than stupid.

The premise underlying the whole thing is that DCPS would cut Hardy out from going to Wilson; so Hardy (along with all of the other elementary feeders to Hardy) would need a new high school. The hypothetical is that the new HS would be at the F-S site. Hardy and its feeders would be a pretty good student population for a new HS, assuming the parents understood they'd be getting a Wilson duplicate.

Plus, F-S already has a public pool next door. That's cool. and there is a whole lot of grassy park surrounding F-S that could be converted into athletic use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FS building could accommodate a high-school. If a ward 2/3 high school is actually on the table the building would work. The IB families for FS-SWW could then be reassigned to Ross, Hyde-Addison or Marie Reed.

So Hardy would be the middle school that feeds to the Francis Stephens High School?

And who would feed to Hardy?

Or do you mean stick to the Educational Campus Idea that is at FS now, and have Hyde Addison, Ross, and Marie Reed feed to Francis Stephens at middle school?

Could be a decent school.

Hardy may not be much, but it's better than FS. Considering that Hardy is NOT full of IB students now, why would Hyde leave Hardy for FS? Ross and Marie Reed don't have any good options, so they might go for it, but I can't see anyone at Hyde thinking that was anything other than stupid.

The premise underlying the whole thing is that DCPS would cut Hardy out from going to Wilson; so Hardy (along with all of the other elementary feeders to Hardy) would need a new high school. The hypothetical is that the new HS would be at the F-S site. Hardy and its feeders would be a pretty good student population for a new HS, assuming the parents understood they'd be getting a Wilson duplicate.

Plus, F-S already has a public pool next door. That's cool. and there is a whole lot of grassy park surrounding F-S that could be converted into athletic use.

The public pool is outdoor and is closed for 90% of the school year. The grassy park is partly owned by the National Park Service which does not see athletic use as part of its mission.

The F-S site is really hard to get to from within the Hardy boundaries, it basically means traversing Georgetown during morning rush hour, and there's no transit that makes that route. Site-wise, it's hard to see anyone who is IB for Wilson today seeing that as an upgrade.

[Anonymous]

Come on, PP, we're talking about other people's children. Who cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The F-S site is really hard to get to from within the Hardy boundaries, it basically means traversing Georgetown during morning rush hour, and there's no transit that makes that route. Site-wise, it's hard to see anyone who is IB for Wilson today seeing that as an upgrade.

Not true about the transit. The 30 buses head right through Glover Park and Georgetown: Wisconsin > M > Pennsylvania. From Pennsylvania, it's an easy 4-block walk to F-S. Not saying that I agree that F-S as a "second Wilson" being a good or practical idea, but the notion that it's unreachable for kids who managed to get to Hardy is silly.

As for the rest of Hardy's potential students from Palisades, Wesley Heights, etc., those areas are underserved by transit anyway, so kids getting to a post-Hardy, hypothetically-non-Wilson high school from those neighborhoods by bus or metro probably isn't going to happen; to the extent that any of these kids currently go to Wilson, they're probably arriving by car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

The F-S site is really hard to get to from within the Hardy boundaries, it basically means traversing Georgetown during morning rush hour, and there's no transit that makes that route. Site-wise, it's hard to see anyone who is IB for Wilson today seeing that as an upgrade.

Not true about the transit. The 30 buses head right through Glover Park and Georgetown: Wisconsin > M > Pennsylvania. From Pennsylvania, it's an easy 4-block walk to F-S. Not saying that I agree that F-S as a "second Wilson" being a good or practical idea, but the notion that it's unreachable for kids who managed to get to Hardy is silly.

As for the rest of Hardy's potential students from Palisades, Wesley Heights, etc., those areas are underserved by transit anyway, so kids getting to a post-Hardy, hypothetically-non-Wilson high school from those neighborhoods by bus or metro probably isn't going to happen; to the extent that any of these kids currently go to Wilson, they're probably arriving by car.

The M4 bus goes up Arizona Avenue to Tenleytown every 20 minutes, eight minutes from MacArthur and Arizona to Wilson according to the schedule. Most of the Wilson and Deal kids from Palisades and AU Park take that bus. There's nothing even remotely comparable going east.

[Anonymous]

I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

You live IB for Wilson because of historical idiocy with boundaries. Wilson's boundaries now encompass half of the city.

I'm glad you would find a FS HS as better, location-wise, from your point-of-view. Do not for one minute think your view is representative of the vast majority of Wilson IB attendees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

You live IB for Wilson because of historical idiocy with boundaries. Wilson's boundaries now encompass half of the city.

I'm glad you would find a FS HS as better, location-wise, from your point-of-view. Do not for one minute think your view is representative of the vast majority of Wilson IB attendees.

Choice sets!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

You live IB for Wilson because of historical idiocy with boundaries. Wilson's boundaries now encompass half of the city.

I'm glad you would find a FS HS as better, location-wise, from your point-of-view. Do not for one minute think your view is representative of the vast majority of Wilson IB attendees.

Choice sets!

Who cares if you are glad or not, or even if you mean it. The point is some previous poster stated that a Francis Stephens HS location would not work for anyone in bounds for Wilson, while i may not be in a majority I am hardly the only one, this largely a function of size of the boundary.

Also the IB Bounds non - attendees may also have something to say about why they did not choose Wilson, and it may have some thing to do with geography.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

You live IB for Wilson because of historical idiocy with boundaries. Wilson's boundaries now encompass half of the city.

I'm glad you would find a FS HS as better, location-wise, from your point-of-view. Do not for one minute think your view is representative of the vast majority of Wilson IB attendees.

Choice sets!

Who cares if you are glad or not, or even if you mean it. The point is some previous poster stated that a Francis Stephens HS location would not work for anyone in bounds for Wilson, while i may not be in a majority I am hardly the only one, this largely a function of size of the boundary.

Also the IB Bounds non - attendees may also have something to say about why they did not choose Wilson, and it may have some thing to do with geography.

This is a childish justification for your largely pointless post. I don't believe anyone said a new location would not work for ANYONE IB for Wilson. And, if they did, I have confidence that every sentient reader correctly inferred that the author didn't mean, literally, everyone. This seems like an ex post explanation for hearing yourself talk (or, more apropos, reading yourself).

Perhaps you misread. (I've already admitted above that perhaps I misread.) I recall a poster commenting that students IB for Hardy would face a considerably more challenging commute going to Francis-Stevens than the currently face going to Wilson. Geography (and transit), as you imply with your final sentence, matter immensely.

Your point about Wilson being geographically terrible for some IB families is sound. It speaks to removing these families from Wilson and giving them a better-located alternative. This is precisely what the DME is proposing by removing SW from the catchment basin for Wilson.

When you recall that this whole hare-brained idea was hatched by someone hoping to peel off better prepared students with which to pool his/her children (as opposed to the currently-failing school), you'll realize that we've already spent too much time discussing this lark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am currently in bounds for Wilson, and site wise the Francis Stephens campus is an upgrade. I put a lot of weight on proximity. Sure the place could be fixed up a lot, but that is easy enough the council has a lot of cash to throw around it seems, but in terms of geography I like it.

Note, I will likely be drawn out of Wilson as will a lot of people living in the down town area.

You live IB for Wilson because of historical idiocy with boundaries. Wilson's boundaries now encompass half of the city.

I'm glad you would find a FS HS as better, location-wise, from your point-of-view. Do not for one minute think your view is representative of the vast majority of Wilson IB attendees.

Choice sets!

Who cares if you are glad or not, or even if you mean it. The point is some previous poster stated that a Francis Stephens HS location would not work for anyone in bounds for Wilson, while i may not be in a majority I am hardly the only one, this largely a function of size of the boundary.

Also the IB Bounds non - attendees may also have something to say about why they did not choose Wilson, and it may have some thing to do with geography.

This is a childish justification for your largely pointless post. I don't believe anyone said a new location would not work for ANYONE IB for Wilson. And, if they did, I have confidence that every sentient reader correctly inferred that the author didn't mean, literally, everyone. This seems like an ex post explanation for hearing yourself talk (or, more apropos, reading yourself).

Perhaps you misread. (I've already admitted above that perhaps I misread.) I recall a poster commenting that students IB for Hardy would face a considerably more challenging commute going to Francis-Stevens than the currently face going to Wilson. Geography (and transit), as you imply with your final sentence, matter immensely.

Your point about Wilson being geographically terrible for some IB families is sound. It speaks to removing these families from Wilson and giving them a better-located alternative. This is precisely what the DME is proposing by removing SW from the catchment basin for Wilson.

When you recall that this whole hare-brained idea was hatched by someone hoping to peel off better prepared students with which to pool his/her children (as opposed to the currently-failing school), you'll realize that we've already spent too much time discussing this lark.

Not the PP, but I can't help but smile when people exhibit their sense of entitlement to belittle people who don't live WOTP - even when they're agreeing with them!

I mean that's an awful lot of bombast toward someone who merely said F-S would make a convenient alternative to Wilson for people who live further downtown. If it's just a lark, why get so uptight? Just to read yourself?