FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

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If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

She stated on Nextdoor that she is a representative of FairFactss on BRAC. Is that personal capacity? Her name is on the BRAC membership list. If she is contributing and voting on behalf of FAIRFACTS it is hard to think it is just personal.
This is a solution to a lot of problems with some boundary issues for a lot of students. Why is she so upset about this purchase? It solves serious problems for this area. Don't we all want what is best?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

DP. The PP is correct - you are lying. The objections are about the lack of transparency re: the PURCHASE of KAA - not about the school itself. And you know this. No one is begrudging a school to an area of the county that clearly needs it. But once again, you twist any questions about transparency into "They're trying to kill this school!!!" Stop lying.

Anyone knows that you do not advertise that you want to purchase a certain property. The need has been acknowledged for many, many years. How could you be transparent under these circumstances? That is ridiculous on its face.


She gave all sorts of reasons in her statement and responses. One of them was that FCPS has "excess property" implying that FCPS could use that. Of course, we have been told for years that there is not any available property for this western high school. (If they have so much "excess property" they could sell it to pay for KAA. Hopefully.)

She also had the location wrong in one of her responses and indicated it would be a problem for buses--which is ridiculous. It is basically a private drive with plenty of room. And, remember, it comes with two additional buildings.

Sorry you don't want to admit it--but they are far more focused on this than on the boundary issues across the county. And, oddly enough, all the objections seem to be coming from Great Falls. Why? It just does not make sense.

Other than the ONE GF person on ND who keeps posting about it, who else are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“We’re not AGAINST a new school, we just think there should have been enough transparency around FCPS’s plans that a deal was never possible.”

Someone wants to have their cake and eat it, too…

If a new school had been hastily purchased in the McLean area to be used to relieve overcrowding at McLean/Marshall, you'd be taking to your fainting couch. Spare us all.

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If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

She stated on Nextdoor that she is a representative of FairFactss on BRAC. Is that personal capacity? Her name is on the BRAC membership list. If she is contributing and voting on behalf of FAIRFACTS it is hard to think it is just personal.
This is a solution to a lot of problems with some boundary issues for a lot of students. Why is she so upset about this purchase? It solves serious problems for this area. Don't we all want what is best?

A guy runs Fairfacts.

Not some woman on nextdoor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

DP. The PP is correct - you are lying. The objections are about the lack of transparency re: the PURCHASE of KAA - not about the school itself. And you know this. No one is begrudging a school to an area of the county that clearly needs it. But once again, you twist any questions about transparency into "They're trying to kill this school!!!" Stop lying.

Anyone knows that you do not advertise that you want to purchase a certain property. The need has been acknowledged for many, many years. How could you be transparent under these circumstances? That is ridiculous on its face.


She gave all sorts of reasons in her statement and responses. One of them was that FCPS has "excess property" implying that FCPS could use that. Of course, we have been told for years that there is not any available property for this western high school. (If they have so much "excess property" they could sell it to pay for KAA. Hopefully.)

She also had the location wrong in one of her responses and indicated it would be a problem for buses--which is ridiculous. It is basically a private drive with plenty of room. And, remember, it comes with two additional buildings.

Sorry you don't want to admit it--but they are far more focused on this than on the boundary issues across the county. And, oddly enough, all the objections seem to be coming from Great Falls. Why? It just does not make sense.

Other than the ONE GF person on ND who keeps posting about it, who else are you talking about?

A representative of FairFacts on BRAC who has posted on Nextdoor. And, there are multiple responses against it on Nextdoor from Great Falls. Why? I don't see responses from other neighborhoods against it.

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Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

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Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

Plenty of Region 1 comments here seem to keep injecting their opinion about what should be done with the new Region 5 high school.

And, they have been doing this since the purchase was announced. Or, at least I can confirm from the Nextdoor posts. I assume it is some of the same people.

Fairfacts is a facebook group, not individuals on nextdoor.

You keep citing nextdoor as your "gotcha" against fairfacts.

But those nextdoor posts are just from individuals. They are not fairfacts.

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Honestly, for as vocal and repetitive as the one person on ND is, the above PP is just as annoying, repeating all her talking points over and over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

She stated on Nextdoor that she is a representative of FairFactss on BRAC. Is that personal capacity? Her name is on the BRAC membership list. If she is contributing and voting on behalf of FAIRFACTS it is hard to think it is just personal.
This is a solution to a lot of problems with some boundary issues for a lot of students. Why is she so upset about this purchase? It solves serious problems for this area. Don't we all want what is best?

A guy runs Fairfacts.

Not some woman on nextdoor.

Does he have a voice on BRAC like she does?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

She stated on Nextdoor that she is a representative of FairFactss on BRAC. Is that personal capacity? Her name is on the BRAC membership list. If she is contributing and voting on behalf of FAIRFACTS it is hard to think it is just personal.
This is a solution to a lot of problems with some boundary issues for a lot of students. Why is she so upset about this purchase? It solves serious problems for this area. Don't we all want what is best?

A guy runs Fairfacts.

Not some woman on nextdoor.

Not sure that’s quite right. Seems like there are a handful of folks, mostly from the Langley area, who are the moderators of the FB page and can post on that page under the “FairFACTS Matters” moniker.

One of them is a BRAC member and she’s also posted on Next Door in the past, although she’s not the Next Door poster who posted the very cranky post earlier today.

[Anonymous]

From what I gather, there is someone in here who really wants to cast dispersions on great falls and ffm, gee, I wonder if it is the person whose life work is attacking great falls on DCUM.

Pretty pathetic. We should just ignore her and her constant attempts to paint gf as against the school rather than having questions about the purchase.

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Anonymous wrote:From what I gather, there is someone in here who really wants to cast dispersions on great falls and ffm, gee, I wonder if it is the person whose life work is attacking great falls on DCUM.

Pretty pathetic. We should just ignore her and her constant attempts to paint gf as against the school rather than having questions about the purchase.

PSA - you mean “cast aspersions” rather than “cast dispersions.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I gather, there is someone in here who really wants to cast dispersions on great falls and ffm, gee, I wonder if it is the person whose life work is attacking great falls on DCUM.

Pretty pathetic. We should just ignore her and her constant attempts to paint gf as against the school rather than having questions about the purchase.

LOL! Not attacking Great Falls. Just pointing out that the people attacking KAA purchase all seem to be from Great Falls. Hard to tell on DCUM, but it is very clear on Nextdoor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FairFACTS Matters posted tonight that they’d met with Region 5 representatives on the BRAC who agreed to withdraw their (already DOA) proposal to move Forestville to Herndon but the explanation for why the recommendation was made in the first place was unclear.

Reading between the lines it sounded like someone from Marshall who was upset about the Thru Consulting proposal to move some kids who can walk to a Region 5 school to another school somehow concluded it had something to do with overcrowding at Langley, but it wasn’t spelled out. It really makes you think that Thru has withheld so much requested information from the BRAC members that some end up drawing really odd inferences on their own. This process is so, so flawed.

Thank you for this!

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Anonymous wrote:FairFACTS Matters posted tonight that they’d met with Region 5 representatives on the BRAC who agreed to withdraw their (already DOA) proposal to move Forestville to Herndon but the explanation for why the recommendation was made in the first place was unclear.

Reading between the lines it sounded like someone from Marshall who was upset about the Thru Consulting proposal to move some kids who can walk to a Region 5 school to another school somehow concluded it had something to do with overcrowding at Langley, but it wasn’t spelled out. It really makes you think that Thru has withheld so much requested information from the BRAC members that some end up drawing really odd inferences on their own. This process is so, so flawed.

Thank you for this!

This was an obvious error, due, I guess, to confusion. But, it illustrates how flawed it is. How many recs will be made based on personal views without understanding? Many pyramids cover wide areas. The reps cannot possibly know r ramifications of decisions. What a mess.

[Anonymous]

It really does sound like some BRAC members are clueless. That’s a result of FCPS and Thru Consulting not being clear as to the basis for Thru’s June 2025 recommendations and then not providing answers to follow-up questions or requested data.

The ultimate responsibility for this mess doesn’t lie with individual BRAC members but instead with Michelle Reid for orchestrating such a flawed process and with the School Board for allowing it to happen. The incompetence on display is truly staggering.

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If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

She stated on Nextdoor that she is a representative of FairFactss on BRAC. Is that personal capacity? Her name is on the BRAC membership list. If she is contributing and voting on behalf of FAIRFACTS it is hard to think it is just personal.
This is a solution to a lot of problems with some boundary issues for a lot of students. Why is she so upset about this purchase? It solves serious problems for this area. Don't we all want what is best?

Did she say on the Nextdoor post that she was posting in her capacity as fairfacts matters rep?

If not then gtfoh.