Maureen Dowd column on Landon

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Landon is naive it doesn't realize that the worst is yet t come. With stories in the NYT, WASHPOST and others, you are going to have follow up coverage. and that story is going to look at something broader, encapsulating the culture of the school, turning up stuff people didn't know about and allowing angry parents to vent. If I were the school, I would act now so that the story has to include themes about how the school has decided to change for the better and reclaim its very tarnished legacy.


This is what happens when any institution is put under a microscope. Someone asked in another related posting if there wasn't a similar scandal at a religious-affiliated girls' school a couple of years ago (won't mention the name as my daughter attended it and there seems there is already too much hate-mongering in these postings). Nobody answered the question. The answer, though, is yes there was--my daughter texted me from college and asked if I remembered the very similar scandal that happened at her school. If the girls were purveying themselves as sex objects as opposed to the boys doing the purveying-- I guess it is a little less objectionable, but the parents of the boys who were recipients in theory might have complained to the press. If there is a next time, one wonders if they will.
Anonymous
11:35 i think the person was being funny and it had nothing to do with you. Don't take every comment so seriously.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Landon is naive it doesn't realize that the worst is yet t come. With stories in the NYT, WASHPOST and others, you are going to have follow up coverage. and that story is going to look at something broader, encapsulating the culture of the school, turning up stuff people didn't know about and allowing angry parents to vent. If I were the school, I would act now so that the story has to include themes about how the school has decided to change for the better and reclaim its very tarnished legacy.


This is what happens when any institution is put under a microscope. Someone asked in another related posting if there wasn't a similar scandal at a religious-affiliated girls' school a couple of years ago (won't mention the name as my daughter attended it and there seems there is already too much hate-mongering in these postings). Nobody answered the question. The answer, though, is yes there was--my daughter texted me from college and asked if I remembered the very similar scandal that happened at her school. If the girls were purveying themselves as sex objects as opposed to the boys doing the purveying-- I guess it is a little less objectionable, but the parents of the boys who were recipients in theory might have complained to the press. If there is a next time, one wonders if they will.

Interesting post, 11:41. At least for me, what produced the viscerally negative reaction was not the boys ranking girls (unpleasant but sadly VERY common)-- it was the added elements of planning to invite the targets--presumably their 'friends'-- to a party and try to wrack up points from sexual encounters. Hopefully just boasting but very nasty and unpleasant all the same, as well as providing a blueprint for date rape had alcohol been a factor. "groupthink" is a dangerous phenomenon where sexual assaults are concerned. Again, most likely this was just fantasizing and would have never gone to the party stage, but it was a dark place to go and very upsetting for parents of girls or boys to imaine their own child being involved as planner or target.
Anonymous
11:48 Thank you for that. I, like many others, are reading these comments critically not for it's comedic quality nor salaciously. There are so many excellent comments, suggestions and ideas that have been brought up in this forum. I will try to remember not everyone posting in this forum are parenting young daughters and young sons. I will try to remember not everyone reading this is making painful financial sacrifices EVERYDAY in order to send their children to these schools. We are all coming from a different vantage point so, I would hope to see more of the universal Golden Rule applied to this forum and all local school administrations. Sorry -- venting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What in the world makes you think Landon doesn't have female administrators and board members? The board is half women, and the school is comprised of 42% women teachers.


3 out of 29 is half?



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you dont know what you are talking about. It's not even close to 3 out of 29. 57% of the administration is female and 2 out of 7 teachers are female


26 of the 29 use "Mr" before there names http://www.landon.net/page.cfm?p=327
Anonymous
You can explain it, but you can't make the Landon booster understand it...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You can explain it, but you can't make the Landon booster understand it...



No, they're just talking about two different things. The "booster" is talking about the numbers for the administration and the faculty. The PP is talking about the number of women on the board. Neither one of them is understanding what the other is talking about.
Anonymous
PP 12:19 you really need ot take a chill pill. The comment you referred to is Go Landon Go Bears. How you are getting your long tirade from that comment is hard to understand. How the comment, I don't let people with Landon stickers or UVA or Duke stickers merge into lanes is helpful or even real. People post comments to get rises out of people. It worked.
FYI - I have two DS and we have sacrificed for 10 years to send our kids to private schools. Old cars, few vacatiions, no decorating the house. So please don't presume to lecture me on how I look at things. Useful criticisms of valid postings are great but not this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can explain it, but you can't make the Landon booster understand it...



No, they're just talking about two different things. The "booster" is talking about the numbers for the administration and the faculty. The PP is talking about the number of women on the board. Neither one of them is understanding what the other is talking about.


Nice try, but no cigar.
Anonymous
so does in school suspension mean those boys missed sports that day? or did they miss class and still get to go to sports?
Anonymous
These boys haven't missed much, believe me. They likely missed sports for a couple of days. They probably had to write the honor code a few times. No, I'm not kidding. Was the punishment appropriate? Their demeanor and attitudes haven't changed one bit. Maybe being fodder for the NYT, Post , etc. will get their parents attention. They wouldn't want the embarrassment. Or the public outting.
Anonymous
The problem with Landon is not that they need to get their PR person on these issues, but that they need to start offering Ethics courses to their boys to address this sense of rampant entitlement.
Anonymous
Aren't ethics supposed to be taught at home? I'm glad that our school supports our values, but I certainly don't expect it to take the lead in teaching them. That's a job for PARENTS. My kids understand that there will be Hell to pay -- and we will NOT continue paying private school tuition -- if they screw up in the way these boys reportedly have, repeatedly.
Anonymous
Problem starts at home. But Landon's jock culture doesn't seem to help (all 5 of the boys were lax players, for example).

For what it's worth, STA also has a really unappealing lacrosse culture right now--into posing as slacker partying stoner "bros"--and not all that respectful of girls.
Anonymous
They do try. They established a prefect system a few years ago and the job of the prefects is to help inculcate a sense of honor. They review what the honor system is suppose to mean on a regular basis. They have speaker series on the topic of ethics named for the fine young Landon grad who died in a lacrosse accident at Cornell a few years ago--you all might remember reading about him and how his plans to teach at an Indian reservation were disrupted by his untimely death. Or maybe not--didn't fit the stereotype.
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