Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

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that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

No matter your politics, no one has an issue with this? The police taking stuff just to see if anything is there? Wow.

to do that you need a warrant. To get a warrant you have to show reasonable cause.

Warrants are very specific, you can not take everything "just in case"

Who said the FBI took anything not specified in the warrant?

Well if you read what you are replying to you'd notice

grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

note the words "to go through later". no search warrant would allow you to grab boxes without spelling out the contents

What are those words quoting?

The original CNN article

The original CNN article quoting a source close to Trump. Of course a source close to Trump is going to assess the situation that way. Doesn’t mean it’s true.
“A source familiar told Fox News that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

"They were not being judicious about what they took," the source told Fox News.”

#ReleaseTheWarrant

[Anonymous]

Omg people stop

Chris Wray and a judge appointed by Dt signed that warrant

We have laws. FACT.

There is no way they did this without cause..

Please explain why the party of law and order has an issue with law enforcement doing their job

The Republicans party is engaging in an active coup if you stand with them you are a Traitor full stop no excuses

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that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

No matter your politics, no one has an issue with this? The police taking stuff just to see if anything is there? Wow.

to do that you need a warrant. To get a warrant you have to show reasonable cause.

Warrants are very specific, you can not take everything "just in case"

Who said the FBI took anything not specified in the warrant?

Well if you read what you are replying to you'd notice

grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

note the words "to go through later". no search warrant would allow you to grab boxes without spelling out the contents

What are those words quoting?

The original CNN article

The original CNN article quoting a source close to Trump. Of course a source close to Trump is going to assess the situation that way. Doesn’t mean it’s true.
“A source familiar told Fox News that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

"They were not being judicious about what they took," the source told Fox News.”

#ReleaseTheWarrant

Lol

Was Trump being judicious about what classified documents he took to Mar A Lago? He had at least 15 boxes of classified documents. Maybe much more.

[Anonymous]

Do not f** with NARA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do not f** with NARA.

Seriously, they’re all still in a really bad move from having to tape tiny pieces of thrown-away paper together for four years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Hillary isn't in prison for conducting classified work over personal email run from her house, then why would trump get in trouble for accidently taking classified documents home? Did Hillary even get a slap on the wrist? Put it in perspective, I know everyone is waiting and foaming at the mouth to put trump away

Because she didn’t do that. It was an unclassified email system with her staff. Later a few items in emails sent to her were retroactively classified when the State Department reviewed the emails. Some of it was stupid, such as State saying the staff discussed classified information when they were talking about something that had been published in the NY Times.

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that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

No matter your politics, no one has an issue with this? The police taking stuff just to see if anything is there? Wow.

to do that you need a warrant. To get a warrant you have to show reasonable cause.

Warrants are very specific, you can not take everything "just in case"

Who said the FBI took anything not specified in the warrant?

Well if you read what you are replying to you'd notice

grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

note the words "to go through later". no search warrant would allow you to grab boxes without spelling out the contents

What are those words quoting?

The original CNN article

The original CNN article quoting a source close to Trump. Of course a source close to Trump is going to assess the situation that way. Doesn’t mean it’s true.
“A source familiar told Fox News that FBI agents went to Mar-a-Lago and looked in every single office, safe, and grabbed documents and boxes without going through them on the property. They took boxes and documents to go through them later.

"They were not being judicious about what they took," the source told Fox News.”

#ReleaseTheWarrant

Why did Trump take classified documents to his private residence after he was out of office?

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Anonymous wrote:Poor Garland, he is accused of not doing enough against Trump and also accused of not doing enough against Hunter. Now he makes a move against trump. What do people think is going to happen when republicans take over the house? I don’t think democrats are thinking this through. Plus now at mid terms, Trump is getting all this air time and now his base is getting all riled up. Poor poor chess move.

So you are saying the republicans in the house will use their power to attempt to interfere with a lawful investigation of a federal crime? And you think that’s a good thing?

No, I am saying that democrats should not throw stones when they live in a glass house because republicans can throw back. By opening up investigations against current sitting presidents.

Yawn. They would have done that any way. Not really a threat. And as Trumps administration established, congressional subpoenas are optional so garland can show up if he feels like it. Or not.

Republicans always throw stones back, even when there is nothing there. Look at the past 20 years. They threw the first stones with Newt and continue to do so. Doesn't matter what Democrats do or don't do, republicans will continue to investigate and throw stones and rhetoric.

I'm fine to top treating them with kid gloves, by nominating Trump Republicans indicated they are no longer the party of "morality" or "law and order" they pretend to be.

Democrats no longer have anything to lose, except democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:If Hillary isn't in prison for conducting classified work over personal email run from her house, then why would trump get in trouble for accidently taking classified documents home? Did Hillary even get a slap on the wrist? Put it in perspective, I know everyone is waiting and foaming at the mouth to put trump away

Because she didn’t do that. It was an unclassified email system with her staff. Later a few items in emails sent to her were retroactively classified when the State Department reviewed the emails. Some of it was stupid, such as State saying the staff discussed classified information when they were talking about something that had been published in the NY Times.

Dt didn’t accidentally do anything

You think Chris Wray signed that warrant without any cause you are not bright

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do not f** with NARA.

Seriously, they’re all still in a really bad move from having to tape tiny pieces of thrown-away paper together for four years.

And fishing those documents out of the toilet in the White House. I'd be in a bad mood too.

[Anonymous]

Does Trump not have a single sane adviser around him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg people stop

Chris Wray and a judge appointed by Dt signed that warrant

We have laws. FACT.

There is no way they did this without cause..

Please explain why the party of law and order has an issue with law enforcement doing their job

The Republicans party is engaging in an active coup if you stand with them you are a Traitor full stop no excuses

Because whatever the Russians got when they hacked the RNC servers is about to be fully exposed.

I, for one, believe that previous elections had actually been rigged.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

Oh so this is scary and not the attempt of a coup, the fake electors and all the new laws in some states to overturn the will of the people by legislators?

That’s not why the FBI searched his house. It was for alleged violations of the “Presidential Records Act.” Election disputes are common throughout our history, but a former president (let alone one who can run for another term) has NEVER been charged in our history. Do you doubt that the next republican would start charging democrats? Anyone can be charged with something. I wonder how many sitting democratic senators have ever violated federal records retention laws?

Do you understand that there needs to be clear evidence of crimes to get a federal search warrant on anyone, particularly a former President who’s constantly blathering about running again?

Yes, and do you understand that we have thousands of laws in this country and that prosecutors could find a violation to prosecute anyone they want? Literally anyone. Do you really think that the *reason* the FBI is going after him is solely because they are worried about the “Presidential Records Act”?

This is really, really dangerous stuff.

I must admit that I don’t understand what is dangerous about finding evidence of a crime, asking a judge for a warrant, and then executing the warrant. That happens multiple times a day, every day, in this country.

Ok. Do you understand history? Do you understand what happened to the Roman republic and what the actual causes of its fall were? How about the many other counties that have fallen into dictatorship after a cycle of political prosecutions?

DP. Biden isn't the one doing this. Do you realize that? Of course you do, but you aren't thinking about what that means.

Think about what that means.

Ironically it is trump appointed Christopher Wray who would be "blamed" for authorizing the raid. It also would require Garland and a Federal Judge.

Who’s the judge?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Trump not have a single sane adviser around him?

He had a bunch before he fired them. Don McGahan, Reince Priebus and John Kelly all warned Trump and his administration about violations of the PRA. This article is from February after the first reports of the 15 boxes, and goes into a lot of detail.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/trumps-presidential-records-act-violations-short-and-long-term-solutions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

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This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

Why are you so sure this raid is solely about the Presidential Records Act? That is the reason that has leaked publically, which is convenient for the Justice Dept because that investigation was already known. However, given the dangerous precedent you describe, it’s highly unlikely that Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept would execute a search warrant/ pursue an indictment solely based on the violation of the PRA. It’s possible there were multiple crimes cited on the warrant that haven’t leaked. It’s also possible that the content of the illegally taken documents implicates Trump on more serious charges. We will not know this until indictments come out. The Justice Dept hasn’t had any leaks before taking such dramatic action. They aren’t going to leak about other investigations and tip their hats.

Perhaps the “records retention act” violation was a pretext to grab all the documents they could find, to go on a fishing expedition to find other potential crimes to charge him with.

According to reports, the Archives was concerned about the nature and subject of missing documents that were so sensitiive that they could not be itemized in the warrant. This isn't a fishing expedition, that isn't how the warrants work. Stop watching Fox.

Really now?