FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

[Anonymous]

FCPS makes a big show of soliciting feedback on the boundary proposals and then, when that feedback is highly critical, they pivot to saying they need to act on behalf of those who don’t bother to make themselves heard.

So it’s basically a “heads I win, tails you lose” approach on their part.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS makes a big show of soliciting feedback on the boundary proposals and then, when that feedback is highly critical, they pivot to saying they need to act on behalf of those who don’t bother to make themselves heard.

So it’s basically a “heads I win, tails you lose” approach on their part.

Yup. It has been that way since I started answering their surveys. I still answer them but somehow or another, the result never looks like what I know people who are answering them are saying. Most of the time they are written in a way to avoid the obvious nos.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

Yes, the organized loud voices. Kind of like the winners of the primaries represent the entire party on the ticket when only a small percentage of people participate in the primaries. If it was that important to people, more people would take the time to vote in primaries and we might end up with more moderate candidates. Instead most people complain about who the people with the loud voices chose. No one thinks that Trump represents the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Reprublicans couldn't be bothered to show up at the primaries. The majority of the country doesn't show up to the general election.

The school board knows that the people motivated to show up at meetings and complain on message boards are that small percentage of the population with a loud voice. What people here don't want to hear is 1) Most people don't care about redistricting and 2) a good percentage of people are fine with it and thinks it needs to happen.

I was a member of the FB group for boundaries, I dropped out because I saw little happening there. I did not see a lot of conversation or even high numbers. I saw them trying to raise money and very few people donating. Really, it made clear to me that the "grass roots" organization didn't represent that many people and that there was little participation.

The anti-boundaries crowd is smaller then you think and that is why it is not going to have much of an impact. But they are happily dominating this board and talking to themselves. If anyone voices a difference they are Vanessa, that has been a new one, a school board members, from Gatehouse, or a radical who hates children. So there is no real conversation other then outrage.

[Anonymous]

And this repeated idiocy - "attacking trans kids" - is absurd. No one is attacking trans kids. Simply wanting boys and girls to have separate bathrooms/locker rooms/teams is attacking no one. It's common sense. It's biology. Your hyperbole is what drives moderates *away* from the Democrats but you're so blinded by your narrow echo chamber that you think anyone who disagrees with you must be "MAGA". Grow up.

In the last school board election, the challenger had a van with posterboards taped all over it directly attacking trans kids and discussing how it is unnatural and an abomination. I am not exaggerating. It wasn't just keeping boys out of girls locker rooms, it was flat out hellfire and brimstone.

And the fact that you are so up in arms that less then 1% of the population might want to use a bathroom that differs then their biological gender is amazing to me. You are talking about a few kids at each school, at most. What I find gross is that you assume that those kids want to attack girls, when that is not the case. And you ignore the fact that a male can walk into any locker room and attack girls. Or that the cases of kids being assaulted in locker rooms have been hazing rituals, mainly boys on boys, or coaches. Confounding that real issue with the trans kids wanting to use a different bathroom is gross.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

Yes, the organized loud voices. Kind of like the winners of the primaries represent the entire party on the ticket when only a small percentage of people participate in the primaries. If it was that important to people, more people would take the time to vote in primaries and we might end up with more moderate candidates. Instead most people complain about who the people with the loud voices chose. No one thinks that Trump represents the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Reprublicans couldn't be bothered to show up at the primaries. The majority of the country doesn't show up to the general election.

The school board knows that the people motivated to show up at meetings and complain on message boards are that small percentage of the population with a loud voice. What people here don't want to hear is 1) Most people don't care about redistricting and 2) a good percentage of people are fine with it and thinks it needs to happen.

I was a member of the FB group for boundaries, I dropped out because I saw little happening there. I did not see a lot of conversation or even high numbers. I saw them trying to raise money and very few people donating. Really, it made clear to me that the "grass roots" organization didn't represent that many people and that there was little participation.

The anti-boundaries crowd is smaller then you think and that is why it is not going to have much of an impact. But they are happily dominating this board and talking to themselves. If anyone voices a difference they are Vanessa, that has been a new one, a school board members, from Gatehouse, or a radical who hates children. So there is no real conversation other than outrage.

What’s the phrase? Whistling past the graveyard. The school board knows they’re about to take a major hit to the Dem brand for this. You’re trying a little too hard to make it seem like people are indifferent to redistricting, but that’s because you are trying to drive your agenda.

Take a trip around Timberlane neighborhoods then come back to discuss. You’ll feel very differently.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

Yes, the organized loud voices. Kind of like the winners of the primaries represent the entire party on the ticket when only a small percentage of people participate in the primaries. If it was that important to people, more people would take the time to vote in primaries and we might end up with more moderate candidates. Instead most people complain about who the people with the loud voices chose. No one thinks that Trump represents the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Reprublicans couldn't be bothered to show up at the primaries. The majority of the country doesn't show up to the general election.

The school board knows that the people motivated to show up at meetings and complain on message boards are that small percentage of the population with a loud voice. What people here don't want to hear is 1) Most people don't care about redistricting and 2) a good percentage of people are fine with it and thinks it needs to happen.

I was a member of the FB group for boundaries, I dropped out because I saw little happening there. I did not see a lot of conversation or even high numbers. I saw them trying to raise money and very few people donating. Really, it made clear to me that the "grass roots" organization didn't represent that many people and that there was little participation.

The anti-boundaries crowd is smaller then you think and that is why it is not going to have much of an impact. But they are happily dominating this board and talking to themselves. If anyone voices a difference they are Vanessa, that has been a new one, a school board members, from Gatehouse, or a radical who hates children. So there is no real conversation other than outrage.

What’s the phrase? Whistling past the graveyard. The school board knows they’re about to take a major hit to the Dem brand for this. You’re trying a little too hard to make it seem like people are indifferent to redistricting, but that’s because you are trying to drive your agenda.

Take a trip around Timberlane neighborhoods then come back to discuss. You’ll feel very differently.

But they are not going to take a hit because they know that 1) the Republicans are not going to run moderates 2) most people will hold their nose and vote for the people who are not trying to take the country back to the 1950s.

A small percentage of people won't vote for their School Board Rep over boundaries but most will because most don't care or support the changes.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Locally, it won't change. Decreased support in NoVA for dems would help Rs win statewide but that's as far as it goes.

Generally, the richest will continue to manage/avoid most of the problems by paying for tutors, private schools, driving kids every day after getting a pupil placement. The system will continue to decline, perhaps with a mere handful of "good" schools left after another decade, perhaps not.

Some middle class/rich will increasingly turn to homeschooling, which is more feasible and effective than ever.

Some people will just move.

In all cases, as the system declines the area will continue to be blue, with or without a thriving private school lane for those with enough money/luck with scholarships to take that route.

See: Baltimore, New York City, et. al.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

Yes, the organized loud voices. Kind of like the winners of the primaries represent the entire party on the ticket when only a small percentage of people participate in the primaries. If it was that important to people, more people would take the time to vote in primaries and we might end up with more moderate candidates. Instead most people complain about who the people with the loud voices chose. No one thinks that Trump represents the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Reprublicans couldn't be bothered to show up at the primaries. The majority of the country doesn't show up to the general election.

The school board knows that the people motivated to show up at meetings and complain on message boards are that small percentage of the population with a loud voice. What people here don't want to hear is 1) Most people don't care about redistricting and 2) a good percentage of people are fine with it and thinks it needs to happen.

I was a member of the FB group for boundaries, I dropped out because I saw little happening there. I did not see a lot of conversation or even high numbers. I saw them trying to raise money and very few people donating. Really, it made clear to me that the "grass roots" organization didn't represent that many people and that there was little participation.

The anti-boundaries crowd is smaller then you think and that is why it is not going to have much of an impact. But they are happily dominating this board and talking to themselves. If anyone voices a difference they are Vanessa, that has been a new one, a school board members, from Gatehouse, or a radical who hates children. So there is no real conversation other then outrage.

You can obsess about who posts on this forum but FCPS held community meetings and had an online tool to provide input on the boundary proposals. You didn’t have to be noisy or organized to provide feedback at these meetings or on this tool. You just needed to show up or take a few minutes to input your comments in the tool.

That feedback was highly critical of the proposals. FCPS isn’t denying that but they are still likely to ignore it, not because there is any compelling need for boundary changes now, but because they’ve already made such a big deal about the boundary review that they’ll feel obligated to do something to justify the time and money spent on the exercise.

You can keep playing the “silent majority” game (just like some of the School Board members like to do) but the truth is that you’re trying to conjure up support for changes that are both unnecessary and opposed by most of those who’ll be affected, even if others are indifferent or haven’t been paying attention.

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And this repeated idiocy - "attacking trans kids" - is absurd. No one is attacking trans kids. Simply wanting boys and girls to have separate bathrooms/locker rooms/teams is attacking no one. It's common sense. It's biology. Your hyperbole is what drives moderates *away* from the Democrats but you're so blinded by your narrow echo chamber that you think anyone who disagrees with you must be "MAGA". Grow up.

In the last school board election, the challenger had a van with posterboards taped all over it directly attacking trans kids and discussing how it is unnatural and an abomination. I am not exaggerating. It wasn't just keeping boys out of girls locker rooms, it was flat out hellfire and brimstone.

And the fact that you are so up in arms that less then 1% of the population might want to use a bathroom that differs then their biological gender is amazing to me. You are talking about a few kids at each school, at most. What I find gross is that you assume that those kids want to attack girls, when that is not the case. And you ignore the fact that a male can walk into any locker room and attack girls. Or that the cases of kids being assaulted in locker rooms have been hazing rituals, mainly boys on boys, or coaches. Confounding that real issue with the trans kids wanting to use a different bathroom is gross.

There are 12 School Board seats. No idea who you are referring to when you refer to “the challenger,” but it suggests you either don’t know much about FCPS or are deliberately harping on the extreme views of one another unsuccessful candidate to avoid dealing with the actions being taken by the 12 sitting School Board members.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Sometimes, I think the only people paying attention to the School Board is on DCUM. Most people are clueless. There really is no longer any local news that people read or listen to. The left listens to their echo chamber and the right to theirs.

DCUM is such a small percentage of the County that it is crazy to me that people on here think that the School Board is ignoring what everyone wants. Outside of the fact that people who don't agree with the loud anti-boundary folks are not posting, for the most part, there are other ways that people communicate with the School Board and we don't know what they are saying. The loudest voice, at meetings or on this board, is not necessarily speaking for the majority. They are just talking the loudest.

I strongly suspect most people are not paying attention to the boundary changes. I know that I posted about the purchase of KAA on my neighborhood FB group when it was initially being discussed to crickets. A few weeks ago someone posted, in surprise, that it had been purchased. A few people responded to that. For the most part, no one in my neighborhood is dicsussing it even though it impacts our region. We know that the School Board ignores the surveys it puts out, probably because the people responding are the same families and the returns are not representative of the county as a whole.

I have toyed with the idea of particiapting in the Republican primaries in order to vote for the Republican Moderates because the Deomcratic candidates are rarely appealing to me.

But you are ignoring the thousands of participants from the community meetings who overwhelmingly opposed the boundary changes. You’re right that a segment of the county isn’t paying attention, but watch how that changes when the final maps come out. Moved areas are going to be up in arms.

Yes, the organized loud voices. Kind of like the winners of the primaries represent the entire party on the ticket when only a small percentage of people participate in the primaries. If it was that important to people, more people would take the time to vote in primaries and we might end up with more moderate candidates. Instead most people complain about who the people with the loud voices chose. No one thinks that Trump represents the majority of Republicans, but the majority of Reprublicans couldn't be bothered to show up at the primaries. The majority of the country doesn't show up to the general election.

The school board knows that the people motivated to show up at meetings and complain on message boards are that small percentage of the population with a loud voice. What people here don't want to hear is 1) Most people don't care about redistricting and 2) a good percentage of people are fine with it and thinks it needs to happen.

I was a member of the FB group for boundaries, I dropped out because I saw little happening there. I did not see a lot of conversation or even high numbers. I saw them trying to raise money and very few people donating. Really, it made clear to me that the "grass roots" organization didn't represent that many people and that there was little participation.

The anti-boundaries crowd is smaller then you think and that is why it is not going to have much of an impact. But they are happily dominating this board and talking to themselves. If anyone voices a difference they are Vanessa, that has been a new one, a school board members, from Gatehouse, or a radical who hates children. So there is no real conversation other then outrage.

You are crazy to claim that only a "small number" of people are against boundary changes.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Locally, it won't change. Decreased support in NoVA for dems would help Rs win statewide but that's as far as it goes.

Generally, the richest will continue to manage/avoid most of the problems by paying for tutors, private schools, driving kids every day after getting a pupil placement. The system will continue to decline, perhaps with a mere handful of "good" schools left after another decade, perhaps not.

Some middle class/rich will increasingly turn to homeschooling, which is more feasible and effective than ever.

Some people will just move.

In all cases, as the system declines the area will continue to be blue, with or without a thriving private school lane for those with enough money/luck with scholarships to take that route.

See: Baltimore, New York City, et. al.

This is spot on. Of all things, schools, which many constituents think to be among the most important issues, are where Democratic policies can have the most detrimental impact. But yet the pattern repeats. Once the schools have been ruined there is no recovery.

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Locally, it won't change. Decreased support in NoVA for dems would help Rs win statewide but that's as far as it goes.

Generally, the richest will continue to manage/avoid most of the problems by paying for tutors, private schools, driving kids every day after getting a pupil placement. The system will continue to decline, perhaps with a mere handful of "good" schools left after another decade, perhaps not.

Some middle class/rich will increasingly turn to homeschooling, which is more feasible and effective than ever.

Some people will just move.

In all cases, as the system declines the area will continue to be blue, with or without a thriving private school lane for those with enough money/luck with scholarships to take that route.

See: Baltimore, New York City, et. al.

This is spot on. Of all things, schools, which many constituents think to be among the most important issues, are where Democratic policies can have the most detrimental impact. But yet the pattern repeats. Once the schools have been ruined there is no recovery.

And you think the public schools in Oklahoma, for example, are better?

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Locally, it won't change. Decreased support in NoVA for dems would help Rs win statewide but that's as far as it goes.

Generally, the richest will continue to manage/avoid most of the problems by paying for tutors, private schools, driving kids every day after getting a pupil placement. The system will continue to decline, perhaps with a mere handful of "good" schools left after another decade, perhaps not.

Some middle class/rich will increasingly turn to homeschooling, which is more feasible and effective than ever.

Some people will just move.

In all cases, as the system declines the area will continue to be blue, with or without a thriving private school lane for those with enough money/luck with scholarships to take that route.

See: Baltimore, New York City, et. al.

This is spot on. Of all things, schools, which many constituents think to be among the most important issues, are where Democratic policies can have the most detrimental impact. But yet the pattern repeats. Once the schools have been ruined there is no recovery.

And you think the public schools in Oklahoma, for example, are better?

Have you seen the test scores for the out of favor FCPS high schools?

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DP. What are you talking about? In 2020, Gerry Connolly won VA-11 with 71% of the vote. That district has never been "solidly red".

PP should have said 20 years ago rather than 15. Tom Davis, a centrist Republican, won the 11th District by large margins from 1994 to 2006. It's been solidly blue in just about all elections for over 15 years.

The districts have been redrawn. Frank Wolf was my congressman until 2016. Then Barbara Comstock, I think. Now, I am in the 11th district--same house.

And there was John Warner, Virginia's moderate Republican senator until 2009. He lived in Alexandria. Those days are long over.

There is nary an opening for a republican to be reelected or appointed to the FCPS, FCCPS, or APS school boards ever again.

I don’t believe that, and I typically voted blue. All politics is local and the school board is cutting deeply into its margins with the boundary fiasco.

Locally, it won't change. Decreased support in NoVA for dems would help Rs win statewide but that's as far as it goes.

Generally, the richest will continue to manage/avoid most of the problems by paying for tutors, private schools, driving kids every day after getting a pupil placement. The system will continue to decline, perhaps with a mere handful of "good" schools left after another decade, perhaps not.

Some middle class/rich will increasingly turn to homeschooling, which is more feasible and effective than ever.

Some people will just move.

In all cases, as the system declines the area will continue to be blue, with or without a thriving private school lane for those with enough money/luck with scholarships to take that route.

See: Baltimore, New York City, et. al.

This is spot on. Of all things, schools, which many constituents think to be among the most important issues, are where Democratic policies can have the most detrimental impact. But yet the pattern repeats. Once the schools have been ruined there is no recovery.

And you think the public schools in Oklahoma, for example, are better?

Have you seen the test scores for the out of favor FCPS high schools?

Yes. I've also seen these rankings as well as similar ones from other sources: https://wallethub.com/edu/e/states-with-the-best-schools/5335

And I am familiar with Ryan Walters and his extreme far right agenda that promises to sink Oklahoma further into the abyss.