FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they pulled kids into Skyview from Oakton, South Lakes, Chantilly and Westfield in about even numbers, that would be doable.

Their current plans seem to pull almost all the Skyview students from Westfield, which creates a huge headache for them: trying to backfill the least popular and largest school building.

And the building with the fewest close by residential areas. Its surprising FCPS didn't anticipate this problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should put a pause on revising boundaries until they see what happens with Skyview. It’s possible that will relieve some of the crowding issues and they won’t need to move kids out of Chantilly HS.

What do you mean by "what happens with Skyview"? They need to set the Skyview boundaries ASAP.

Are you suggesting they set the Skyview boundaries and then not move anyone else around until they see how the moves shake out?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should put a pause on revising boundaries until they see what happens with Skyview. It’s possible that will relieve some of the crowding issues and they won’t need to move kids out of Chantilly HS.

What do you mean by "what happens with Skyview"? They need to set the Skyview boundaries ASAP.

Are you suggesting they set the Skyview boundaries and then not move anyone else around until they see how the moves shake out?

I think they are suggesting waiting to see what the future enrollments at all the schools in the area look like after some students opt in to Skyview before moving forward with any boundary changes.

I don’t agree with this, but it’s what I think they’re suggesting. I don’t agree with it because Chantilly wouldn’t get enough relief and it would just delay Skyview becoming a neighborhood high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they should put a pause on revising boundaries until they see what happens with Skyview. It’s possible that will relieve some of the crowding issues and they won’t need to move kids out of Chantilly HS.

What do you mean by "what happens with Skyview"? They need to set the Skyview boundaries ASAP.

Are you suggesting they set the Skyview boundaries and then not move anyone else around until they see how the moves shake out?

I think they are suggesting waiting to see what the future enrollments at all the schools in the area look like after some students opt in to Skyview before moving forward with any boundary changes.

I don’t agree with this, but it’s what I think they’re suggesting. I don’t agree with it because Chantilly wouldn’t get enough relief and it would just delay Skyview becoming a neighborhood high school.

I disagree. Though, admittedly, I don't understand how they could possibly continue without firm boundaries for Skyview. They are creating more confusion with this.

1. Set boundaries for Skyview.
2. Maybe wait to see how the numbers fall out next year for the other schools before shifting any to Westfield. There is a lot of new construction there, and maybe they don't need as many as some seem to think.

But, the holdup is the delay in Skyview boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

Scenario 2 is awful for middle school! Creates a Navy/Rocky Run/Oakton and Poplar Tree/Stone/Chantilly pyramid.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

You said option 2 didn't have kids moving high schools. 2 does -in fact- have hundreds of kids moving to different high schools.

We can explain to you how to read the map, but we can't understand it for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

They are moving ES from one HS to another HS. You are welcome to go and find what ever street addresses you want in thse ES boundaries.

Oak Hill is moving from Chantilly to Sky View.
McNair is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Coates is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Floris, at least parts of it, are moving from Westfield to Skyview

Then they are moving schools to backfill Westfield, which is losing a thousand or so students. Those are the moves that are more contentious in the moment because Centreville families and some Chantilly families didn't expect to be moved since they were only focused on the move to Skyview and were ignoring the backfill necessity.

The compaints about changing ES borders is no longer valid, the School Board said they were not going to be doing that. MS adjustments are going to happen and the people involved in the Skyview move were pretty well aware that was going to happen. That seems to have caught other schools off guard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

You said option 2 didn't have kids moving high schools. 2 does -in fact- have hundreds of kids moving to different high schools.

We can explain to you how to read the map, but we can't understand it for you.

Why can’t you give me a specific example? Kids would be moving from what high school and to which new one? And which community? Please share an example alone with commute times. I’d like to understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

They are moving ES from one HS to another HS. You are welcome to go and find what ever street addresses you want in thse ES boundaries.

Oak Hill is moving from Chantilly to Sky View.
McNair is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Coates is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Floris, at least parts of it, are moving from Westfield to Skyview

Then they are moving schools to backfill Westfield, which is losing a thousand or so students. Those are the moves that are more contentious in the moment because Centreville families and some Chantilly families didn't expect to be moved since they were only focused on the move to Skyview and were ignoring the backfill necessity.

The compaints about changing ES borders is no longer valid, the School Board said they were not going to be doing that. MS adjustments are going to happen and the people involved in the Skyview move were pretty well aware that was going to happen. That seems to have caught other schools off guard.

It’s my understanding that Coates, McNair and Floris are welcoming of this move. Not sure about Oak Hill but they will have to the option to opt out in the 2027-2028 year. So current 7th graders are safe from being forced to move to Skyview. Other kids can’t opt out of moving to a different high school that is not Skyview. So 7th graders who aren’t part of Skyview may still be moved from their current high schools come 2027/2028.

Current high schoolers will most likely be grandfathered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they pulled kids into Skyview from Oakton, South Lakes, Chantilly and Westfield in about even numbers, that would be doable.

Their current plans seem to pull almost all the Skyview students from Westfield, which creates a huge headache for them: trying to backfill the least popular and largest school building.

What you’re suggesting would requite absurd gerrymandering.

Skyview is in the Floris area. It’s a good site, and not one they could have otherwise found had KAA not become available.

Coates and McNair are north of Floris. Floris obviously should go to Skyview. If you don’t then include Coates and McNair at Skyview, you’re creating a Westfield attendance island.

They just need to put their big boy pants on, draw sensible boundaries for Skyview that relieve overcrowding at Chantilly (flip a damn coin for Fox Mill vs. Crossfield), and move what’s needed to backfill Westfield. That means some of Centreville will need to move to Westfield, and we can pare back the ridiculous plan to expand Centreville to 3000, which would be a huge taxpayer rip-off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s why I think Scenario 2 is best. It doesn’t have kids moving high schools. Only middle schools.

What are you talking about? Hundreds of kids-maybe 1000-- switch high schools downstream from Skyview in 2.

Can you give some examples of the moves please?

You can see on the map for scenario 2, click on High School. Anything in stripes is moving to a different school. 1800 kids to Skyview from other high schools and multiple secondary moves to backfill Westfield and I guess for other reasons at other schools. (How are you having this conversation if you don't understand how to read the maps?)

I was typing in street names and seeing the 3 scenarios in words. I do not pay attention to stripes.

I want a specific example of what street is moving to what school so we can talk commute times.

They are moving ES from one HS to another HS. You are welcome to go and find what ever street addresses you want in thse ES boundaries.

Oak Hill is moving from Chantilly to Sky View.
McNair is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Coates is moving from Westfield to Skyview.
Floris, at least parts of it, are moving from Westfield to Skyview

Then they are moving schools to backfill Westfield, which is losing a thousand or so students. Those are the moves that are more contentious in the moment because Centreville families and some Chantilly families didn't expect to be moved since they were only focused on the move to Skyview and were ignoring the backfill necessity.

The compaints about changing ES borders is no longer valid, the School Board said they were not going to be doing that. MS adjustments are going to happen and the people involved in the Skyview move were pretty well aware that was going to happen. That seems to have caught other schools off guard.

It’s my understanding that Coates, McNair and Floris are welcoming of this move. Not sure about Oak Hill but they will have to the option to opt out in the 2027-2028 year. So current 7th graders are safe from being forced to move to Skyview. Other kids can’t opt out of moving to a different high school that is not Skyview. So 7th graders who aren’t part of Skyview may still be moved from their current high schools come 2027/2028.

Current high schoolers will most likely be grandfathered.

The only school that I have heard fighting moving to Skyview is Crossfield where a very vocal group of parents wants to stay at Oakton. I think the other schools are excited or resigned or some combination of both. The moves make sense due to distance and location.

The moves that are being fought are the moves to backfill Westfield, which is losing a lot of students. Those moves are coming from Chantilly and Centreville. Lees Corner thought that they were safe from beingmoved from Chantilly but were sloted to Westfield in the last three scenarios. Navy might be moved to Chantilly, which seems to bother some folks. I have not been following the Centreville moves. Honestly, I have not paid attention to that mess because our school is either at Skyview or SLHS. I am more surprised at the number of people from Centerville and Chantilly that thought this was limited to Skyview and didn't read all the commentary on backfilling Westfield.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they pulled kids into Skyview from Oakton, South Lakes, Chantilly and Westfield in about even numbers, that would be doable.

Their current plans seem to pull almost all the Skyview students from Westfield, which creates a huge headache for them: trying to backfill the least popular and largest school building.

What you’re suggesting would requite absurd gerrymandering.

Skyview is in the Floris area. It’s a good site, and not one they could have otherwise found had KAA not become available.

Coates and McNair are north of Floris. Floris obviously should go to Skyview. If you don’t then include Coates and McNair at Skyview, you’re creating a Westfield attendance island.

They just need to put their big boy pants on, draw sensible boundaries for Skyview that relieve overcrowding at Chantilly (flip a damn coin for Fox Mill vs. Crossfield), and move what’s needed to backfill Westfield. That means some of Centreville will need to move to Westfield, and we can pare back the ridiculous plan to expand Centreville to 3000, which would be a huge taxpayer rip-off.

Screw flipping the coin, take Fox Mill as the politically expedient thing to do. And yes, I am a Fox Mill parent.

[Anonymous]

Rip the bandaid off and just make the boundary and call it a day. Many of the boundaries in this County dont make sense unless you look at demographics...but no one wants to bring that up in public...plenty of neighborhoods being bused way to far so they can fill the numbers of each demographic...nothing to do with transportion at all.

[Anonymous]

It's not hard to figure out why some schools (coates, floris, mcnair) Would be excited to change and some (fox mill, oak hill) would be open to it, while others (lees corner, crossfield, navy) would be against it. Don't hate on rio when everyone wants the same thing, a better or equal situation to what they have right now.
Skyview > Westfield
Centreville > Westfield
Skyview > Centreville
Skyview > South Lakes
South Lakes > Westfield
Chantilly > Skyview
Chantilly > Westfield
Oakton > Skyview
Chantilly = Oakton