Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.

She thought she had possession of the bike because she was sitting on it.

Somehow he scanned the QR code and unlocked the bike when she was sitting on it.

Once she realized what he had done she got off the bike.

He was in the wrong by snaking the bike, and she backed down.

Yeah, she acted totally rationally. And THAT is why we are all talking about it.

Yes, that’s right. People are flipping out because she wasn’t a graceful victim. We do this all the time. You have to act JUST RIGHT as a victim or they will eat you alive.

My god this! And to all the people saying she should have walked away from the start - eff that noise. You don’t give in to the bully. It just emboldens them. You call that sh¡t out EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And they are. They called her bullsh*t and since she’s spent a lifetime bullying others she’s shocked at being confronted. She’s having the day she deserves.

You just made up a fact (she spent a life time bullying others - where the eff did you get that from?) and used it to support your argument. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.

She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.

Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.

This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.

I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.

Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.

I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.

Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.

She thought she had possession of the bike because she was sitting on it.

Somehow he scanned the QR code and unlocked the bike when she was sitting on it.

Once she realized what he had done she got off the bike.

He was in the wrong by snaking the bike, and she backed down.

Yeah, she acted totally rationally. And THAT is why we are all talking about it.

Yes, that’s right. People are flipping out because she wasn’t a graceful victim. We do this all the time. You have to act JUST RIGHT as a victim or they will eat you alive.

My god this! And to all the people saying she should have walked away from the start - eff that noise. You don’t give in to the bully. It just emboldens them. You call that sh¡t out EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And they are. They called her bullsh*t and since she’s spent a lifetime bullying others she’s shocked at being confronted. She’s having the day she deserves.

You just made up a fact (she spent a life time bullying others - where the eff did you get that from?) and used it to support your argument. Nice.

You don’t just wake up and start bullying. She’s had practice.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the opening shot of the video. It shows her straddling the bike while he reaches in front of her, covering the reader with his hand. Her hand is on the handlebar and the cross bar is between her legs. He is beside the bike and the only hand on the bike is the one covering the reader:



At about the 15 second mark, the person with the camera moves in closer and is focused only on her, as she removes her ID card and calls help a couple times, but in the corner of the screen you can see the man who is covering the QR reader move his hand. At that point you hear the chunk and then the chime of the bike being unlocked. That's when he unlocks the bike.

It is not until the :54 second mark when the coworker approaches that the man says "this is my bike, it's on my account." That's because it was previously not on his account, and it's only when a new person arrives that he can claim it's on his account. He doesn't say this to the woman on the bike because she knows first that he has not yet scanned it, and later that he scanned it when she was on it.

Throughout the video, even the guys friends are not entirely on his side (except the guy videoing, he's always in the tank for the guy trying to take the bike). There's a guy in a pink sweatshirt who repeatedly suggests they should just let her have the bike. Not steal it, but have it.

He took the bike from her.

Regarding the crying. There is a split second where she puts her head in her right hand and kind of cries out in frustration. The guy with the phone immediately says "why are you fake crying." She isn't fake crying. She is frustrated. She is actually calm throughout the video, saying, relatively quietly "get off me." She does call out for help a few times but she never says anyone is hurting her and does not accuse these guys of anything, even though she could say "this guys I trying to take this bike from me" and it would be accurate because he is. She doesn't fake cry. It's just the guy narrating the video calls her facial expression "fake crying" and later claims she magically stopped crying (she never started crying, that's why there are no tears).

You are all falling victim to a very sketch reframing of events by this guy. She didn't steal the bike. She didn't fake cry. She didn't weaponize tears. She didn't weaponize her pregnancy. She tried to rent a bike and that guy prevented her from doing so, rented the bike she was sitting on, and made her move.

Rewatching the video, I think this is exactly what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.

She thought she had possession of the bike because she was sitting on it.

Somehow he scanned the QR code and unlocked the bike when she was sitting on it.

Once she realized what he had done she got off the bike.

He was in the wrong by snaking the bike, and she backed down.

Yeah, she acted totally rationally. And THAT is why we are all talking about it.

Yes, that’s right. People are flipping out because she wasn’t a graceful victim. We do this all the time. You have to act JUST RIGHT as a victim or they will eat you alive.

My god this! And to all the people saying she should have walked away from the start - eff that noise. You don’t give in to the bully. It just emboldens them. You call that sh¡t out EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And they are. They called her bullsh*t and since she’s spent a lifetime bullying others she’s shocked at being confronted. She’s having the day she deserves.

You just made up a fact (she spent a life time bullying others - where the eff did you get that from?) and used it to support your argument. Nice.

You don’t just wake up and start bullying. She’s had practice.

Here’s another problem with your made up fact - she doesn’t look like the bully (to me, at least).

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.

She thought she had possession of the bike because she was sitting on it.

Somehow he scanned the QR code and unlocked the bike when she was sitting on it.

Once she realized what he had done she got off the bike.

He was in the wrong by snaking the bike, and she backed down.

Yeah, she acted totally rationally. And THAT is why we are all talking about it.

Yes, that’s right. People are flipping out because she wasn’t a graceful victim. We do this all the time. You have to act JUST RIGHT as a victim or they will eat you alive.

My god this! And to all the people saying she should have walked away from the start - eff that noise. You don’t give in to the bully. It just emboldens them. You call that sh¡t out EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And they are. They called her bullsh*t and since she’s spent a lifetime bullying others she’s shocked at being confronted. She’s having the day she deserves.

You just made up a fact (she spent a life time bullying others - where the eff did you get that from?) and used it to support your argument. Nice.

You don’t just wake up and start bullying. She’s had practice.

Here’s another problem with your made up fact - she doesn’t look like the bully (to me, at least).

She looks like an alcoholic to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.

Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.

This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.

I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.

Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.

I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.

Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.

I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.

She thought she had possession of the bike because she was sitting on it.

Somehow he scanned the QR code and unlocked the bike when she was sitting on it.

Once she realized what he had done she got off the bike.

He was in the wrong by snaking the bike, and she backed down.

Yeah, she acted totally rationally. And THAT is why we are all talking about it.

Yes, that’s right. People are flipping out because she wasn’t a graceful victim. We do this all the time. You have to act JUST RIGHT as a victim or they will eat you alive.

My god this! And to all the people saying she should have walked away from the start - eff that noise. You don’t give in to the bully. It just emboldens them. You call that sh¡t out EVERY SINGLE TIME.

And they are. They called her bullsh*t and since she’s spent a lifetime bullying others she’s shocked at being confronted. She’s having the day she deserves.

You just made up a fact (she spent a life time bullying others - where the eff did you get that from?) and used it to support your argument. Nice.

You don’t just wake up and start bullying. She’s had practice.

Here’s another problem with your made up fact - she doesn’t look like the bully (to me, at least).

She looks like a bully to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.

She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.

I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.

She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.

I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.

I guess you didn’t read 13:28

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Pp here again. I just want to clarify that you said she “tried to grab his phone.” She straight up snatched it from his hand, and held it away from him.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.

Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.

This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.

I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.

Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.

I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.

Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.

I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.

Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.

She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.

I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.

I guess you didn’t read 13:28

I read it. What’s your point? I saw the video several time. I’ve been following this thread. I don’t need the play by play.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.

She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.

I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.

You’re not being gaslit. You’re so convinced of your “white woman tears” interpretation that you cannot be objective.