NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

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Anonymous wrote:So this whole thread is a bunch of whacky lefty extremists whining about people they perceive as extremists on the other side. Total clown show.


It’s wacky and extremist to reject the blanket argument that women’s primary goal in life is to marry, have kids, and be a homemaker?? Wow.


It is wacky and extremist to tell any members of a religious congregation what they should or should not believe amongst themselves.

He used the word “vocation” which has a very specific, doctrinal meaning within the Catholic Church. Nobody blinked in that audience because they know exactly what he means by that word. My guess is that you are offended because you are hearing that word in secular coding.


I read your post and just feel sorry you’re so confined by regressive ideology. I am wishing you well that you might one day become a more open minded and well rounded person.


I thank you for your well wishes. I’ll pray that someday you may learn tolerance for religious minorities.


Is Catholicism a religious minority?


Only 1/5 of the United States is Catholic. But it’s probably the largest religious group unless you count Christianity as a whole. Catholicism is a type of Christianity.

But the person you’re responding to does not understand Catholicism nor do they understand vocation. Also Jesus teaches that the greatest is not getting married. Get married weak because of lust. That is what the church teaches.

Like Eve biting the apple the previous poster up his blasphemous speech because it’s validating her life choices.


I’m sure most people are capable of understanding what you are referring to by “vocation”, even if they aren’t Christian. These aren’t some super ideas in a club. Just because I’m not Catholic doesn’t mean I can’t get the general gist.

Women get a role to play. Men get a role. Somehow the roles always seem to benefit the men in terms of authority, and in the modern age this could be interpreted as basically oppression, or internalized misogyny if you’re part of it all as a women, but hey who’s counting.

We all “understand” just fine. You’re not part of some super higher calling that is impossible to behold from the outside.


You said that you understood what the word “vocation” means in the Catholic Church. That is exactly exactly what you said…
In no way shape or form is the word vocation ever used in the Catholic Church to refer to being a wife and/or mother.

There is nothing general about the rules of Catholicism. There is no gist. It’s very specific. It’s quite illogical and that’s why you can’t apply logic to it either.

It’s hilarious that you are hearing that word and interpreting it’s as a secular word and then saying someone else is.

It’s also OK that you’re only a wife and or mother and that you could not dedicate your life to serving God, Though Jesus does think that is second fiddle to serving God, even for men.

You’re not Catholic, you don’t understand Catholicism, No you don’t understand that speech was blasphemous, I’m not sure why you’re on this thread.


As a catholic, who went to catholic school, etc, what you are describing sounds nothing like catholicism. It's not legalistic (in fact catholic schools use the Socratic method, the process of discernment is very important, and they have canonized several philosophers as saints).

Vocation is used to describe devoting your life to a purpose and a role. That role can be specific (priest, mother, fisher) or general (care of the poor, as catholic icon Mother Theresa did). Being a homemaker can absolutely be a vocation.

You might have some experience with catholic teaching but it appears to be very limited. If it functioned as you said, it would look like Islam, with lots of clerics to interpret rules. Catholics use a western philosophy approach (Google catholic discernment).


No it’s not. Vocation is not used in the Catholic Church to mean mom and wife.

No thanks with respect to googling my religion. I have the catechism and 50 years of Catholic education. You can take your pseudo Christianity and teach whatever BS you want to your “flock” but this speech was blasphemous in the context of Catholic teachings,


Well, it would seem you should update your studies. The Church has always thought about marriage as a vocation. Vatican II makes that clear. In the past 30 years or so church leadership has put more emphasis on the topic.

“ The church teaches that marriage is an authentic vocation or divine call. As a vocation, marriage is just as necessary and valuable to the church as other vocations.”

USCCB Letter in 2009.

“ Marriage isn’t just a ‘social’ act’. It’s a vocation that’s born from the heart, a conscious decision for the rest of one’s life that requires specific preparation.”

-Pope Francis

“ Marriage, as a vocation, calls you to steer a tiny boat – wave-tossed yet sturdy, thanks to the reality of the sacrament – across a sometimes stormy sea.”

-Pope Francis

“…God himself is the author of marriage."87 The vocation to marriage is written in the very nature of man and woman as they came from the hand of the Creator. Marriage is not a purely human institution despite the many variations it may have undergone through the centuries in different cultures, social structures, and spiritual attitudes.”

Paragraph 1603 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church

“Thus, a person's life decision for marriage and the family is a response to a personal call from God. It is a genuine vocation, which includes a mission.”

St. John Paul II (speaking as Pope).




Ironic, no? That an organization that doesn't allow their leaders to marry is telling their flock that marriage is a higher calling.


No. The point is that marriage is a co-equal vocation to religious life and Holy Orders.
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I love the deliberately obtuse postures, like this guy isn't part of a well financed push to force backwards values on America. The receipts are everywhere.

https://x.com/stayscathed/status/1791931567264465342


Also the amount of red flags in this interview with his wife are glaring.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-catholic-part-i-a-courtship-turned/id1524085821?i=1000555867041
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Anonymous wrote:I love the deliberately obtuse postures, like this guy isn't part of a well financed push to force backwards values on America. The receipts are everywhere.

https://x.com/stayscathed/status/1791931567264465342


Also the amount of red flags in this interview with his wife are glaring.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-catholic-part-i-a-courtship-turned/id1524085821?i=1000555867041


Anonymous
Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en




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Anonymous wrote:So this whole thread is a bunch of whacky lefty extremists whining about people they perceive as extremists on the other side. Total clown show.


It’s wacky and extremist to reject the blanket argument that women’s primary goal in life is to marry, have kids, and be a homemaker?? Wow.


It is wacky and extremist to tell any members of a religious congregation what they should or should not believe amongst themselves.

He used the word “vocation” which has a very specific, doctrinal meaning within the Catholic Church. Nobody blinked in that audience because they know exactly what he means by that word. My guess is that you are offended because you are hearing that word in secular coding.


I read your post and just feel sorry you’re so confined by regressive ideology. I am wishing you well that you might one day become a more open minded and well rounded person.


I thank you for your well wishes. I’ll pray that someday you may learn tolerance for religious minorities.


Is Catholicism a religious minority?


Only 1/5 of the United States is Catholic. But it’s probably the largest religious group unless you count Christianity as a whole. Catholicism is a type of Christianity.

But the person you’re responding to does not understand Catholicism nor do they understand vocation. Also Jesus teaches that the greatest is not getting married. Get married weak because of lust. That is what the church teaches.

Like Eve biting the apple the previous poster up his blasphemous speech because it’s validating her life choices.


I’m sure most people are capable of understanding what you are referring to by “vocation”, even if they aren’t Christian. These aren’t some super ideas in a club. Just because I’m not Catholic doesn’t mean I can’t get the general gist.

Women get a role to play. Men get a role. Somehow the roles always seem to benefit the men in terms of authority, and in the modern age this could be interpreted as basically oppression, or internalized misogyny if you’re part of it all as a women, but hey who’s counting.

We all “understand” just fine. You’re not part of some super higher calling that is impossible to behold from the outside.


You said that you understood what the word “vocation” means in the Catholic Church. That is exactly exactly what you said…
In no way shape or form is the word vocation ever used in the Catholic Church to refer to being a wife and/or mother.

There is nothing general about the rules of Catholicism. There is no gist. It’s very specific. It’s quite illogical and that’s why you can’t apply logic to it either.

It’s hilarious that you are hearing that word and interpreting it’s as a secular word and then saying someone else is.

It’s also OK that you’re only a wife and or mother and that you could not dedicate your life to serving God, Though Jesus does think that is second fiddle to serving God, even for men.

You’re not Catholic, you don’t understand Catholicism, No you don’t understand that speech was blasphemous, I’m not sure why you’re on this thread.


As a catholic, who went to catholic school, etc, what you are describing sounds nothing like catholicism. It's not legalistic (in fact catholic schools use the Socratic method, the process of discernment is very important, and they have canonized several philosophers as saints).

Vocation is used to describe devoting your life to a purpose and a role. That role can be specific (priest, mother, fisher) or general (care of the poor, as catholic icon Mother Theresa did). Being a homemaker can absolutely be a vocation.

You might have some experience with catholic teaching but it appears to be very limited. If it functioned as you said, it would look like Islam, with lots of clerics to interpret rules. Catholics use a western philosophy approach (Google catholic discernment).


No it’s not. Vocation is not used in the Catholic Church to mean mom and wife.

No thanks with respect to googling my religion. I have the catechism and 50 years of Catholic education. You can take your pseudo Christianity and teach whatever BS you want to your “flock” but this speech was blasphemous in the context of Catholic teachings,


Well, it would seem you should update your studies. The Church has always thought about marriage as a vocation. Vatican II makes that clear. In the past 30 years or so church leadership has put more emphasis on the topic.

“ The church teaches that marriage is an authentic vocation or divine call. As a vocation, marriage is just as necessary and valuable to the church as other vocations.”

USCCB Letter in 2009.

“ Marriage isn’t just a ‘social’ act’. It’s a vocation that’s born from the heart, a conscious decision for the rest of one’s life that requires specific preparation.”

-Pope Francis

“ Marriage, as a vocation, calls you to steer a tiny boat – wave-tossed yet sturdy, thanks to the reality of the sacrament – across a sometimes stormy sea.”

-Pope Francis

“…God himself is the author of marriage."87 The vocation to marriage is written in the very nature of man and woman as they came from the hand of the Creator. Marriage is not a purely human institution despite the many variations it may have undergone through the centuries in different cultures, social structures, and spiritual attitudes.”

Paragraph 1603 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church

“Thus, a person's life decision for marriage and the family is a response to a personal call from God. It is a genuine vocation, which includes a mission.”

St. John Paul II (speaking as Pope).




Ironic, no? That an organization that doesn't allow their leaders to marry is telling their flock that marriage is a higher calling.


No. The point is that marriage is a co-equal vocation to religious life and Holy Orders.


No. It isn’t. That was never stated in any Catholic teachings. The highest calling is to serve God. Jesus said ever marry if you can’t overcome lust. If you cant overcome lust then marriage is the only way to live a lustful life.

Its also said in the cherry picked catechism above… The woman, "flesh of his flesh," his equal

WOMEN are equal, there is no rule for women and different rule for man.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the deliberately obtuse postures, like this guy isn't part of a well financed push to force backwards values on America. The receipts are everywhere.

https://x.com/stayscathed/status/1791931567264465342


Also the amount of red flags in this interview with his wife are glaring.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-catholic-part-i-a-courtship-turned/id1524085821?i=1000555867041




These people are so dangerous to the Catholic religion and the United States of America.

People or hands have been trying to Bogart the Catholic religion and turn it into a cult.

Its up to us real Catholics to protect our religion from these people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en



LOL. Yes, it all makes sense now! It wasn't until I saw him strutting in his fashionable outfits and sitting with his ultra-masculine pal Josh Hawley that things came into focus. He definitely "pings," as my gay friends like to say.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en



LOL. Yes, it all makes sense now! It wasn't until I saw him strutting in his fashionable outfits and sitting with his ultra-masculine pal Josh Hawley that things came into focus. He definitely "pings," as my gay friends like to say.


His instagram handle is “Buttkicker”? Oh dear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the deliberately obtuse postures, like this guy isn't part of a well financed push to force backwards values on America. The receipts are everywhere.

https://x.com/stayscathed/status/1791931567264465342


Also the amount of red flags in this interview with his wife are glaring.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/becoming-catholic-part-i-a-courtship-turned/id1524085821?i=1000555867041




Sadly. I’m not surprised to learn he’s a shill for Project 2025.

No wonder MAGA is defending him so passionately.
Anonymous
Well his jersey is the number one selling jersey, so it means people don’t care about woke BS and support family values.

The city of KC doxxed him and no charges are being filed against the people who did and they’re getting fired at the very least.

Most men and married people are supporting what he said and we no issues.

So I hope he stays kicking in the NFL for a long time, but with a team in a city who won’t try to have him harmed.

Oh and this supposed mass exodus of women who are going to not watch the NFL now…ok…no women were anyways
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en



LOL. Yes, it all makes sense now! It wasn't until I saw him strutting in his fashionable outfits and sitting with his ultra-masculine pal Josh Hawley that things came into focus. He definitely "pings," as my gay friends like to say.


lol…ok…

I’m sure you gay friends as you say are huge NFL fans too.

Go ahead and keep It up, his jersey will just keep selling out and the more angry the moonbats get the more popular he becomes.

What regular people are laughing it is the wokesters trying to ban him yet say nothing about the guys who sexually assault women who play.

It shows the moonbats have no moral standing
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anything seem off here?

Harrison Butker and Isabelle Butker.


https://www.instagram.com/buttkicker7/?hl=en



LOL. Yes, it all makes sense now! It wasn't until I saw him strutting in his fashionable outfits and sitting with his ultra-masculine pal Josh Hawley that things came into focus. He definitely "pings," as my gay friends like to say.


lol…ok…

I’m sure you gay friends as you say are huge NFL fans too.

Go ahead and keep It up, his jersey will just keep selling out and the more angry the moonbats get the more popular he becomes.

What regular people are laughing it is the wokesters trying to ban him yet say nothing about the guys who sexually assault women who play.

It shows the moonbats have no moral standing


Pretty sure if he sexually assaulted anyone, it wasn't a woman.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well his jersey is the number one selling jersey, so it means people don’t care about woke BS and support family values.

The city of KC doxxed him and no charges are being filed against the people who did and they’re getting fired at the very least.

Most men and married people are supporting what he said and we no issues.

So I hope he stays kicking in the NFL for a long time, but with a team in a city who won’t try to have him harmed.

Oh and this supposed mass exodus of women who are going to not watch the NFL now…ok…no women were anyways


Really? "Most women and married people are supporting what he said"? Where is that? I'm pretty sure you don't speak for "most women and married people."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well his jersey is the number one selling jersey, so it means people don’t care about woke BS and support family values.

The city of KC doxxed him and no charges are being filed against the people who did and they’re getting fired at the very least.

Most men and married people are supporting what he said and we no issues.

So I hope he stays kicking in the NFL for a long time, but with a team in a city who won’t try to have him harmed.

Oh and this supposed mass exodus of women who are going to not watch the NFL now…ok…no women were anyways


+1. Just ordered his jersey which I plan to wear around NW DC. And I’m not even a Chiefs fan.
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