Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


You think YOU are being gaslit? Watch the video. You don't have to "play along" with anything.

She is only touching him because she is on the bike and he is reaching across her to cover the reader and then scan it with his phone. She is touching him because he is reaching across her and trying to intimidate her off the bike.

I don't understand why you are so invested in a made up narrative. Like no one has to make up a narrative about the Central Park birder incident or the BBQ Becky incident or those videos of crazy anti-masker ripping up Walmarts when asked to put on a mask. Because it's very clear what is happening and watching the video makes it clear to people.

But with this, watching the video is immediately confusing. I saw this video posted on twitter with a caption like "watch her use fake tears to try and get these guys shot." and then I watched the video and was just confused. Because that's not what happened? At all? Like even a little? Other captions were like "she steals his bike and then cries for help omg" (that's the title of this thread!). But she doesn't steal "his" bike. It is initially no ones bike and they are having a dispute over it. Then he rents it while she's sitting on it. She calls for help because he's covering the reader on the bike and won't let her rent it.

Like, you think I'm gaslighting you, but I'm watching the actual video and describing the things happening in the video, and you are just parroting a narrative of stuff that didn't happen.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I guess you didn’t read 13:28


I read it. What’s your point? I saw the video several time. I’ve been following this thread. I don’t need the play by play.


My point is there is a reason she snatches his phone - so he couldn’t scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. While she shouldn’t have done that, he shouldn’t have been trying to scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. This boy is NOT a victim. They both messed up.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?


Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?


Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.


Actually I work in a residential mental health facility. I am very familiar with different behaviors.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I agree with all of this. But at the end of the day, they lied about her. She wasn’t trying to steal. They tried to snake her bike.

Why did they lie?!
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I guess you didn’t read 13:28


I read it. What’s your point? I saw the video several time. I’ve been following this thread. I don’t need the play by play.


My point is there is a reason she snatches his phone - so he couldn’t scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. While she shouldn’t have done that, he shouldn’t have been trying to scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. This boy is NOT a victim. They both messed up.


I have never rented a bike, so I don’t know the logistics. If she had already rented it, what could he have done by scanning the QR code?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?


Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.


Actually I work in a residential mental health facility. I am very familiar with different behaviors.


You don’t seem to be familiar if you think this woman is acting normal.
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Some of you (and a bunch of people on twitter, and a bunch of local news reporters looking to score points) are trying to ruin this woman's life.

I don't want any black people getting shot or arrested, but I also don't think a situation where a white woman can have her entire reputation destroyed online because she did not choose to immediately back away quietly when someone tried to take a bike she was sitting on is great.

This woman is NOT the enemy, didn't do anything wrong, and pursuing her like a mob with pitchforks is not going to fix anything about society. It's just going to make people anger, more distrusting, more defensive, etc.

This woman didn't do anything wrong beyond being kind of pissy on camera when someone tried to take a bike from her after her hospital shift.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I agree with all of this. But at the end of the day, they lied about her. She wasn’t trying to steal. They tried to snake her bike.

Why did they lie?!


This. It's very clear that he rents the bike after she is already sitting on it. She didn't try to steal it.

So why did this video ever even wind up on the internet? The guy who took it knows what actually happened, and is perpetuating a narrative that she "stole" the bike from him.

The posted this video knowing it would go viral and that she would be attacked. She's been doxed, she's on leave from work, and a bunch of people online are calling her a racist and a thief.

It's very troubling. This could happen to anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I guess you didn’t read 13:28


I read it. What’s your point? I saw the video several time. I’ve been following this thread. I don’t need the play by play.


My point is there is a reason she snatches his phone - so he couldn’t scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. While she shouldn’t have done that, he shouldn’t have been trying to scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. This boy is NOT a victim. They both messed up.


I have never rented a bike, so I don’t know the logistics. If she had already rented it, what could he have done by scanning the QR code?


I don’t think she had already rented it. I think she sat on it and was about to rent it when he covered up the code because he wanted to rent it.

Give it a few days. The truth will come out.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?


Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.


Actually I work in a residential mental health facility. I am very familiar with different behaviors.


You don’t seem to be familiar if you think this woman is acting normal.


She is acting normal for someone who is having a bike taken out from under them. Her reaction is normal if you understand she was trying to rent the bike and the guy won't let her and then rents it instead.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?


Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.


Actually I work in a residential mental health facility. I am very familiar with different behaviors.


You don’t seem to be familiar if you think this woman is acting normal.


Is her behavior exemplary? No. Is she exhibiting signs of mental illness? Also no.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I guess you didn’t read 13:28


I read it. What’s your point? I saw the video several time. I’ve been following this thread. I don’t need the play by play.


My point is there is a reason she snatches his phone - so he couldn’t scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. While she shouldn’t have done that, he shouldn’t have been trying to scan the bike SHE WAS ALREADY ON. This boy is NOT a victim. They both messed up.


I have never rented a bike, so I don’t know the logistics. If she had already rented it, what could he have done by scanning the QR code?


I don’t think she had already rented it. I think she sat on it and was about to rent it when he covered up the code because he wanted to rent it.

Give it a few days. The truth will come out.


I hope so. Honestly one of the reasons I'm position in this thread (I'm the one who posted the screen grab and explanation of the sequence of events that clearly show she is not stealing the bike and that her behavior makes sense in context) is that I think there should be an online record of people defending her. If she winds up fired over this, it would be a huge injustice.
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Anonymous wrote:Not aggressive? She wouldn’t stop touching him, and snatched his phone away from him.


She snatches his phone to prevent him from using it to scan the bike, because she is on the bike. She doesn't just randomly try to steal his phone. He is in the process of taking the bike away from her and won't let her access the QR reader, so she grabs for his phone because it's the only other way to prevent him from scanning the bike.

Not saying it's okay that she tried to grab his phone (I personally wouldn't do that) but in context it matters.

Also, she is only touching him because he's invading her space. She's on the bike and he has placed himself right next to her and is physically blocking her from the QR reader. She's touching him because she is trying to get him to move back away from the bike. He isn't actually entitled to that space, but he's taking it anyway.


I feel like I’m being gaslit.

She snatched his phone. There’s no excuse for that.

She would not stop touching him, even when it was obviously unnecessary.

She faked tears with shaking, and turned it off as soon as it was obvious it wasn’t working.

You are certainly welcome to make excuses for all of that behavior, but I’m not playing along with it.


I agree with all of this. But at the end of the day, they lied about her. She wasn’t trying to steal. They tried to snake her bike.

Why did they lie?!


This. It's very clear that he rents the bike after she is already sitting on it. She didn't try to steal it.

So why did this video ever even wind up on the internet? The guy who took it knows what actually happened, and is perpetuating a narrative that she "stole" the bike from him.

The posted this video knowing it would go viral and that she would be attacked. She's been doxed, she's on leave from work, and a bunch of people online are calling her a racist and a thief.

It's very troubling. This could happen to anyone.

This looks like a pretty clear example of a group of guys bullying a woman. I can't imagine these guys would have had the balls to try something like this if it was a large dude sitting on the bike.
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Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?


Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.


Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.


Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.


They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.


Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.


The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.


Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.


This. People are confused. You can't reserve or unlock a bike unless you are right next to it. The bike is locked at the beginning of the video, it is unlocked during the video. We clearly see him covering the screen so she can't unlock it, even though she is straddling the bike and therefore has a better claim to the bike.

She does not steal a bike he paid for. He pays for a bike she is already on, and prevents her from paying for it herself.


I agree except I can see a scenario where I’m standing next to a bike getting ready to unlock it, and someone slides in an sits on it. But we have no evidence about whether that’s what happened because the video doesn’t show it. Even if she did slide in, he was in the wrong to physically try to continue to rent the bike (reaching over her, covering up the QR code.) She is the one who backs down and ends the confrontation.


Exactly. I said upthread that I don't understand how she came to be straddling the bike and holding he handlebars if he was in the process of renting it. If she actually came and slid into to sit on the bike, that would be REALLY egregious behavior on her part and I'd be fully on their side. But they don't say that's what she did. They just keep asserting it's "his" bike.

If it turns out she literally sat on the bike while he was trying to unlock it, I'll eat my words. But based on the video we see, all I see is him preventing her from scanning the bike out, then scanning it himself, then claiming it's his bike, and then her getting off it. You can criticize her demeanor if you want but I don't even think it's relevant -- she doesn't do anything wrong and it's pretty clear that he's using physical size and the presence of his friends to bully her out of the bike. Even if they both had equal claim to the bike (say they both arrived at exactly the same second), I find his behavior more troubling because of the physicality and the fact that his friends surround her. She is pissy but not aggressive. He's friendly/laughing but his physical choices ARE aggressive, especially holding his hand over the QR reader.


I find her behavior to be very aggressive. She is yelling, and pushing her body against his to get him to move. She snatched his phone. She tries to cry in order to get sympathy from others. She’s hoping someone will come and fight these boys.

The entire time he remains calm, as does his friends.


Of course they’re calm. They outnumber her. They have no reason to get scared/violent.


I would be terrified if I was around this woman acting like she is, even in a group. Who knows what she is going to do next or if she is carrying a weapon. I commend them for handling a mentally unstable person well.


Clearly you haven’t been around many mentally ill/potentially violent people. She may be acting like a jerk but there is nothing about her behavior that screams mental illness.


Everything about her behavior screams mental illness and unstable. You must be writing from the Midwest or South.


Actually I work in a residential mental health facility. I am very familiar with different behaviors.


You don’t seem to be familiar if you think this woman is acting normal.


She is acting normal for someone who is having a bike taken out from under them. Her reaction is normal if you understand she was trying to rent the bike and the guy won't let her and then rents it instead.



That isn’t a normal reaction at all!
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