NJ to teach gender lessons

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Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.


In any middle school today it’s about 20%.


The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.


Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.



So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.


Could be. Look at all of the xenoestrogens have we been pumping into the environment over the last 50+ years. My ovaries havd been marinating in plastic for decades.

Or it could just be people are open to exploring their identity more than a few decades ago.

What % of people were openly homosexual back in the 50-60s? None of the older gay people in my family came out until the 90s after they were pretending to be straight for half of their lives.

Sexuality - and gender - are evolving as they become more open and acceptable.
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Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.


In any middle school today it’s about 20%.


The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.


Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.



So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.


I totally agree.
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This is GREAT! It is wonderful that kids today feel comfortable enough to explore their gender and sexuality in supportive environments.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


The Florida bill is agnostic about what kind of sex can't be discussed with small children. Gay teachers cant discuss gay sex, straight teachers cant discuss straight sex. The whole point of the bill is to ban discussions of sex between teachers and k-5 students. Since it applies equally to all, it isnt discriminatory.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


In all my years of schooling, I never once heard a teacher reference their spouse or their children. It's kind of unprofessional to discuss family situations with students.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


The Florida bill is agnostic about what kind of sex can't be discussed with small children. Gay teachers cant discuss gay sex, straight teachers cant discuss straight sex. The whole point of the bill is to ban discussions of sex between teachers and k-5 students. Since it applies equally to all, it isnt discriminatory.


Gay and lesbian teachers are quitting because Florida is trying to force them back in the closet. They weren’t talking to students about sex. Fundie parents are targeting them because they are gay or lesbian. That’s the intent of the law.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


In all my years of schooling, I never once heard a teacher reference their spouse or their children. It's kind of unprofessional to discuss family situations with students.


Really? Most of my kids’ ES and even some MS teachers have done an intro at the beginning of the year with family info (even a photo), hobbies, fav sports teams, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


The Florida bill is agnostic about what kind of sex can't be discussed with small children. Gay teachers cant discuss gay sex, straight teachers cant discuss straight sex. The whole point of the bill is to ban discussions of sex between teachers and k-5 students. Since it applies equally to all, it isnt discriminatory.


No, it restricts discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools. Not just the physical sex.
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It's amazing how the right wing's focus keeps inorganically shifting from one complaint to the next. It was "Antifa, Antifa, Antifa" but now you don't hear anything about that anymore, it was "CRT" but now that's died off, it was organizing trucker convoys but now that's stopped, now it's transpeople and "groomers."

Forgive me if I don't take any of it seriously but I think this is all being manufactured.
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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how the right wing's focus keeps inorganically shifting from one complaint to the next. It was "Antifa, Antifa, Antifa" but now you don't hear anything about that anymore, it was "CRT" but now that's died off, it was organizing trucker convoys but now that's stopped, now it's transpeople and "groomers."

Forgive me if I don't take any of it seriously but I think this is all being manufactured.


They feed the mob a constant stream of topics for faux “outrage”.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


In all my years of schooling, I never once heard a teacher reference their spouse or their children. It's kind of unprofessional to discuss family situations with students.


Really? Most of my kids’ ES and even some MS teachers have done an intro at the beginning of the year with family info (even a photo), hobbies, fav sports teams, etc.


I don't see why a gay teacher in Florida would not be able to do something similar. The Florida law is specifically regarding instruction for grades K-3 on gender/sexuality. A teacher providing an intro at the beginning of the year with family photos is not instruction. Teaching a 6 year old a boy can sometimes have girls parts like the NJ lesson plan is prohibited. It's ridiculous to say this bill is discriminatory or forcing gay people back in the closet.
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Anonymous wrote:“I don’t live in New Jersey so this is none of my business”, say all Republicans who believe in states rights and a weak federal government.


100%. As a DC resident who “lives in Florida” for tax purposes, I could give two shits about what NJ does. I have nothing to do with that state nor do I want to (Princeton is lovely though).


And yet, oddly, people around here are very upset about what Texas does.


Texas is violating the Constitution and SCOTUS ruling. It’s a universal violation of human rights.

NJ is updating its public school curriculum. You want the federal government to mandate what all states teach?


Its not a universal violation if its confined fo Texas.

Also, Florida was updating its curricula and that caused massive protest. Disney is about to lose their tax exempt status because they decided they cant abide a situation where no one talks to K-5 kids about sex.


Exactly. The media purposely called it the "Don't Say Gay Bill" even though the word "gay" never appeared in the bill at all. What is happening in NJ with their current curriculum can't happen now in Florida because of the bill. A majority of parents do not want their young kids grades K-3 to receive instruction about gender and sexuality.


The Florida bill is discriminatory.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/17/florida-advances-dont-say-gay-bill#

a bill that would restrict discussions of sexual orientation and gender identity in schools.

The bill would ban discussing these issues in primary schools and restrict how they are discussed in other grades if they are deemed “not age-appropriate.” However, it does not specify what would be considered age-appropriate, or who decides. Any parent could sue their child’s school for compensation for alleged harm if they believe those discussions have occurred. The likely outcome of the bill would be to deter teachers from addressing these issues and to chill open discussions and support for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students.



Its not discriminatory. Heterosexuals and "cis" people cant talk about it either. I guess the kids will have to focus on math.


So a gay Kindergarten teacher can’t mention his husband? But the straight teachers can?



Of course that isn't what the post you are responding to said.



We are discussing the discriminatory FL bill.


In all my years of schooling, I never once heard a teacher reference their spouse or their children. It's kind of unprofessional to discuss family situations with students.


Really? Most of my kids’ ES and even some MS teachers have done an intro at the beginning of the year with family info (even a photo), hobbies, fav sports teams, etc.


I don't see why a gay teacher in Florida would not be able to do something similar. The Florida law is specifically regarding instruction for grades K-3 on gender/sexuality. A teacher providing an intro at the beginning of the year with family photos is not instruction. Teaching a 6 year old a boy can sometimes have girls parts like the NJ lesson plan is prohibited. It's ridiculous to say this bill is discriminatory or forcing gay people back in the closet.


Parents can report teachers for anything related to gender/sexuality. It’s a discriminatory, hostile environment for LGBTQ+.

And that’s not the NJ curriculum.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.


In any middle school today it’s about 20%.


The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.


Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.



So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.


All of this. Something is clearly wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.


In any middle school today it’s about 20%.


The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.


Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.



So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.


All of this. Something is clearly wrong.


What exactly is “wrong” with any of this?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Transgender people are only 0.06 % of the population.


In any middle school today it’s about 20%.


The bigots clearly don’t know any young kids today.


Perhaps you don't really know kids today and you should educate yourself more on the topic. The latest Gallup poll showed 20.8% of Gen Z identifies as LGBQT so basically 1 out of 5 kids. It is double the percentage of millennials (10.5%) and Gen X is only 4.2%.



So at the risk of poking the hornet nest, here I go anyway because someone needs to say it.

This isn't good. It is bad that so many young people are reporting this.

I am old enough to remember before.

In the old days gays and lesbians would say that they were otherwise normal men or women that for reasons they didn't understand and didn't choose, were attracted to their own sex. They wanted to be treated with the dignity and respect that any human deserved and allowed to live their lives pursuing love and happiness as they chose.

The initial wave of transpeople were a tiny slice of the population and whether for biological or psychological reasons they felt with absolute conviction that their gender did not match their actual biological sex. They also said that it was absolutely not a choice and was an immutable part of their being that could not be changed.

Now, in the space of a sliver of time in biological terms we have 1 in 5 young adults identifying as LGBTQ and 12% (1 in 8) identifying as something other than a man or a woman. (For comparison, 13-14% of the US population is black.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/survey-20-percent-millennials-identify-lgbtq-n740791

If this is biological, then something absolutely massive has changed in only the last few decades.


All of this. Something is clearly wrong.


+100 When the number of transgender individuals goes from a tiny fraction of one percent to 1 in 8 then there is definitely something going on. There are probably several factors involved but social media, social contagion especially among girls, increased isolation during covid etc all have played a role. There was a link in an earlier post about a transgender psychologist expressing her concerns over the explosion in the numbers of cases among teens. Jazz Jenning's surgeon came out not that long ago with similar concerns. You can tell they are in CYA mode because they can see the writing on the wall and know there will be an inevitable wave of lawsuits down the road.
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