FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

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Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

DP. The PP is correct - you are lying. The objections are about the lack of transparency re: the PURCHASE of KAA - not about the school itself. And you know this. No one is begrudging a school to an area of the county that clearly needs it. But once again, you twist any questions about transparency into "They're trying to kill this school!!!" Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Robyn Lady responds to the Region 5/Forestville controversy:

At the most recent BRAC meeting, representatives from each region presented their respective priorities. I was surprised to learn that one of Region 5's priorities was to recommend the redistricting of Forestville Elementary School from its current pathway to Herndon Middle School and Herndon High School.

This recommendation is problematic for two reasons:

1. It was not an official draft proposal. This suggestion was not included in any of the potential boundary change maps shared with the community for feedback.

2. It does not reflect our community's feedback. The priorities identified for Region 1 are based directly on the extensive feedback received from our constituents. This new suggestion is entirely separate from any identified needs.

Furthermore, I had the opportunity to discuss this situation directly with Superintendent Dr. Reid over the weekend. She shared that while each region is invited to share their priorities, it does not guarantee their implementation. Dr. Reid noted that since the current models all have Forestville remaining in the Langley pyramid and Langley is not considered to be overcrowded, she does not see that boundary likely to be recommended for change.

I will continue to advocate for the interests of our community. I believe it is critical that the committee focuses on addressing the priorities that have been articulated by the families and staff within each region. The integrity of the boundary review process depends on each representative's commitment to this principle.

Wow. Pretty impressed that Lady put this out. Good for her.

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What business is it of Region 5 to stick their nose into the school boundaries of another district altogether? How incredibly arrogant. Glad they got shut down.

[Anonymous]

That particular Great Falls poster is a retired boomer with nothing better to do. She has made many, many posts complaining about the school and everything else FCPS that makes the news. Her whole NextDoor post history is just one complaint after another. I'm sure you've met people like her before. Best just to ignore them.

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Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

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Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

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Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

Plenty of Region 1 comments here seem to keep injecting their opinion about what should be done with the new Region 5 high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

DP. The PP is correct - you are lying. The objections are about the lack of transparency re: the PURCHASE of KAA - not about the school itself. And you know this. No one is begrudging a school to an area of the county that clearly needs it. But once again, you twist any questions about transparency into "They're trying to kill this school!!!" Stop lying.

Anyone knows that you do not advertise that you want to purchase a certain property. The need has been acknowledged for many, many years. How could you be transparent under these circumstances? That is ridiculous on its face.


She gave all sorts of reasons in her statement and responses. One of them was that FCPS has "excess property" implying that FCPS could use that. Of course, we have been told for years that there is not any available property for this western high school. (If they have so much "excess property" they could sell it to pay for KAA. Hopefully.)

She also had the location wrong in one of her responses and indicated it would be a problem for buses--which is ridiculous. It is basically a private drive with plenty of room. And, remember, it comes with two additional buildings.

Sorry you don't want to admit it--but they are far more focused on this than on the boundary issues across the county. And, oddly enough, all the objections seem to be coming from Great Falls. Why? It just does not make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

I mean, as much as I agree a school is needed in that area - this person has a lot of good points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

If they are posting in their personal capacity on znext door, that has nothing at all to do with Fairfacts on facebook.

Fairfacts members from all over the county can post on the page to express their unique, original view points. Their is even one member of that page who posts on almost every thread in favor of rezoning.

But most, if not all, of the actual Fairfacts posts from the moderators are just sharing information about the rezoning process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

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Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

Plenty of Region 1 comments here seem to keep injecting their opinion about what should be done with the new Region 5 high school.

And, they have been doing this since the purchase was announced. Or, at least I can confirm from the Nextdoor posts. I assume it is some of the same people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

This one person is "agitated" about it. Maybe a handful of others. Don't lump all of GF in with her. She's very vocal on the issue, but again - she is one person.

[Anonymous]

“We’re not AGAINST a new school, we just think there should have been enough transparency around FCPS’s plans that a deal was never possible.”

Someone wants to have their cake and eat it, too…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

DP. Again: only a handful of people have spoken out about KAA, and the concern is over the financial transparency - or lack thereof. No one is begrudging a high school for your area. Stop playing the victim. You'd be questioning the purchase if it was in any other area of the county - particularly the McLean area. Don't pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone from Great Falls just posted this on Nextdoor:

"Active Duty/Retired Navy in Fairfax County. $150M USS Saudi Academy to set sail on Thursday with no inspection, no punch list, no sea trial.
Neighbors, I have been trying to seek those concerned with the fact that on Thursday a $150M check of our taxpayer dollars from Fairfax County Public Schools will go to Saudi Arabia for a building in Herndon that has had no engineering inspection, punch list or ops manual developed for educational capability. What would Adm. Rickover think of this? We do not even know if all the sinks, toilets and showers operate or if the Olympic size swimming pool needs to be drained and replastered for $1M. Yet your county leaders (Fairfax County Scool Board) has authorizef buying, with your dollars, this pig in a poke. Tomorrow is the last day to contact your school board members to request a delay in purchase until these fundamental inspections have taken place and are documented."

The responses so far on Next Door are not very sympathetic to her complaints.

I wonder if she realizes that FCPS upped Langley’s expansion back in 2018 by several hundred seats over what had previously been disclosed to county residents in prior CIPs.

At the time Langley parents said that was a smart decision, but some of them sure are agitated over this purchase that will benefit kids in a different part of the county.

Well, I don't care what they do with Forestville, but, since I live in KAA area, I kind of resent the Great Falls people and all their negative comments about the purchase that is so badly needed by this community.

I do not understand why they are so against this. Their new association has strongly objected to it and so has FairFacts matters from what I can tell. THRU made lots of disturbing recommendations about this area and KAA is a wonderful solution to prevent long distant commutes.

We’ve already gone over this ad naseaum , fairfacts matters has taken no position on the new school purchase and it is not a great falls organization.

You shouldn’t lie - it really hurts your credibility.

Well, one of their official reps on BRAC have posted lengthy statements on Nextdoor about this and listed all sorts of objections.
So, who does speak for FairFACTS? Not the person who represents them?

Maybe, your credibility is at risk. I don't lie.

DP. The PP is correct - you are lying. The objections are about the lack of transparency re: the PURCHASE of KAA - not about the school itself. And you know this. No one is begrudging a school to an area of the county that clearly needs it. But once again, you twist any questions about transparency into "They're trying to kill this school!!!" Stop lying.

Anyone knows that you do not advertise that you want to purchase a certain property. The need has been acknowledged for many, many years. How could you be transparent under these circumstances? That is ridiculous on its face.


She gave all sorts of reasons in her statement and responses. One of them was that FCPS has "excess property" implying that FCPS could use that. Of course, we have been told for years that there is not any available property for this western high school. (If they have so much "excess property" they could sell it to pay for KAA. Hopefully.)

She also had the location wrong in one of her responses and indicated it would be a problem for buses--which is ridiculous. It is basically a private drive with plenty of room. And, remember, it comes with two additional buildings.

Sorry you don't want to admit it--but they are far more focused on this than on the boundary issues across the county. And, oddly enough, all the objections seem to be coming from Great Falls. Why? It just does not make sense.

There are very, very few posts on the Fairfacts page about this saudi school purchase, except for how it might relate to rezoning, along with a handful of post about FCPS' overall lack of transparency.

Why are you so against information sharing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

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Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

Plenty of Region 1 comments here seem to keep injecting their opinion about what should be done with the new Region 5 high school.

Nope. Not one. People are allowed to question the transparency of this purchase. No one has said Region 5 doesn't need a new high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP who posted to see more information.

I am not V and am very interested in finding out more --but I still want to know what the other recommendations were and who sat in the Region 5 group. And, I would also like to see what the Region 1 recommendations were. Why? I find it very odd that Region 1 rep came back to FairFacts Matter and only reported on 1 priority from 1 group.

Fairfacts matters has representatives on BRAC. So there was no game of telephone, FFM heard it directly.

That's not PP's point. She is curious why, of all the priorities that the BRAC members from the different regions shared in the last meeting, the FairFACTS Matters representative on BRAC only flagged the Forestville recommendation from Region 5 that could impact the Langley boundary.

I was pointing out that PP’s central premise was wrong.

I fully support thru releasing all the priorities for all the regions. While I don’t know specifically what region 1’s priorities were, I know for a fact that they didn’t involve moving schools that are not in their region.

+1
Can you imagine the outrage if Region 1 was advocating moving a Region 5 school out of its current boundary? That's some unreal chutzpah on the part of Region 5.

Plenty of Region 1 comments here seem to keep injecting their opinion about what should be done with the new Region 5 high school.

And, they have been doing this since the purchase was announced. Or, at least I can confirm from the Nextdoor posts. I assume it is some of the same people.

Fairfacts is a facebook group, not individuals on nextdoor.

You keep citing nextdoor as your "gotcha" against fairfacts.

But those nextdoor posts are just from individuals. They are not fairfacts.