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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, it’s the whole point of this thread, no? People want diverse schools, but don’t want to sacrifice academic achievement. It isn’t about keeping one’s kids from “the poors.” (Otherwise, people would avoid ATS too!)[/quote] +1[/quote] Almost every single N Arlington family does avoid ATS. They don’t enter the lottery. There’s a handful that do and of course I’m sure they want what you describe but you are dead wrong to think that most pope want to be in a mixed income school. Rich people do not. [/quote] Well, we have a high HHI and definitely applied. I can see the benefits of attending the neighborhood school though.[/quote] As I said, you exist! But numbers wise, you prove my point. How many people apply from N Arlington schools and how many do not? You are a tiny tiny portion of this world. I’m only pointing out that the fact that a handful of people applying to ATS from N Arlington each year does not in fact prove that “we want ATS-like mixed income schools.” [/quote] True. It merely shows that you don't "need" ATS because your schools are already high-performing overall and your UMC kids are not negatively impacted or impeded by their school's need to focus on large portions of the student body requiring extra supports and attention.[/quote] The “mixed income” part isn’t the magic sauce, though - it’s the high level of parental engagement. It’s probably the single largest factor in a child’s success. I guess we could pick off all of the highly engaged students and bus them all over north Arlington, but I’m not sure it helps those left behind. Bussing the less engaged students would be a complete disaster. [/quote] OK, but that's not the point that was being made. The point is, there aren't as many NA putting in for the lottery because they're satisfied with their high-performing neighborhood schools. [/quote] This group drives me nuts. The poster said: people want mixed income schools, see the waitlist for ATS. That was the poster’s point. My point was: ATS’ waitlist is absolutely no proof that families want mixed income schools. N Arlington families are not applying in droves to the ATS. And if you ask them to bus their kids to mixed income schools, they balk. And people who are rich also don’t want mixed incomes housing. Pls find me examples to disprove me. Examples of truly mixed income schools. They do not exist. [/quote] There are a lot of assumptions in here, mainly that bussing kids all over the place actually improves outcomes. But there are mixed income schools - any of those that serve Westover, Ballston, and pretty much any neighborhood south of 50 will serve families that can afford to buy in today, those that could afford to buy in 15 years ago, and those that are living there by subsidies. Just because they are not overwhelmingly poor as measured by FRL percentages doesn’t mean they aren’t “mixed income”. There’s quite a difference between a family of 4 making $50k and a family of 4 making $150k or $250k or $400k+. [/quote] Oakridge is definitely mixed income.[/quote] Yes. ATS is also very much mixed income. It has a significant level of low income but also families that can afford private and everything in between. [/quote] I would describe Key as mixed income. Quite a few APS schools are, actually. [/quote]
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