GDS Student Newspaper posts about the horrible incident

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that MPD, CPS, and a highly regarded third party investigator are all lying about the lack of evidence?
Again GDS has no incentive to prevent a thorough investigation. Think about it. GDS would be doomed if after all of this the perpetrator(s) committed another assault. GDS has every incentive to find these alleged criminals and get them out of the school. The school would be sued out of existence if they failed to find the perpetrators.

This, exactly. The number of people who are on this board claiming that the school didn't allow a thorough investigation is mind-boggling. If the school or MPD knew who the perpetrators were and failed to take action, there would be hell to pay if the perpetrators ever did anything even remotely abusive again.

And the person upthread who claims Russell will be rotting in hell clearly has a personal, pathological vendetta against him. The word unhinged gets thrown around this board a lot, but that person clearly has a loose screw.

As for the person who claimed they contacted all the admissions departments at the top colleges to alert them (12:12 pm 2/14): I'm pretty sure that is just a troll. No one could be that idiotic. They claim they learned about the incident in the spring of 2025 and demanded to speak to Russell about it. Why anyone would believe that HOS owed them a discussion about a confidential investigation shows a lack of basic judgment or, indeed, any basic understanding of either the law or how any school works. Newsflash: you don't get access to internal information just because you want it. Plus, if you knew so long ago, why did you think it was your job to alert colleges, and not other parents? Thus I can only conclude that you are a troll.

They tried to speak to Russell about the security issues at the school as well as his son being bullied. When Russell dodged him he said he would withdraw his child eventually and I guess he retaliated at Russell for misrepresenting the school as a safe place to get an education while in fact there was this situation, his child getting bullied, and security issues. The person can contact whomever they want, they don't have an obligation to alert other parents, that's GDS job. He probably didn't want to deal with parents because they would do what you are doing, calling them a troll.

It really sounds like you're another paid employee of GDS. For the other person you too are name calling unhinged. Russell tried to hide the problem and only when his hand was forced did he say something. So you have no problem with the fact that Russell tried to deceive you? If the parents never spoke up you never would have know about it to sit here and write your nonsense.

I'm a HS parent. It was not "GDS job" to alert other parents. Alert us about what? An unsubstantiated incident in the middle school is none of my business. I do not feel deceived in the least. If Russell had emailed us last year that there was a rumor that a kid was sa-ed in a MS bathroom, but that literally no one could find evidence of it, I would wonder why he was gossiping. Do you not realize that you should not just repeat every salacious thing you hear?

I still think the person claiming they phoned all those colleges is a troll. But if not, any admissions officer taking that call was relieved when it ended and thought to themselves, "what a nut job." Or worse. Truly bizarre behavior that no one in their right mind thinks is useful or necessary.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DS attended an all boys boarding school for boys in 7th - 12th grade.

A 10th grade boy created a club that required lower grades to perform fellatio on the upperclassmen in order to join the school.

We found out about this because our son tried to protect a lower grade boy from the assault and a fight broke out.

Our son was never sexually assaulted. We pulled our son from the school, sued the school, and won.

My advice - fight like hell to root out whoever did this to the poor boy to stop it from happening to someone else.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

MPD asks for help if there is evidence to pursue a case further. MPD doesn’t ask for the public’s help for every criminal complaint. There needs to be evidence to warrant public assistance.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

Right. MPD absolutely could have put out a request. But it would have been inappropriate for this school to do so.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

MPD asks for help if there is evidence to pursue a case further. MPD doesn’t ask for the public’s help for every criminal complaint. There needs to be evidence to warrant public assistance.

In this case, credible testimony from a SA victim is a form of evidence that warrants this. Incredible that you do not think this case warrants public assistance.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

Right. MPD absolutely could have put out a request. But it would have been inappropriate for this school to do so.

Why would that be inappropriate? Would it be inappropriate if the parents went to the press/news to ask for assistance in the case?

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

Right. MPD absolutely could have put out a request. But it would have been inappropriate for this school to do so.

Why would that be inappropriate? Would it be inappropriate if the parents went to the press/news to ask for assistance in the case?

I’m sorry, but it’s inappropriate and I believe quite illegal and for the school to publicize that something happened to this boy. The legal Jeopardy for the school would’ve been immense. Anyone that says the parents were waiving their right when they asked the school to contact the community is missing a very important piece of this:. You cannot waive your right to the protection of a law. The law will always be there for you, which is why the school cannot put itself in that position. Instead, they appropriately cooperated with authorities. If the victim with his parents wants to publicize it (which they did) that is the proper channel for that to take place.

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The clearance rate for SA is very low. An allegation can be true and the police can decline to prosecute.

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If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?

At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.

There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.

I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.

I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.

By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.

What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?

What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?

+1 MPD just filed some paperwork, the CPD just made sure the kid was safe at home, and the independent investigation was just meant for the school to legally cover themselves.

What actual investigation occurred? Nothing was done. At all.

A few questions.

1) Who is CPD? Do you mean CPS? If so, CPS does not investigate same age SA, that is for MPD to investigate. CPS's entire responsibility it to address abuse or neglect by parents or caregivers, with the latter including school staff. Their role here would be to determine whether there was an issue of the school failure to protect, or of the parents somehow being involved (e.g. parents are encouraging kid to make false allegations, or parents are the actual abuser and kid is deflecting).

2) How do you know what MPD, and the independent investigators did or didn't do?

3) If it's true that MPD and the independent investigators (the people who were ethically required to investigate) didn't investigate, then why are you blaming the school?

Agree, the CPS was not going to be helpful here. If MDP has no clear leads, they move on. Their resources are limited. The independent investigator works for the school, for the benefit of the school. They are just legal protection.

What I do blame is the school for not allowing the parents to ask the school community for information to help the case. This could have been done a long time ago. Curious why they would have blocked this?

Because they were prohibited from investigating both by guidelines for ethical conduct and by the direct request of the MPD.

Sounds wrong. Any other ideas?

So, you think they should have disregarded MPD's directions, or impeded their directions? Do you think they were wrong to report to MPD?

It is common in criminal investigations to ask the public or a community for information that may help the case.

You have your facts wrong if you think the MPD would not allow this. It was the school that refused to assist in this.

MPD asks for help if there is evidence to pursue a case further. MPD doesn’t ask for the public’s help for every criminal complaint. There needs to be evidence to warrant public assistance.

In this case, credible testimony from a SA victim is a form of evidence that warrants this. Incredible that you do not think this case warrants public assistance.

Who else has characterized the complaint as credible aside from the family? Not MPD, not CPS, not an independent investigator. There has to be corroborating evidence that the assault happened at GDS by students. I feel terrible for the child and the family, and also believe that GDS has zero incentive to prevent an investigation that is necessary to keep its students safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that MPD, CPS, and a highly regarded third party investigator are all lying about the lack of evidence?
Again GDS has no incentive to prevent a thorough investigation. Think about it. GDS would be doomed if after all of this the perpetrator(s) committed another assault. GDS has every incentive to find these alleged criminals and get them out of the school. The school would be sued out of existence if they failed to find the perpetrators.

The police incentive to do less is saving themselves work or telling themselves that they will use the extra bandwidth to investigate crimes they have a better chance of solving or those with a smaller chance of pissing someone important off. The school incentive is that they can say that nothing happened and not be the place where this is definitely happened. And it can take care of the problem by just asking the suspected assailants to leave and it’s all hidden because people get counseled out or leave Gds for various reasons each year.

Regarding the investigation, for what it’s worth, I have multiple children there, including those in the likely grade of the victim or assailants and none of them talked to an investigator, and they don’t know of any other children who have. I don’t know of any parents who say their children have spoken to anyone.

The investigator supposedly didn’t find anything, but as far as I know, not even the board of trustees saw that report. Nor does it seem like there’s any reason for them to not give it to the kids parents as it’s not legally privileged.

In the school didn’t bother to remind the kids about how to report things and deal with incidents until after the parents stepped up

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that MPD, CPS, and a highly regarded third party investigator are all lying about the lack of evidence?
Again GDS has no incentive to prevent a thorough investigation. Think about it. GDS would be doomed if after all of this the perpetrator(s) committed another assault. GDS has every incentive to find these alleged criminals and get them out of the school. The school would be sued out of existence if they failed to find the perpetrators.

The police incentive to do less is saving themselves work or telling themselves that they will use the extra bandwidth to investigate crimes they have a better chance of solving or those with a smaller chance of pissing someone important off. The school incentive is that they can say that nothing happened and not be the place where this is definitely happened. And it can take care of the problem by just asking the suspected assailants to leave and it’s all hidden because people get counseled out or leave Gds for various reasons each year.

Regarding the investigation, for what it’s worth, I have multiple children there, including those in the likely grade of the victim or assailants and none of them talked to an investigator, and they don’t know of any other children who have. I don’t know of any parents who say their children have spoken to anyone.

The investigator supposedly didn’t find anything, but as far as I know, not even the board of trustees saw that report. Nor does it seem like there’s any reason for them to not give it to the kids parents as it’s not legally privileged.

In the school didn’t bother to remind the kids about how to report things and deal with incidents until after the parents stepped up

But did your kids know anything about this? I don’t think an investigation would talk to every child in the grade, just those who would be likely to have information. Maybe friends of the victim, kids who matched any physical description of the perpetrator, etc. the fact that a kid with no information about the incident was not asked about it does not seem to raise any red flags.