Replicating ATS success — what are exact differences

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

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Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

Ok, I lied, I’m personally aware of Regis in NYC but that isn’t public so doesn’t count. Truly mixed income public schools with lots of rich people. Name them. Go.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

Ok, I lied, I’m personally aware of Regis in NYC but that isn’t public so doesn’t count. Truly mixed income public schools with lots of rich people. Name them. Go.

I don’t know what you consider rich but WL is around 1/3 free and reduced lunch and people like that school…

Science Focus will potentially reach 25ish in the next couple of years. To be completely honest, I have no idea if people like that school post-Covid though.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

Ok, I lied, I’m personally aware of Regis in NYC but that isn’t public so doesn’t count. Truly mixed income public schools with lots of rich people. Name them. Go. [/quote

Why doesn’t ATS meet your criteria? It is mixed income. It does attract north Arlington families and also south Arlington families who could afford private. And it attracts low income families.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

There are a lot of assumptions in here, mainly that bussing kids all over the place actually improves outcomes. But there are mixed income schools - any of those that serve Westover, Ballston, and pretty much any neighborhood south of 50 will serve families that can afford to buy in today, those that could afford to buy in 15 years ago, and those that are living there by subsidies.

Just because they are not overwhelmingly poor as measured by FRL percentages doesn’t mean they aren’t “mixed income”. There’s quite a difference between a family of 4 making $50k and a family of 4 making $150k or $250k or $400k+.

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What are the neighborhood schools in North Arlington? And for someone that just moved to Arlington- what neighborhoods are considered rich here?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

There are a lot of assumptions in here, mainly that bussing kids all over the place actually improves outcomes. But there are mixed income schools - any of those that serve Westover, Ballston, and pretty much any neighborhood south of 50 will serve families that can afford to buy in today, those that could afford to buy in 15 years ago, and those that are living there by subsidies.

Just because they are not overwhelmingly poor as measured by FRL percentages doesn’t mean they aren’t “mixed income”. There’s quite a difference between a family of 4 making $50k and a family of 4 making $150k or $250k or $400k+.

Oakridge is definitely mixed income.

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Anonymous wrote:So I’m looking for a concrete plan to take to our principal.

1) direct instruction. Where is the inquiry instruction policy set by APS?

2) homework

3) tucked in shirts

4) high academic expectations? So I ask them why they currently have low expectations?

5) disciple expectations? See above?

Any more?

Parental value systems are similar (all support traditional education and don't view school as simply daycare or a path to a sports career in college)

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

There are a lot of assumptions in here, mainly that bussing kids all over the place actually improves outcomes. But there are mixed income schools - any of those that serve Westover, Ballston, and pretty much any neighborhood south of 50 will serve families that can afford to buy in today, those that could afford to buy in 15 years ago, and those that are living there by subsidies.

Just because they are not overwhelmingly poor as measured by FRL percentages doesn’t mean they aren’t “mixed income”. There’s quite a difference between a family of 4 making $50k and a family of 4 making $150k or $250k or $400k+.

Oakridge is definitely mixed income.

Yes. ATS is also very much mixed income. It has a significant level of low income but also families that can afford private and everything in between.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the neighborhood schools in North Arlington? And for someone that just moved to Arlington- what neighborhoods are considered rich here?

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Anonymous wrote:ATS should mandate 2/3rds of slots for lower socioeconomic and minority students, similar to how Montessori does their prek. I have no problem with ATS existing or being a home for attentive parents. But it should favor disadvantaged every step of the way. And, please don't tell me its FRL rate is similar or better than other schools, that is truly irrelevant. Its FRL needs to be twice the worst neighborhood school, and its student demographics needs to flip the stats of U.S. public. Then you know it's really serving those who need it in our society.

This is an interesting comment, but I think that APS just needs to offer more schools that use the ATS model. This is a public school district. It’s unfair to offer a product like ATS- the literal best public elementary school in Virginia- when it benefits so few of the taxpaying population. I would be fine with them setting aside percentage for students receiving FRL, but there’s no getting around the fact that we need more ATS slots for everyone.

All of the options are built and supported by the fact that there is demand for 125%, maybe 175%, of capacity, but no more. As a public system, you don't want to build an option building that then depends on you struggling to fill it every year. As others have noted here, there are huge swaths of APS system that do NOT want rigid ATS for their kids. And if your answer is,fine, don't build buildings, just implement inside current schoools, then I strongly suggest you look into the lessons learned from the failures of "schools win schools" in APS. Long story short, nothing makes a local school more like a civil war battleground than when you ty to divide up its classrooms between very different pedagogies. See Montessori experience at Drew.

But demand for ATS is almost 200% of current capacity. Way more than demand for other options.

This is a fact. look at the waitlists. You could fill a second APS and I think you could fill quite a few more HBs. That said, why is HB such a short school if it was a new build? Why didn't APS maximize that space. Wait, I know why. WE HAVE A HORRIBLE SCHOOL BOARD AND THEY ALL MUST GO.

Its true that part of the reason HB works is because all the adults know all the kids, and the kids know that they have a lot of freedom but at the same time have to act to a reasonable standard. It wouldn't work with twice as many kids, or if there were tons of kids there that didn't really want to be there. Not every teacher wants to be in a school where the students can wander around freely and address them directly, and not every teenager can handle being in a building where they can wander around freely and address adults directly--especially if they haven't been given increasing amounts of independence and responsibility all along, and seen it modeled from all of their older peers.

I had kids at both Gunston and HB and I can tell you -- you can't just take parts of the HB model and plunk it down somewhere else, or double it in size. I assume the same is true with ATS. Or at least, you won't automatically get the same results. Not to say there aren't aspects that could be replicated other places, or lessons to be learned, it's just not something you can easily do 1:1.

100 agree with this take on HB. I also have a kid at HB and one in a different APS MS. You just can't replicate the HB model in a much larger school. Whatever - it's a moot point - the site in Rosslyn can't handle trailers.

I am definitely in favor of more programs of a smaller size though since parents seem to want that.

And the rest of us would like to deal in reality. If a program like HB only works because it's small, then we should have gotten rid of it and put a bigger choice school on the Wilson site. A 7-12 program for 1300 kids would still be a lot smaller than the current MS and HS programs, and for kids who are satisfied with team sports limited to frisbee, it would be a godsend.

I'm not interested in replicating ATS until someone shows that it has benefits that last past 5th grade. If you want to define success as high SOLs in 5th, you're free to do so, and good luck getting into a school that will deliver. But the rest of us want something with bigger benefits.

They considered that and the cost of building than 6 stories were not just incrementally higher, they were geometrically higher. (That's universal--it's why you see so many apartment buildings that height, too.)

I'm not sure where you're getting that. Community presentations showed that the least expensive way to get 1300 more seats was to build them on Wilson. But 22207 parents and HB parents created a unified whine that stopped the SB from doing so

Sure, because 1300 families didn't want to send their kids to a neighborhood school in downtown Rosslyn with no fields, no outdoor space, and no parking. That is not a crazy position. And the Heights building technically could hold more kids than it does if it had all traditional classrooms, but there are only 25 kids on the 2 floors used by the Shriver program.

Can anyone clarify, if Shriver truly occupies two entire floors at the Heights? And only for 25 students?!

Sort of--the floors are different sizes in that building, and there are some joint-use facilities in the building for both programs (gym, cafeteria, etc). The Shriver program would take up a lot of space no matter where it is located. There are several small APS programs that take up a good amount of space relative to enrollment. They all serve important populations and are worth the money, compared to the cost of educating those kids in other settings or losing those kids from the system (to drugs, jail, motherhood, etc.).

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Just in case people don't know what the Shriver program is and why it takes up space, it's for daily living skills for middle school and high school kids iwth autism:
Shriver Program is a secondary school for Arlington Public School students who have special needs. The program is located in Arlington, Virginia. Students attend middle and high school life skills classes as well as classes for students with autism.

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Anonymous wrote:Just in case people don't know what the Shriver program is and why it takes up space, it's for daily living skills for middle school and high school kids iwth autism:
Shriver Program is a secondary school for Arlington Public School students who have special needs. The program is located in Arlington, Virginia. Students attend middle and high school life skills classes as well as classes for students with autism.

I haven’t been recently posting on this thread, but I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing this info. I hope it’s large and resources enough to serve all the students who could benefit from attending.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no?

People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)

+1

Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not.

Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.

As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.”

True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.

The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster.

OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools.

This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist.

There are a lot of assumptions in here, mainly that bussing kids all over the place actually improves outcomes. But there are mixed income schools - any of those that serve Westover, Ballston, and pretty much any neighborhood south of 50 will serve families that can afford to buy in today, those that could afford to buy in 15 years ago, and those that are living there by subsidies.

Just because they are not overwhelmingly poor as measured by FRL percentages doesn’t mean they aren’t “mixed income”. There’s quite a difference between a family of 4 making $50k and a family of 4 making $150k or $250k or $400k+.

Oakridge is definitely mixed income.

Yes. ATS is also very much mixed income. It has a significant level of low income but also families that can afford private and everything in between.

I would describe Key as mixed income. Quite a few APS schools are, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Just in case people don't know what the Shriver program is and why it takes up space, it's for daily living skills for middle school and high school kids iwth autism:
Shriver Program is a secondary school for Arlington Public School students who have special needs. The program is located in Arlington, Virginia. Students attend middle and high school life skills classes as well as classes for students with autism.

I haven’t been recently posting on this thread, but I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing this info. I hope it’s large and resources enough to serve all the students who could benefit from attending.

Its not a program for kids with autism, although some also have autism. Its a program for kids with significant disabilities who, in many other school systems, would have an out-of-system placement.