Why does everyone think Kamala was such a bad candidate?

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

It's pretty clear that Biden's handlers had no interest in third party input from Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.

But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.

The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.

Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.

Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.

NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.

Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.

Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy

There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.

Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.

I love all of these people trying to dismiss the importance of low literacy rates in electing Trump. If people weren't so poorly educated, they wouldn't be so susceptible to voting against their self interests. Remember Trump said from the onset of his first run that he " loved the uneducated ". We have to own that America is majority stupid.

That’s why he wants to eliminate the Dept of Education. People are in favor of it too because they love bread and circuses.

Canada doesn't have a federal department of education. And yet they consistently have higher academic scores for reading, math, science literacy, etc.

There are many ways of doing things. Interestingly, the same people on this thread who think the US is bombing educationally also believe we should keep doing it the same way, and are outraged by the concept of moving this to the state and locals, where students may be better served than they are under the current structure.

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I'm a liberal democrat but this. I mean things are clearly not working. Not sure how people believe our current govt works effectively? Man, we need overhauling for sure. Like all of it. Not suggesting Trump is the right leader of this effort but at least he's admitting change is needed.

Exactly. States are supposed to be the laboratories of Democracy. Let the states innovate and other states can follow the successful models if they want.

Lots of states are in the business of killing women now. Lest you forget, we are the UNITED States. Basic rights should be guaranteed. You do know that states said in federal filings they wanted pregnant teens because it meant more federal $$ for the states. So, no, it shouldn’t be up to the states. Unless you like serfdom.

Kamala Harris lost because she said things as stupid as this.

People don’t like it when women use their voices.

No, people don't like it when anybody (man or woman) say ridiculous things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

The thought of a major political party in the most powerful country in the world nominating a 78 year old person to seek a first four year term as POTUS is preposterous.

Trump clearly doesn't have POTUS level integrity so I can understand why people chose Biden given that choice in 2020 but it was a ridiculous choice to have and a prime example of why our dysfunctional major parties need to be kicked to the curb.

[Anonymous]

It is really disturbing that Biden was allowed to remain a sitting President after his cognitive decline was exposed in the June debate. The people who immediately took action to remove him (voluntarily or otherwise) as a candidate should have removed him as President too. It proved that they care more about holding onto power than the well being of the country.

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Anonymous wrote:It is really disturbing that Biden was allowed to remain a sitting President after his cognitive decline was exposed in the June debate. The people who immediately took action to remove him (voluntarily or otherwise) as a candidate should have removed him as President too. It proved that they care more about holding onto power than the well being of the country.

Removing a president who isn't willing to be removed is difficult and time consuming. Hopefully, Americans have learned their lesson and won't be electing any more elderly presidents. For those that haven't learned that lesson yet, we have another elderly person moving back into The White House next month to show us all how dumb we are as voters.

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

But did America deserve to lose?

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

But did America deserve to lose?

Of course. Nothing is more important than making Democrats suffer, not even our own well-being.

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

But did America deserve to lose?

No, the American people did not deserve to lose and the Democratic party should have thought about that before spending the last four years playing Weekend at Bernies with the President.

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Anonymous wrote:That she was a bad candidate was revealed in the WSJ article today about how Biden's team knew Biden was out of it. Nowhere does it mention Harris as stepping in, or serving as reassurance for them.

That was a tough read. It appears that senior Democrats knew since 2021 that Biden wasn’t fit to serve. If that’s true, Harris didn’t just deserve to lose but the whole Democratic party deserved to lose.

But did America deserve to lose?

Of course. Nothing is more important than making Democrats suffer, not even our own well-being.

In this case, the Dems that were duped into voting for Biden in 2020 are partially to blame for handing Trump a second term. No, we don't deserve to lose and we don't deserve something as awful as a Trump second term but we all need to learn that elections do have consequences and continually voting for the perceived lesser of two evils is a disaster waiting to happen. The next time a major political party is pushing someone that clearly has no business being POTUS, just say no!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is really disturbing that Biden was allowed to remain a sitting President after his cognitive decline was exposed in the June debate. The people who immediately took action to remove him (voluntarily or otherwise) as a candidate should have removed him as President too. It proved that they care more about holding onto power than the well being of the country.

The problem was that neither Democrats nor Republicans were going to call for him to step down at that stage. Democrats could not for self preservation reasons, because they had spent a lot of political capital protecting and defending Biden’s cognitive decline. Republicans were not going to call for Biden to step down because they wanted to run against Harris as an actual, incumbent sitting President.

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Anonymous wrote:It is really disturbing that Biden was allowed to remain a sitting President after his cognitive decline was exposed in the June debate. The people who immediately took action to remove him (voluntarily or otherwise) as a candidate should have removed him as President too. It proved that they care more about holding onto power than the well being of the country.

The problem was that neither Democrats nor Republicans were going to call for him to step down at that stage. Democrats could not for self preservation reasons, because they had spent a lot of political capital protecting and defending Biden’s cognitive decline. Republicans were not going to call for Biden to step down because they wanted to run against Harris as an actual, incumbent sitting President.

*didn’t want to run against Harris as an incumbent President

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Anonymous wrote:It is really disturbing that Biden was allowed to remain a sitting President after his cognitive decline was exposed in the June debate. The people who immediately took action to remove him (voluntarily or otherwise) as a candidate should have removed him as President too. It proved that they care more about holding onto power than the well being of the country.

The problem was that neither Democrats nor Republicans were going to call for him to step down at that stage. Democrats could not for self preservation reasons, because they had spent a lot of political capital protecting and defending Biden’s cognitive decline. Republicans were not going to call for Biden to step down because they wanted to run against Harris as an actual, incumbent sitting President.

Trump was a very weak and vulnerable incumbent candidate in 2020 so the Dems decided to return the favor in 2024. You can call it complete dysfunction out of our two major parties or call it a Uniparty symptom... whatever it is, it's disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.

But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.

The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.

Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.

Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.

NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.

Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.

Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy

There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.

Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.

I love all of these people trying to dismiss the importance of low literacy rates in electing Trump. If people weren't so poorly educated, they wouldn't be so susceptible to voting against their self interests. Remember Trump said from the onset of his first run that he " loved the uneducated ". We have to own that America is majority stupid.

That’s why he wants to eliminate the Dept of Education. People are in favor of it too because they love bread and circuses.

Canada doesn't have a federal department of education. And yet they consistently have higher academic scores for reading, math, science literacy, etc.

There are many ways of doing things. Interestingly, the same people on this thread who think the US is bombing educationally also believe we should keep doing it the same way, and are outraged by the concept of moving this to the state and locals, where students may be better served than they are under the current structure.

+100000

I'm a liberal democrat but this. I mean things are clearly not working. Not sure how people believe our current govt works effectively? Man, we need overhauling for sure. Like all of it. Not suggesting Trump is the right leader of this effort but at least he's admitting change is needed.

Ask yourself the reason he says it’s trash. Betsy Devos was installed last time to create more private schools to funnel $$ to wealthy. He doesn’t care about American children and anyone who thinks he does is a plain fool. We can decry education all we want but the felon is doing this because he sees $$.

Trump is not a felon.

He is a "Justice Involved Individual".

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Anonymous wrote:Harris wasn't an ideal candidate, but Trump was a far worse candidate than Harris.

But here we are and Trump is going to be President. We Americans are on the whole, incredibly stupid people.

The election was 6 weeks ago, so it’s really time to get over it and consider the future. Calling the American people “stupid” does nothing to advance the ball. Try to get it out of your system, and think about viable candidates for 2028.

Pretty sure it's fair to say the average American voter IQ is much less than it was 20 or 30 years ago considering we've elected Trump, Biden, Trump in the past three elections. Nothing wrong with acknowledging this stupidity and trying to deal with it in advance of 2028 so that another Trump or Biden isn't elected.

Pretty sure you have no data to support your sweeping statement.

NP..check out Gallup. 54% of Americans ages 16-72 have under a sixth grade literacy rate. We've become the stupidest country of the free world.

Please link the Gallup study. My Google search returned the National Literacy Institute. By the way, it also said most of those with below sixth grade level literacy are foreign born, so I'm not sure this is the critique against American intelligence that you think it is.

Link: https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy

There have always been a high percentage of illiterate people in this country yet we've for the most part been able to elect fit, qualified, and worthy presidents up until recently. Being illiterate doesn't necessarily guarantee someone to be clueless and careless when it comes to politics and government.

Stupidity and carelessness are likely reasons why Americans elected Trump and Biden. Illiteracy is less likely to be a primary reason.

I love all of these people trying to dismiss the importance of low literacy rates in electing Trump. If people weren't so poorly educated, they wouldn't be so susceptible to voting against their self interests. Remember Trump said from the onset of his first run that he " loved the uneducated ". We have to own that America is majority stupid.

That’s why he wants to eliminate the Dept of Education. People are in favor of it too because they love bread and circuses.

Yes, American public schools are doing so well under the guidance of that gaggle of idiotic bureaucrats known as the Department of Education. How dare Trump question their value?